Joseph Herbert on tue 17 feb 98
I have a Pacifica wheel, the larger size, with which I am well satisfied,
except for the following proviso: Why should you ever apply a LUBRICANT to a
FRICTION drive? When I first got the wheel (it came assembled) things were
fine for a few weeks until this noise started to emanate from the dark regions
below the deck. The instructions indicated that a silicone spray should be
applied to the belts and all would be well. The shipment of the wheel had
included a can of spray so I loosened a bolt and gave the belts a spritz.
Quiet reigned. However, I noticed the wheel was much easier to slow under the
pressure of throwing. I could even cause a near halt in rotation. Alas!
I read the instructions on the spray can for cleaning off the material and
decided to see if time and inaction would help the problem. I kept my hands
wetter and used less brute force, and soon, the slippage seemed less and less.
I feel the torque capabilities of the wheel have returned to "normal" and I am
still satisfied with the wheel. I really doubt that I will again use any
lubricant on the belts of the wheel. If the noise returns, I may take other
action but I will be very reluctant to put any lubricant on the belts, not
silicone, WD-40, paraffin, lithium grease, or buckyballs. Ear plugs, maybe.
Joseph Herbert
JJHerb@aol.com
Carolynn Palmer on wed 18 feb 98
My husband, an automobile mechanic, was appalled that someone would put a
lubricant on a belt. A belt is supposed to work by friction. A squealing,
noisy belt needs tightening, and perhaps a belt-dressing applied to it to
quiet it down. He says never put lubricant on a belt.
What he suggests and mechanics use is Automatic Transmission Fluid, called ATF
in the auto world. He says this ATF is supposed to keep rubber bushings and
gaskets soft and pliable, and will work wonders on a belt that is noisey.
Just a few drops on the slowly moving belt on the contact side and a few more
when it gets dry, or needs it again. He says rubber dries out and that is the
cause of most noisey belts.
Carolynn Palmer, Somerset Center, Michigan
Clennell on thu 19 feb 98
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>My husband, an automobile mechanic, was appalled that someone would put a
>lubricant on a belt. A belt is supposed to work by friction. A squealing,
>noisy belt needs tightening, and perhaps a belt-dressing applied to it to
>quiet it down. He says never put lubricant on a belt.
>
Carolyn: Tell hubby the belts in question are NOT rubber they are nylon or
plastic on the Pacifica wheel. I tried the Clayart suggestion of WD- 40 on
the noisy little frigger and I could stop the wheel head just trying to
center. Back to the silicone spray for this cowboy.
Rake your guys brain- I'd love a permanent solution.
cheers,
Tony
amy parker on thu 19 feb 98
Well - i just got my new Pacifica GT400 Monday - am in Pot Heaven!!! Thanks
to all who corresponded on the wheel questions - I was in the middle of the
selection process while this transpired & it was very useful! BTW - ordered
mine from Joan @ Bennett's last Thursday pm & it was delivered Monday noon.
NO SALES TAX!!!! (Ours is 7 % now so this was more than the freight! I'm in GA
and she's in FL.)
I am looking at the manual. I quote:
Included ...a can of non-residual silicone spray for conditioning the drive
belts.
....4 rounds poly belts...
To eliminate belt squeak, apply non-residual silicone spray directly to the
belts.
Spray can label reads: panef(brand) aerosol silicone lubricant -
seals-lubricates-protects. CAUTION LABEL reads: Do not spray on floors or
steps. Can cause slip hazard. Do not spray on car finish.
The new wheel has a slight squeak. Methinks I should use the spray -
HOWEVER - I have worked on enough cars to know that one does NOT grease the
belts!!! One does NOT use silicone spray at car shows in indoor malls. (It
makes tires & interiors SHINY & pretty.) I remember that when i had the
below mentioned Automatic Transmission Fluid ALL OVER THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT
when the torque converter blew, I had to get NEW belts & spent god-knows-how-
much-time cleaning the pulleys!!!
BUT - these are NOT black auto-type belts. These are clear. What is "poly"
as the manual mentions??? I read the other posting that said the spray slowed
down the wheel - which only makes sense!!!
SO - do I spray? or do i turn up the radio? Anybody at Laguna out there to
clarify this?
At 09:27 AM 2/18/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>My husband, an automobile mechanic, was appalled that someone would put a
>lubricant on a belt. A belt is supposed to work by friction. A squealing,
>noisy belt needs tightening, and perhaps a belt-dressing applied to it to
>quiet it down. He says never put lubricant on a belt.
>
>What he suggests and mechanics use is Automatic Transmission Fluid, called ATF
>in the auto world. He says this ATF is supposed to keep rubber bushings and
>gaskets soft and pliable, and will work wonders on a belt that is noisey.
>Just a few drops on the slowly moving belt on the contact side and a few more
>when it gets dry, or needs it again. He says rubber dries out and that is the
>cause of most noisey belts.
>
>Carolynn Palmer, Somerset Center, Michigan
>
amy parker Lithonia, GA
amyp@sd-software.com
Jon Pettyjohn on fri 20 feb 98
Hi,
speaking of squeaky wheels does anybody have any experience
changing the top bearing on an old (20 yrs.+) Shimpo RK-2 ?
It's so loud that I can't listen to my favorite blues cd's
anymore while working.
I tried and failed to take the plate held by 4 Allen screws
off the top, the heads are rusted off.
Any advice appreciated, thanks
Jon Pettyjohn
Manila
jon@mozcom.com
Kevin Hansen on sat 21 feb 98
Hi Amy,
I have a Pacifica GT-800. The belts are made of silicone rubber so the
silicone spray won't hurt them. The trick with using the spray is
to use very little. When I got my wheel it squealed like crazy. I put
some of the spray on the belts and it got better. Then several months
later it started squealing again so I got out the spray and gave the
belts a really good shot. Couldn't center a pound of soft clay with out
stoping the wheel after that. I flipped the wheel over and took off the
bottom shield and used paper towels to clean off all the oil. Put things
back together and it squealed like crazy, applied a little spritz of
oil and quite again with no loss of torque. That was maybe a year ago
and I haven't had to oil the belts again. Maybe they get broken in after
awhile. It's not totally quite now, but the radio is much louder.;)
Kevin
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Well - i just got my new Pacifica GT400 Monday
snip...
SO - do I spray? or do i turn up the radio? Anybody at Laguna out there to
clarify this?
amy parker Lithonia, GA
amyp@sd-software.com
Dennis R. Dorward on mon 23 feb 98
I have the same Pacifica wheel. It did squeak for a while when new. I
tried the silicone spray once but the belts still squeaked. So, I just
ignored it and before too long the squeaking went away.
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