Randall Moody on tue 12 jun 12
I have found that for photos Adobe Lightroom is the best. Although you have
more options with CS6 since Lightroom is the digital equivalent of a dark
room. LR also has the advantage of keeping the original intact throughout
the process. I usually remove any dust, scratches or artifacts in Photoshop
and then deal with exposure, color etc in Lightroom. If there is a
photography group in your area you may want to talk to them and get their
advice also.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Nancy Jonnum wrote:
> I am writing to ask a bit of advice. After fooling around with
> photography for several years, I have decided I want to learn
> Photoshop. I have the opportunity to work with our local art
> organization to obtain the software at a very reduced price. They
> offer Photoshop Elements 10 and Photoshop CS6 Extended ESD. Or maybe I
> should consider purchasing another Photoshop program on my own.
>
> My goal is mostly to improve the photos I take of my work and photos
> I take for other people. I may use Photoshop to improve my personal
> photos, but I don't plan on framing or selling my work. I don't plan
> to use audio or video.
>
> At this time I have iphoto. I am able to crop photos, to straighten
> them, and to adjust color and exposure. I can deal with red eye
> (though I don't like this and never use it). What I can't do is
> combine photos, to cut out objects and change color.
> I would really prefer to keep things simple. If Elements will allow me
> to manipulate photos and do some things that I cannot do with iphoto,
> perhaps that is the best choice for me.
>
> Any advice or words of wisdom that you can offer would be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Nancy
>
--
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com
Nancy Jonnum on tue 12 jun 12
I am writing to ask a bit of advice. After fooling around with
photography for several years, I have decided I want to learn
Photoshop. I have the opportunity to work with our local art
organization to obtain the software at a very reduced price. They
offer Photoshop Elements 10 and Photoshop CS6 Extended ESD. Or maybe I
should consider purchasing another Photoshop program on my own.
My goal is mostly to improve the photos I take of my work and photos
I take for other people. I may use Photoshop to improve my personal
photos, but I don't plan on framing or selling my work. I don't plan
to use audio or video.
At this time I have iphoto. I am able to crop photos, to straighten
them, and to adjust color and exposure. I can deal with red eye
(though I don't like this and never use it). What I can't do is
combine photos, to cut out objects and change color.
I would really prefer to keep things simple. If Elements will allow me
to manipulate photos and do some things that I cannot do with iphoto,
perhaps that is the best choice for me.
Any advice or words of wisdom that you can offer would be very much
appreciated.
Nancy
Lauge Brixvold on wed 13 jun 12
Spend your money on Lightroom, Photoshop is way over the top for normal
use.
I've been doing digital photography since 2006 and though I started out
using photoshop, these days I seldom bother opening it. Lightroom both
takes care of photo filemanagement and lets you make all the retouches you
would normally need. It lets you do everything effortlessly and pixel
perfect.
There is a free trial available.
There is also gimp http://www.gimp.org/, which has a lot of the features
of photoshop and no price tag.
If you do decide on ps, get the newest version of the book: Photoshop
Artistry by Barry Haynes & Wendy Crumpler, that will really help you bring
out all that ps can do.
If you go with lightroom I heartily recommend Luminous Landscapes video:
"Advanced Guide + New User's Introduction to Lightroom 4" to bring you up
to speed.
Cheers
Lauge Brixvold
http://brixvold.com
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:01:49 +0200, Nancy Jonnum
wrote:
> I am writing to ask a bit of advice. After fooling around with
> photography for several years, I have decided I want to learn
> Photoshop. I have the opportunity to work with our local art
> organization to obtain the software at a very reduced price. They
> offer Photoshop Elements 10 and Photoshop CS6 Extended ESD. Or maybe I
> should consider purchasing another Photoshop program on my own.
>
> My goal is mostly to improve the photos I take of my work and photos
> I take for other people. I may use Photoshop to improve my personal
> photos, but I don't plan on framing or selling my work. I don't plan
> to use audio or video.
>
> At this time I have iphoto. I am able to crop photos, to straighten
> them, and to adjust color and exposure. I can deal with red eye
> (though I don't like this and never use it). What I can't do is
> combine photos, to cut out objects and change color.
> I would really prefer to keep things simple. If Elements will allow me
> to manipulate photos and do some things that I cannot do with iphoto,
> perhaps that is the best choice for me.
>
> Any advice or words of wisdom that you can offer would be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Nancy
Carl Finch on thu 14 jun 12
At 11:01 AM 6/12/2012, Nancy Jonnum wrote:
>My goal is mostly to improve the photos I take of my work and photos
>I take for other people. I may use Photoshop to improve my personal
>photos, but I don't plan on framing or selling my work. I don't plan
>to use audio or video.
>
>At this time I have iphoto. I am able to crop photos, to straighten
>them, and to adjust color and exposure. I can deal with red eye
>(though I don't like this and never use it). What I can't do is
>combine photos, to cut out objects and change color.
>I would really prefer to keep things simple. If Elements will allow me
>to manipulate photos and do some things that I cannot do with iphoto,
>perhaps that is the best choice for me.
Your stated needs are well-within the capabilities of Adobe's
Photoshop Elements. And there are numerous tutorials available free
on the Internet. (For example, search "how can I do ... with
Photoshop Elements?")
Lightroom, suggested by Randy and Lauge, is becoming quite popular
with photographers, both professional and those like you and me, so
much so that Adobe cut its price for version 4 to one third of that
for version 3! It addresses photo adjustment (saturation, exposure,
sharpness, etc.) in terms more akin to camera usage, rather than to
images in general. But I don't believe Lightroom allows one to cut
and paste image objects as you want to do. (I've not used Lightroom,
so I may be wrong on this)
I suggest you look over this feature comparison for the "family"---
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopfamily/buying-guide-version-comparis=
on.html
--Carl Finch
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Randall Moody on fri 15 jun 12
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> Nancy Jonnum posted a question regarding Photoshop v Photoshop Elements
> on Tuesday June 12. First, by profession, I am a certifiable geek --
> advanced
> degrees in Computer Science / Engineering -- no art degress. Why mention
> that? because my frame of mind is not that of an artist, it is that of an
> engineer.
>
> My employer furnishes me with a for Photoshop I have a personal license f=
or
> Photoshop Elements -- these are installed on a work releated desktop and
> persoanl desktop respectively. However, after much frustration with both
> pieces of software I found the free, open source tool GIMP to be my go to
> tool for image editing. I use it to perform all the functions that Nancy
> listed,
> crop, straighten, adjustt color, combine photos, set transparent areas,
> trim
> out pieces for pasting into other photos (a nice auto outlining tool), et=
c.
>
> If you are shopping for a photo editing tool, I recommend it. Its
> powerful. It
> has good help and examples on-line.
>
> Robert
>
I would also add that there is an open source version of LightRoom called
DarkTable. I haven't loaded it unto my Ubuntu machine yet but will let
everyone know what my impressions are if I can get around to messing with
it.
--
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com
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