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updated tue 28 aug 12

 

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 26 aug 12


Hi Mel, all,



Well...far as that one goes...it would seem so!!


Lol...


I know I have now and then seen what seemed to be older formal Japanese Cup=
s
and Bowls, where, I could not tell if they were Thrown and Trimmed, or, Sli=
p
Cast, Made by 'automation', or what.

Some of these were so lovely and 'perfect', I did not mind not knowing, eve=
n
as they could have been, any of the above methods.

I do not see why there need be any obligatory association with 'Machine
Made' and, being mediocre design or 'lifeless' or dull.

Or that 'Machine Made' would have to connote or denote 'Lifeless, mediocre
or worse'.

Mediocre, lifeless and dull Work is possible by any method, and all methods
succed to produce it according to the Lights of those overseeing or managin=
e
the decisions of what to make, and, of the process.



An automated process can be used to make whatever quality of form, and to
ensure an appealing weight for size and shape, etc, as one may have in mind
for it TO do.


Failures to succeed with offering 'Good' design, via 'Machine made' process=
,
seems to me, to be a failure to offer good design, and, the process is
incidental.


I have seen endless examples of 'Hand Made' Pottery which were dull,
lifeless, absurdly 'heavy' for their size and shape, of poor, confused, or
even bad form, indifferent or worse Glazes, etc.


Why do we not associate 'Hand Made' with it's endless examples of bad,
indifferent, lifeless, mediocre or worse offerings?


I am always interested in shape form texture and presence, and, in how
something works as-a-whole...with this of course I am always interested in
how something is made...but always, first and foremost, I am interested in
the thing itself independent of that, and, in how it stands and 'works' in
various ways or dimensions, as itself.


If it was made 'By Hand' or by some process in which Machinery is used, or
is made by automation, is a seperate issue as far as my own Lights are
concerned.


Of course, for many things, making the object in the so to speak 'Old' Ways=
,
or with only the basic mediacy of Machines needed, if needed, allows one TO
make things which are not practical under the circumstances to establish
assembly lines for, or to extablish semi-automated processes for, or to
establish fully automated methods and processes for ( or the item is not a
candidate for the kind of volume which may justify the arranging of a full
scale Manufacturing condition or Automated Methods ) for.


Making things in what tends to be the Old Ways, and or by what might be
called 'By Hand' even with mediating Machinery, is what I call 'Light
Cavalry'.



Love,

Phil
L v


----- Original Message -----
From: "mel jacobson"

> phil, i just saw a film of the `fiesta` factory in ohio.
> the entire process is machine done.
> i don't think a human touches the clay.
> auto jigger, flipped, fired, and sprayed glaze from
> a robot.
> then right into the kiln. long tunnel, and out the other end
> into a box. all the bright colors. a new one each year.
> purple i think last year.
>
> i think we might call that machine made.
> totally.
> just a thought.
> mel
> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
> clayart page below:
> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
> http://www.21stcenturykilns.com/

mel jacobson on sun 26 aug 12


phil, i just saw a film of the `fiesta` factory in ohio.
the entire process is machine done.
i don't think a human touches the clay.
auto jigger, flipped, fired, and sprayed glaze from
a robot.
then right into the kiln. long tunnel, and out the other end
into a box. all the bright colors. a new one each year.
purple i think last year.

i think we might call that machine made.
totally.
just a thought.
mel
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart page below:
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
http://www.21stcenturykilns.com/