revivalsteph@yahoo.com on fri 24 aug 12
I really believe that organizations who run art auctions need to change
their ways.
usually the artist is asked to not only contribute the item but also aske=
=3D
d
to pay for shipping TO the auctions and also pay for the RETURN of the it=
=3D
em
if it does not sell.
That is rubbish. Auctions need to update their approach and offer artists=
=3D
a
choice.=3D20
yes you MAY donate the item if you choose, otherwise 50% of the sales pri=
=3D
ce
will go to the artist.
Artists are typically very generous with their time and their work when i=
=3D
t
comes to raising money for organizations, but these auctions have become
stellar social and fundraising events, with no return or concern for t=
=3D
he
artists who create the work the patrons take home. usually the 'exposure'=
=3D
is
the tag on the item itself, and of course it is seen by the people who b=
=3D
id.
then it is taken home.
There was a gallery in Missoula that had a yearly fundraiser. the money w=
=3D
ent
to hunger projects in Montana I believe. it was a big event. the gallery
donated 50% of the selling price back to the artist. It was set up as a f=
=3D
ull
on gallery show, not a one night event , though the main auction was on
opening night. it encouraged the artist to bring in a better piece, it
brought in more money for all. I do not see why that cannot be a model to=
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work from.
Stephani Stephenson
KATHI LESUEUR on fri 24 aug 12
On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:47 PM, revivalsteph@yahoo.com wrote:
> I really believe that organizations who run art auctions need to =3D
change
> their ways.
> usually the artist is asked to not only contribute the item but also =3D
asked
> to pay for shipping TO the auctions and also pay for the RETURN of the =
=3D
item
> if it does not sell.
> That is rubbish. Auctions need to update their approach and offer =3D
artists a
> choice.=3D20
>=3D20
> yes you MAY donate the item if you choose, otherwise 50% of the sales =3D
price
> will go to the artist.>>
I get numerous requests for donations to art auctions. Always for a =3D
"good cause". Unfortunately, there are too many of these good causes to =3D
count. I get requests online from people and organizations I have no =3D
connection to and aren't even remotely connected to my community. The =3D
latest was from a priest in southern Ohio.=3D20
My advice, set a dollar amount you are willing to donate each year. Keep =
=3D
in mind that you can only deduct your materials (and you are already =3D
doing that). Make your priority local organizations that you are =3D
familiar with. Your church, social services, hospice are all good =3D
causes. Then, when someone comes asking, explain your criteria and turn =3D
them down if they don't meet it. If you think it's a good cause tell =3D
them you will donate one half of the value. You get paid the other half =3D
of the sale. Get it in writing or you will never get paid. Probably =3D
won't anyway, but if you want to donate getting it in writing will help.
We could all get rid of our whole years worth of production to good =3D
cause auctions and empty bowls held all over the country.=3D20
KATHI LESUEUR
http://www.lesueurclaywork.com
Eleanora Eden on fri 24 aug 12
When I am asked to donate I ask in return if it is possible to put a minimu=
m
bid on the item. If it is not, I don't contribute.
I am totally done with people slugging white wine and getting incredible de=
als
on work that the artist could otherwise sell.
Doesn't it also depress the art market for us? Why should somebody come
and buy at retail at a craft show if they can get free food and get stuff o=
n the cheap?
Just my 2c. If everybody would insist on minimum bids, the charities would=
get
more income and the artist would see it as more reasonable to contribute.
Elean ora
>I really believe that organizations who run art auctions need to change
>their ways.
>usually the artist is asked to not only contribute the item but also asked
>to pay for shipping TO the auctions and also pay for the RETURN of the ite=
m
>if it does not sell.
>That is rubbish. Auctions need to update their approach and offer artists =
a
>choice.
>
>yes you MAY donate the item if you choose, otherwise 50% of the sales pric=
e
>will go to the artist.
>
>Artists are typically very generous with their time and their work when it
>comes to raising money for organizations, but these auctions have become
>stellar social and fundraising events, with no return or concern for th=
e
>artists who create the work the patrons take home. usually the 'exposure' =
is
> the tag on the item itself, and of course it is seen by the people who bi=
d.
>then it is taken home.
>
>There was a gallery in Missoula that had a yearly fundraiser. the money we=
nt
>to hunger projects in Montana I believe. it was a big event. the gallery
>donated 50% of the selling price back to the artist. It was set up as a fu=
ll
>on gallery show, not a one night event , though the main auction was on
>opening night. it encouraged the artist to bring in a better piece, it
>brought in more money for all. I do not see why that cannot be a model to
>work from.
>
>
>
>Stephani Stephenson
--
Bellows Falls Vermont
www.eleanoraeden.com
Dannon Rhudy on fri 24 aug 12
You are dead-on right, Stephani. I've always found it
offensive that the museums and their big donors want the
artists who create the work to give it away. For the benefit
of institutions and people who are, for the most part, much
better off financially than those asked to give their work.
I donate to a number of causes, but I do it according to my
own ideas of what is worthwhile, and who will actually benefit.
AND according to my donation "budget".
And I never, ever, donate to "silent auctions". It is not in
my best interests to do so.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Stephani said:
I really believe that organizations who run art auctions need to change
their ways.
usually the artist is asked to not only contribute the item but also asked
to pay for shipping
Alice DeLisle on sat 25 aug 12
"I really believe that organizations who run art auctions need to change
their ways."
