Ben Morrison on mon 27 aug 12
I don't like to handle my pots at the bone dry stage. The hard leather hard=
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stage works well for cutting/shaping.=3D0A=3D0A-Ben=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A________=
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______________=3D0A From: mel jacobson =3D0ATo: Clayart@=
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CERAMICS.ORG =3D0ASent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:41 AM=3D0ASubject: shavin=
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=3D0Ai have some great pix of the porcelain potters in china shaving=3D0Av=
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dry/not leather pots.=3DA0 the blades on the knives are like=3DA0 ten inche=
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long, and sharp as razors..many shapes.=3D0Ait is fascinating=3D0Ait was pa=
rt o=3D
f the tradition because the clay was really not clay,=3D0Ait was glaze.=3DA=
0 it=3D
threw very poorly.=3DA0 porcelain is a challenge anyway,=3D0Athink of it a=
s mo=3D
stly silica and feldspar with about a drop of china clay.=3D0Athe shaving w=
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necessary.=3DA0 it was part of the process.=3D0Athe difference between cla=
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d glaze was very thin.=3D0Amany scholars are coming to grips with this fine=
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ine....=3D0A(and, i am not an expert in chinese ming pots..just my observat=
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ns.=3D0Aand some reading i have done.)=3D0A=3D0Ai know that there are some =
great =3D
chinese throwing bodies in=3D0Aporcelain, but shaving was critical to the f=
or=3D
m and style=3D0Aof what they wanted.=3D0A=3D0Athese were not pots for the f=
olks, =3D
these are large commercial forms=3D0Athat adorned the wealthy homes and roy=
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mansions, and of course=3D0Atemples.=3DA0 this technique has gone on for c=
entu=3D
ries.=3DA0 and, it was and is=3D0Aexpensive...very.=3D0A=3D0Ai guess my com=
ments ar=3D
e about short term history of europe and america=3D0Aesp since the re/birth=
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f ceramics from about 1949 on.=3DA0 i was not clear.=3D0Ahistory is a long =
time=3D
.=3DA0 but, folks have been using their hands in clay=3D0Asince the dawn of=
his=3D
tory.=3DA0 just hands and a stick.=3D0Ahttp://www.visi.com/~melpots/=3D0Acl=
ayart =3D
page below:=3D0Ahttp://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html=3D0A1stc=3D
enturykilns.com/>http://www.21stcenturykilns.com/
mel jacobson on mon 27 aug 12
i have some great pix of the porcelain potters in china shaving
very dry/not leather pots. the blades on the knives are like ten inches
long, and sharp as razors..many shapes.
it is fascinating
it was part of the tradition because the clay was really not clay,
it was glaze. it threw very poorly. porcelain is a challenge anyway,
think of it as mostly silica and feldspar with about a drop of china clay.
the shaving was necessary. it was part of the process.
the difference between clay and glaze was very thin.
many scholars are coming to grips with this fine line....
(and, i am not an expert in chinese ming pots..just my observations.
and some reading i have done.)
i know that there are some great chinese throwing bodies in
porcelain, but shaving was critical to the form and style
of what they wanted.
these were not pots for the folks, these are large commercial forms
that adorned the wealthy homes and royal mansions, and of course
temples. this technique has gone on for centuries. and, it was and is
expensive...very.
i guess my comments are about short term history of europe and america
esp since the re/birth of ceramics from about 1949 on. i was not clear.
history is a long time. but, folks have been using their hands in clay
since the dawn of history. just hands and a stick.
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart page below:
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
http://www.21stcenturykilns.com/
June Perry on mon 27 aug 12
Mel,
I saw the same process in Japan -trimming bone dry porcelain. The worker wa=
sn't even wearing a mask which made me wonder about the condition of his lu=
ngs.
Warmest regards,
June
http://www.shambhalapottery.com
http://www.shambhalapottery.blogspot.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sodasaltfiring/
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i have some great pix of the porcelain potters in china shaving
very dry/not leather pots. the blades on the knives are like ten inches
long, and sharp as razors..many shapes.
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