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serious perfection question

updated tue 28 aug 12

 

mel jacobson on mon 27 aug 12


i wonder, just wonder how many rejects came from the
famous ming kilns? they made pots by the thousands and
fired them in wood fired kilns. all sagger fired. kilns 150 meters
long. many as long as two football fields.
no crusty wood crap on them.

what was the loss rate to get the hundreds of perfect
ming collectable pots? i bet it was staggering.

the pot shards of the early sung/hare's fur pots are
as big as mountains. really.
there are a half million pots in one pile. joe koons sent me
videos and photos of just a few piles...and the trees had
grown over them and they looked like ski hills.
all rejects.

and, that was from just one of many kiln sites.

and, what was the loss rate of the jin/da/jin potters years back.
white porcelain....think of one big pin hole. reject.
or/refire. the ones you see in the temples and castles are perfect.
just think of the sculptures alone of warriors and horses.
we only see the perfect ones. it must have been masses of loss.
just storms alone must have caused huge waste in those hill kilns.

it was not easy...for sure we know that.
think of the losses in a computer controlled kiln. i look at my
own shard piles. huge.

perfection is a strange thing.
ellen hit the nail on the head. baby geese...what a great metaphor.
mel
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart page below:
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
http://www.21stcenturykilns.com/

Robert Harris on mon 27 aug 12


I think this is an excellent point. I know i have mentioned br. Thomas
Bezanson on here before - and I remember Lee mentioning he had met him. He
was known for his "perfect" classical shapes and amazing glazes.

From what I have read he would regularly get together all of the work made
over the previous year or so, and destroy 80% of it. Only the very best
stuff went out of the door. (Perhaps Lee knows how true this is.)

Robert

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM, mel jacobson wrote:

> i wonder, just wonder how many rejects came from the
> famous ming kilns? they made pots by the thousands and
> fired them in wood fired kilns. all sagger fired. kilns 150 meters
> long. many as long as two football fields.
> no crusty wood crap on them.
>
> what was the loss rate to get the hundreds of perfect
> ming collectable pots? i bet it was staggering.
>
> the pot shards of the early sung/hare's fur pots are
> as big as mountains. really.
> there are a half million pots in one pile. joe koons sent me
> videos and photos of just a few piles...and the trees had
> grown over them and they looked like ski hills.
> all rejects.
>
> and, that was from just one of many kiln sites.
>
> and, what was the loss rate of the jin/da/jin potters years back.
> white porcelain....think of one big pin hole. reject.
> or/refire. the ones you see in the temples and castles are perfect.
> just think of the sculptures alone of warriors and horses.
> we only see the perfect ones. it must have been masses of loss.
> just storms alone must have caused huge waste in those hill kilns.
>
> it was not easy...for sure we know that.
> think of the losses in a computer controlled kiln. i look at my
> own shard piles. huge.
>
> perfection is a strange thing.
> ellen hit the nail on the head. baby geese...what a great metaphor.
> mel
> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
> clayart page below:
> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/**clayart.htmlclayart.html>
> >
> http://www.**21stcenturykilns.com/
>



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