I do donate work to a couple of organizations that I support in general =3D
but - An artist I know always responds to requests for donations by =3D
suggesting that the organizations ask their wealthy donors to purchase =3D
art from the artists and then donate it for the fundraisers. That seems =3D
like a very reasonable approach to me.
Alice DeLisle
wanderland@att.net
http://www.etsy.com/shop/IslandTextures
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alice_delisle/
revivalsteph@yahoo.com on sat 25 aug 12
Great idea , Alice.=3D20
As we know, if someone purchases a work of art then donates it, they may
deduct the full amount of their purchase price from their taxes .=3D20
On the other hand ,if an artists donates a work of art made by them, they=
=3D
may only deduct the value of the materials.
Alice wrote: "I know always responds to requests for donations by suggest=
=3D
ing
that the organizations ask their wealthy donors to purchase art from the
artists and then donate it for the fundraisers. That seems like a very
reasonable approach to me."
Stephani Stephenson
James Freeman on sat 25 aug 12
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alice DeLisle wrote:
An artist I know always responds to requests for donations by suggesting
that the organizations ask their wealthy donors to purchase art from the
artists and then donate it for the fundraisers. That seems like a very
reasonable approach to me.
I used to donate work all the time, good pieces, but was cured of that bug
after a couple of ugly experiences. The first was when I donated a
beautiful jewelry box to our local art organization for their "box show"
fundraiser. The retail price on the box would have been in the $300
range. The hinges alone cost me $50, and it had about $40 worth of exotic
and semi-exotic hardwoods in it. It sold for only $100, which was sadly
the highest price of anything in the entire auction. Cheapskates. I was
sick about it.
After that, I donated one of my twig chairs to a Relay for Life auction. I
would not have sold that chair for less than $400. The hammer was about to
fall at $125 when my wife stepped in and bought it back for $150. I could
have just written them a check and saved myself a lot of trouble. The
final straw was at the next year's box auction. I made a chest-on-stand
consisting of a velvet-lined cherry box on a fitted twig stand. We bought
that one back too, jumping the high bid of $200 by $50. The chest was
worth at least $500.
After that, I was pretty much done with fundraisers that were "public"
events. Those people were looking for a bargain. About the only exception
I continued to make was to donate to the annual auction put on by a gallery
in Saline to benefit an Ann Arbor food bank. They only accept small items,
and the gallery eats all the costs. Folks who attend are very generous (my
pots almost always sell for about double my retail price!), the affair is a
lot of fun, and the folks running the gallery are great people. The
gallery is filled with donated art, and my wife and I have purchased
several really good pieces there.
Last year I took a big chance on a first year fundraiser for a local
service sorority and a local community foundation because friends of ours
were organizing it. It was a black tie affair, wonderful food (steak and
lobster), excellent wine, a classic rock band, a live auction, and 100% of
the proceeds went to charity. All of the costs were covered by donors.
Some friends of ours covered the cost of all of the food for the affair,
and another couple provided all the wine. Other couples acted as sponsors
of the art for the auction, covering the cost of materials for the
sponsored artist. They also gave each artist two tickets to the dinner.
My wife sent them a check for our tickets, not wanting to be parasites, but
they sent it back and refused our payment. The artists were their "honored
guests". I have never met such generous people. The auction was
incredibly lively and competitive. These folks were not looking for
bargains. It was a good natured fight to the finish! My sculpture, which
I had priced at $2000, sold for 50% more than that. Almost every item
there sold for far above the stated value. Even the bad pieces received
generous face-saving sympathy bids. I will definitely be donating again
this year.
Just my mixed experience.
...James
James Freeman
"Talk sense to a fool, and he calls you foolish."
-Euripides
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
Paul Lewing on sat 25 aug 12
On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:42 AM, revivalsteph@yahoo.com wrote:
Alice wrote: "I know always responds to requests for donations by
suggesting
that the organizations ask their wealthy donors to purchase art from the
artists and then donate it for the fundraisers. That seems like a very
reasonable approach to me."
Always seemed reasonable to me. I've suggested it many times to the
people who ask for donations. So far, never had one do it.
Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com
www.paullewingart.com
Jeff Brown on sat 25 aug 12
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:11:11 -0400, Alice DeLisle =3D20=
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wrote:
>I do donate work to a couple of organizations that I support in general =
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but -=3D20
An artist I know always responds to requests for donations by suggesting =
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that=3D20
the organizations ask their wealthy donors to purchase art from the artis=
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ts and=3D20
then donate it for the fundraisers. That seems like a very reasonable app=
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roach=3D20
to me.
>
>Alice DeLisle
A rare few organizations are actually paying the artist wholesale for the=
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ir work.=3D20
(we do offer extra work at not cost to the org.) I guess the idea is our =
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artwork=3D20
attracts supporters that pay $50 plus to attend the fund raisers....as we=
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ll as=3D20
money raised by the sale of the artwork.=3D20
It does trouble me when our work sells for less than the retail value. Su=
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pporters=3D20
should be offering more than retail, for it to be a real donation to the =
=3D
cause.=3D20
And I don't mind "giving" pottery to good causes that raise the market va=
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lue for=3D20
the work.
I am proud to contribute to the select organization we support. These are=
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=3D20
organizations that show real appreciation for our contributions...on some=
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=3D20
occasions the true supporters do bid higher that the listed value of the=3D=
20=3D
work...but it would be nice if the "patrons" could bid over the "value" =
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as a=3D20
rule...
Jeff=3D20
"in the Heart on NC"
www.jeffbrownpottery.com
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