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bowls for a restaurant

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Rebecca Catteral on mon 23 jul 12


Hi all, I've been asked to work with a local restaurant to make some low=3D=
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bowls and plates. This is an advantage to the Foodie Craze and chefs want=
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to have their own look as well as taste. I usually use Laguna ^5 bmix wit=
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grog. Would you stay with this clay? Do you think I should go with a ^5=3D=
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porcelain to make the dishes more durable? And if so, any suggestions for=
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which porcelain?
Thanks,=3D20
Rebecca

Steve Mills on tue 24 jul 12


Hi Rebecca,
Making cold table and serving wares for small Hotels and Restaurants was wh=
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t I did for years here in the UK. I was working at cone 9 then with a mediu=
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grogged stoneware clay which didn't chip easily. If the clay you are using=
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s strong and reasonably chip resistant I would stay with it.=3D20
I would not recommend changing to porcelain. Stay with a clay you know well=
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changing just for an order can open a whole Pandora's box of problems.=3D2=
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I loved doing that sort of work, you can build a really creative relationsh=
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p with a good Chef that will stretch you both in the best possible way.=3D2=
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Steve M


Steve Mills
Bath
UK
www.mudslinger.me.uk
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On 24 Jul 2012, at 00:43, Rebecca Catteral wrote:

> Hi all, I've been asked to work with a local restaurant to make some low=
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> bowls and plates. This is an advantage to the Foodie Craze and chefs want=
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> to have their own look as well as taste. I usually use Laguna ^5 bmix wit=
h=3D
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> grog. Would you stay with this clay? Do you think I should go with a ^5=
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> porcelain to make the dishes more durable? And if so, any suggestions for=
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> which porcelain?
> Thanks,=3D20
> Rebecca

David Woof on wed 25 jul 12


Hi Rebecca=3D2C
I have always considered Laguna B-mix to be a "dirty porcelain" that is mor=
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e user friendly than porcelain to folks who don't work with porcelain enoug=
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h to get the experience necessary to get the most out of its unique tempera=
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ment=3D2C idiosyncrasies and character.
It is a travesty to see folks try to work in porcelain and produce work tha=
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t a appears as a bad unrefined=3D2C clunky imitation of stone ware forms.
So if B-mix has been your comfortable clay medium of choice=3D2C then by al=
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means stick with it for this commission. You will have enough to concern yo=
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urself with in production of food service forms and the technicalities of g=
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ood restaurant duty pottery.
Unless you have a solid experience in production of porcelain ware=3D2C exe=
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ting a new commission in a strange medium is just added weight toward frust=
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ration and possible failure in what could be a good experience financially =
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as well as career advancement.
Your reputation hangs on things like this.
Especially at cone 5 you will find the porcelains to be an added challenge =
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because of the added non-plastic fluxes needed to vitrify the body to tran=
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slucency that consequently are at odds with the plastic qualities you utili=
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ze for expression and control of form in the stoneware body.
Be sure to bevel and burnish trimmed feet. Take care to have generous round=
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ed rims and edges=3D2C taking note not to sponge off the surfaces so as to =
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pose the gritty grog=3D2C or create sharp edges and angles that are prone t=
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chip. Test and chose glazes that resist chipping=3D2C utensil marking and s=
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atches. (all things we should do anyway)
Your forms must be "utilitarian sturdy=3D2C" (but not clunky) and with good=
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alance in the hand when bearing the weight of food. The "art" of good utili=
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tarian craft must play a vital supporting role for the "art" of serving fin=
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e food.
When it is a collaborative effort between two equally passionate people=3D3=
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you and the Chef=3D2C great things happen.
Serving ware takes abuse even in the best of restaurant conditions. Every t=
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able busser gets distracted=3D2C disgusted=3D2C and doesn't always like his=
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job. Make sure you do your job so the problem doesn't come back to you.
Best wishes=3D2C
David Woof
***Putting in a shameless plug for Chef John (my son) who gets published in=
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the slick food magazines in Minneapolis.
John talks about food=3D2C heat and cooking chemistry with the same excited=
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assion that some of us talk about glaze chemistry=3D2C kilns and firing pro=
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sses.
Don't we just love it when we see the next generation light up.
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bowls for a restaurant=3D20
Posted by: "Rebecca Catteral" rebeccacatter@YAHOO.COM=3D20
Date: Mon Jul 23=3D2C 2012 6:30 pm ((PDT))=3D20
Hi all=3D2C I've been asked to work with a local restaurant to make some lo=
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bowls and plates. This is an advantage to the Foodie Craze and chefs wantin=
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g to have their own look as well as taste. I usually use Laguna ^5 bmix wit=
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h grog. Would you stay with this clay? Do you think I should go with a ^5 p=
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orcelain to make the dishes more durable? And if so=3D2C any suggestions fo=
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which porcelain?
Thanks=3D2C=3D20
Rebecca =3D

Rebecca Catteral on fri 27 jul 12


Thanks to everybody who responded here and directly to my email about=3D20
making dishes for a local restaurant. As usual, great advice.