Debby Grant on fri 13 feb 98
Has anyone out there used an electronic spray gun, the kind that
does not need a compressor, for spraying glazes? I rarely spray but
every now and then I make a pot that is too big for dipping and
pouring. I do have an old compressor but but it is a pain to use
and I am contemplating investing in one of those electronic guns.
I would appreciate your input.
Debby Grant in NH
Al Pfeiffer on sat 14 feb 98
Electronic spray guns? I've heard of electrostatic spray equipment where the
piece is charged with a high negative voltage, the gun is grounded, and a
powder type material literally floats from the end of the gun and is attracted
to the charged surface. This would not work well on a clay surface with
little conductivity I don't believe though. If there is something else I sure
would be interested in hearing as well. Al Pfeiffer
Michelle McCurdy on sun 15 feb 98
Yes I have used an"electric spray gun". It was one I ordered from Northern
Hydraulics catalogue. it worked OK. I like the compressor better. The
electric one is kind of heavy to hold if youre glazing for a while. But it did
work.
Mark Charles on fri 20 feb 98
Debby- You could consider buying a compressed air holding tank & a
ceramic glaze airbrush (Badger makes a good one), it would at least be
quieter. I just can't see how an electric sprayer would work that good.
Eric Ciup on tue 24 feb 98
You wrote:
I saw your post to Clayart on the topic of spraying glazes and was
wondering if you could give me some more information on the glaze
spraying
attachment for a vacuum.
1.Do you know if these are currently for sale new and if so where can
they
be found ?
2. Could you describe what the spray attachment looks like.
3. Is this an item made specifically for a vacuum ?
Reply:
I have only come across these sprayers with old filter queen or
elctrolux vacuum cleaners. Today I went to my local Filter Queen outlet
{we have everything here in the burbs where I live) and the salesman
told me that they are no longer made. However they do have lots of old
ones because when they sell a new cleaner they will take back your old
set for a discount. They use these for parts and as there is little call
for the sprayer I was offered one for 20 dollars canaidian. These
sprayers hook up to the discharge side of the vacuum on the hose. Most
vacuum cleaners with a discharge hole as opposed to a discharge grill
are made to fit the hose at either end. I have hooked up my sprayer to
a cannister vacuum, a central vacuum, and a shop vac with equal success.
You could probably hook it up to a leaf blower if you could stand the
noise.
The reason I use this sprayer is that it is a cheap set up if bought
used, but if you had to buy the whole set new it would set you back more
than a small HVLP sprayer. Filter Queens are VERY expensive.
Eric Ciup
Montreal
DEBBYGrant on sun 1 mar 98
Dear Clay Arters,
I want to thank all of you who answered my original post asking
about an electronic spray gun. I took your advice and did not
buy one but I did break out my old Kirby vacuum cleaner,
cleaned it up and attached the spray equipment. I tried it today
and I want to tell you that it perfectly suited my needs for covering
large areas. It worked like a charm. So all you doubting Thomases
out there, if you have one, try it, you'll like it. My ancient compressor
needs some serious overhauling and now I don't have to worry
about it.
Thanks, Debby Grant in NH
Pat Yoder on fri 20 aug 99
I am interested in purchasing an inexpensive yet efficient glaze sprayer.
Does anyone have a recommendation? $50 - 100 range maybe.
Thanks
Pat
George Koller on sat 21 aug 99
Pat,
This has been covered fairly recently.... I think there is a consensus that the
Harbor Freight (1-800-423-2567) Top loading Central Pneumatic (Chinese) $39
(on sale now!) unit is a stand out buy. Well made, light, stands up better
than some much more expensive units. My only additional thought is that if
you do a lot of spraying you may want to buy two of these and use one for light
and one for dark to keep cleaning "casual" (even a speck of dark can
contaminate light).
((And as repair kits are more than this you might decide to keep one for wear
parts while on sale - but only $59.00 off sale & not impossible that there is
some model difference)). The part number is 38308-orbh. No assoc. with
these folks.
Also you may find the Gilmore sandblaster a good compliment for some types of
work - see archives?
Best,
George Koller
Sturgeon Bay, WI - Door County
Pat Yoder wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am interested in purchasing an inexpensive yet efficient glaze sprayer.
> Does anyone have a recommendation? $50 - 100 range maybe.
> Thanks
> Pat
jake jacobson on sat 21 aug 99
Pat Yoder wrote:
> Original message
> I am interested in purchasing an inexpensive yet efficient glaze sprayer.
> Does anyone have a recommendation? $50 - 100 range maybe.
> Thanks
> Pat
Pat:
As a general purpose glaze spray gun I recommend the Maple Leaf spray gun or
similar type due to it's simplicity (a siphon feed) and cost of under $50.00.
In my opinion if you want the best siphon feed (most simple and easy to clean
with the best spray pattern) find an old WOLD AIR GUN.
WOLD AIR GUNS and AIR BRUSHES were manufactured in Chicago, Illinois until
the late 70's by the WOLD AIR BRUSH COMPANY. They were constructed of all
brass and chrome plated for durability. The
"X8" for larger works and spray patterns and the "CF" for finer detail work.
These guns were produced for the detail painting on machinery and equipment by
various companies before the popularity of the decal.
In the late 70's the company was sold to a New Zealand firm and I have been
unable to track their existence or their continued manufacturing of the
airbrush/gun.
If any of you New Zealand potters are aware of a manufacturer producing a High
Quality "detail" SPRAY GUN with an all brass chrome plated body and siphon
feed I/we would appreciate hearing from you . These are beautiful guns to use
and easy to maintain .
Jake
Dave Finkelnburg on sat 21 aug 99
Pat,
You need to consider the capacity of your compressor, and how much
spraying you plan to do to answer your question.
The Paasch Model 62 sprayer lists for about $50 (Laguna, among others,
has them). You can used recycled plastic bottles for glaze containers. It
handles relatively coarse material well and is very simple to clean up.
This sprayer is OK if you don't plan to do an awful lot of spraying, is a
good starter unit.
There are a lot of HVLP models out there (see the archives regarding a
sale on these from Harbor Freight), which require more compressor capacity,
but generate less overspray. They also take more time to clean up, and the
glaze needs to be more carefully screened. This is relatively new
technology, basically a paint spray gun you can use for glaze. Check the
compressed air requirement of one of these and make sure your compressor
will handle it before you buy the gun!
Hope this is helpful.
Dave Finkelnburg
dfinkeln@cyberhighway.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Yoder
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 12:50 PM
Subject: Spray Gun
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am interested in purchasing an inexpensive yet efficient glaze sprayer.
>Does anyone have a recommendation? $50 - 100 range maybe.
>Thanks
>Pat
>
Charlie and Linda on sun 22 aug 99
I use a Paashe airbrush with a # 3 or 5 tip to spray terra sig or
oxides.
For spraying glazes I'm having great results with the Bailey 1 qt.
siphon sprayer (under $50). The Bailey sprayer doesn't wear out the tip
like the airbrush or other sprayers like the Little Critter (the Critter
was a great little spray gun before the tip was eroded).
Good luck
Charlie
John Fulwood on wed 7 nov 07
Hi james,
I have been using the bailey spray gun for over 10 years and it works great for me.
john fulwood
-----Original Message-----
>From: James Myers
>Sent: Nov 7, 2007 9:47 AM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Spray Gun
>
>Hi Clay Folks,
>
>I was wondering if any of you out there regularly use a spray gun. I
>want to get some advice on choosing the right one. I am using the the
>gun to glaze really large platters. Currently I have a cheep almost
>unusable spray gun and I can't get the consistency I want by pouring.
>
>Thanks
>--James Mitschmyer
>
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One 8th St. #11
Frenchtown, NJ. 08825
http://www.kissimmeeriverpottery.com
James Myers on wed 7 nov 07
Hi Clay Folks,
I was wondering if any of you out there regularly use a spray gun. I
want to get some advice on choosing the right one. I am using the the
gun to glaze really large platters. Currently I have a cheep almost
unusable spray gun and I can't get the consistency I want by pouring.
Thanks
--James Mitschmyer
Fred Parker on thu 8 nov 07
James:
I no longer have a place to install my Devilbiss 2-stage commercial air
compressor so I sprung ninety bucks for a Harbor Freight self-contained
HVLP unit. It has the compressor, gun, hose -- everything needed -- all
in one easy-to-carry package. Changing glazes is no more than a couple of
squirts to the gun with the garden hose. I love it! Write me back if you
need model number, etc.
Fred Parker
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:47:52 -0500, James Myers
wrote:
>Hi Clay Folks,
>
>I was wondering if any of you out there regularly use a spray gun. I
>want to get some advice on choosing the right one. I am using the the
>gun to glaze really large platters. Currently I have a cheep almost
>unusable spray gun and I can't get the consistency I want by pouring.
>
>Thanks
>--James Mitschmyer
>
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Fred Parker on tue 13 nov 07
One more belated comment about selecting a spray gun:
If you do not opt for the self-contained HVLP types, as from Harbor
Freight, you will have to have an air compressor. Be careful to match the
compressor and the gun. Both will have a "cfm" specification. FOr the
gun, it means how much air is needed to make the gun work properly. For
the compressor, it means how much the compressor can deliver at a given
pressure. Typically, for smaller compressors the number will be provided
in two forms: air delivery at 40 psi and air delivery at 125 psi. Look at
the 40 psi number. It should be MORE than your gun needs. For example,
if your gun needs 10 cfm and operates at 35 psi, it would be unwise to buy
a small compressor that can only deliver 3 cfm@40psi. You would need one
that can supply at least 10 cfm @ 40 psi. Avoid the little nailgun
compressors. They are designed to supply intermittent bursts of air to a
nail gun -- not the continuous, uninterrupted flow of air a spray gun
needs.
Fred Parker
Rosanne Sloane on tue 13 nov 07
Hello James,
I waited a long time to get the right spray gun. I don't have much money to spend with two teenage kids and being a potter by night.
I asked around for years and listened to what other potter friends have and I found that the Critter Spray gun is great for the money.
Besides working well, my other favorite thing about it is, I can use any (16 oz) mason jar to store my glazes in and then quickly attach them to the sprayer when I am ready to glaze. I did buy mine at www.axner.com, the new Laguna:
http://www.axner.com/axner/equipment/critter-siphon-spraygun.php
I did recently see that Big Ceramic Store does carry it cheaper:
http://www.bigceramicstore.com/Supplies/sprayguns.htm
Extruder girl
----- Original Message ----
From: James Myers
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 9:47:52 AM
Subject: Spray Gun
Hi Clay Folks,
I was wondering if any of you out there regularly use a spray gun. I
want to get some advice on choosing the right one. I am using the the
gun to glaze really large platters. Currently I have a cheep almost
unusable spray gun and I can't get the consistency I want by pouring.
Thanks
--James Mitschmyer
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Warren on wed 12 dec 07
It's even cheaper @ amazon and it ships free:
http://www.amazon.com/Critter-Spray-Products-22032-Siphon/dp/B00006FRPJ
On Nov 12, 2007 7:28 PM, Rosanne Sloane wrote:
> Hello James,
>
> I waited a long time to get the right spray gun. I don't have much money
> to spend with two teenage kids and being a potter by night.
>
> I asked around for years and listened to what other potter friends have
> and I found that the Critter Spray gun is great for the money.
>
> Besides working well, my other favorite thing about it is, I can use any
> (16 oz) mason jar to store my glazes in and then quickly attach them to the
> sprayer when I am ready to glaze. I did buy mine at www.axner.com, the new
> Laguna:
>
> http://www.axner.com/axner/equipment/critter-siphon-spraygun.php
>
> I did recently see that Big Ceramic Store does carry it cheaper:
>
> http://www.bigceramicstore.com/Supplies/sprayguns.htm
>
> Extruder girl
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: James Myers
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 9:47:52 AM
> Subject: Spray Gun
>
> Hi Clay Folks,
>
> I was wondering if any of you out there regularly use a spray gun. I
> want to get some advice on choosing the right one. I am using the the
> gun to glaze really large platters. Currently I have a cheep almost
> unusable spray gun and I can't get the consistency I want by pouring.
>
> Thanks
> --James Mitschmyer
>
>
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Warren
Rod on wed 12 dec 07
For the money you are better off purchasing the HVLP sprayer from Harbour
Freight or Geil has a fairly decent one as well.
I used a Critter for many years, matter of fact it's sitting on my shelf
still unused. As far as I know the Geil HVLP, etc. is the same price as a
Critter and believe me and others will chime in as well I'm sure - HVLP is
defiantly the way to go.
Cheers,
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:51 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Spray Gun
It's even cheaper @ amazon and it ships free:
http://www.amazon.com/Critter-Spray-Products-22032-Siphon/dp/B00006FRPJ
On Nov 12, 2007 7:28 PM, Rosanne Sloane wrote:
> Hello James,
>
> I waited a long time to get the right spray gun. I don't have much money
> to spend with two teenage kids and being a potter by night.
>
> I asked around for years and listened to what other potter friends have
> and I found that the Critter Spray gun is great for the money.
>
> Besides working well, my other favorite thing about it is, I can use any
> (16 oz) mason jar to store my glazes in and then quickly attach them to
the
> sprayer when I am ready to glaze. I did buy mine at www.axner.com, the new
> Laguna:
>
> http://www.axner.com/axner/equipment/critter-siphon-spraygun.php
>
> I did recently see that Big Ceramic Store does carry it cheaper:
>
> http://www.bigceramicstore.com/Supplies/sprayguns.htm
>
> Extruder girl
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: James Myers
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 9:47:52 AM
> Subject: Spray Gun
>
> Hi Clay Folks,
>
> I was wondering if any of you out there regularly use a spray gun. I
> want to get some advice on choosing the right one. I am using the the
> gun to glaze really large platters. Currently I have a cheep almost
> unusable spray gun and I can't get the consistency I want by pouring.
>
> Thanks
> --James Mitschmyer
>
>
>
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