Rosanne Cleveland-King on sat 21 feb 98
I am contemplating a move to another location two miles away. Moving
the kiln seems an untenable problem. It is a 40 cubic foot Fred Olsen
"home built" kiln. Has anyone any suggestions as how to go about
surmounting this obstacle?
Rosanne Cleveland-King
Mud Pies Pottery
carla@iclub.org
June Perry on sun 22 feb 98
Dear Roseanne:
You don't give any indication of the structure of the kiln. When I designed my
Bourry box kiln, I designed it so it could be moved. It has a separate footed,
heavy steel frame on the main part of the kiln(the chamber), and the separate
steel frames for each of the fireboxes. To move it we had to disassemble the
chimney and fireboxes and the main frame of the kiln was lifted with a fork
lift. We needed a single moving truck just for that part of the kiln because
of the weight!
So unless you planned mobility in your design, you may just have to
disassemble the entire kiln, brick for brick and rebuild it.
Good luck!
June
barbara lund on sun 22 feb 98
At 11:43 AM 2/21/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am contemplating a move to another location two miles away. Moving
>the kiln seems an untenable problem. It is a 40 cubic foot Fred Olsen
>"home built" kiln. Has anyone any suggestions as how to go about
>surmounting this obstacle?
>Rosanne Cleveland-King
>Mud Pies Pottery
>carla@iclub.org
>
Several years ago, my friend Barb moved her Olsen kiln about 15 miles from
town to the country down the end of a dirt road. There were 3 key players.
The first was a former clay man turned carpenter. He built a framwork
inside the kiln to keep t from shifting during the move. The next was a
pal(and brother in law of another potter) who just so happened to have a
crane company. Because he could, he had a crane at the house in town and
the house in the country. The third was my own dear husband who contributed
his larger dump truck for the transporting. The carpenter and the crane guy
wrapped the kiln in straps and then on 1-2-3-picked the kiln up off the pad
and gentley lifted it to the back of Marks dump truck. barb stood with her
arms over her head and ears, holding her breath. Then there was a parade
through town and out to the highway until we got to the dirt road. someone
got up into the dump truck and held branches out of the way of the kiln. We
pulled up into Barbs new driveway and the crane waiting there picked the
kiln out of the truck and set it on its new concrete pad. Barb reported
later that there was not a crack anywhere in that kiln! So if you have
friends in the right places this can be done!!
other Barb in Bloomington
gambaru on sun 22 feb 98
Dependant on the kiln structure: remove burners etc., stuff interior with
sturdy cardboard boxes ( really tight) , use metal pipe rollers to move onto
car or skidoo trailer ( flat but they tilt ). Have lots of help but make
one person toolpush. Practice holding your breath and good luck. MB
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosanne Cleveland-King
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 11:47 AM
Subject: Moving Kiln
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am contemplating a move to another location two miles away. Moving
>the kiln seems an untenable problem. It is a 40 cubic foot Fred Olsen
>"home built" kiln. Has anyone any suggestions as how to go about
>surmounting this obstacle?
>Rosanne Cleveland-King
>Mud Pies Pottery
>carla@iclub.org
>
Grimmer on sun 22 feb 98
Rosanne,
Can the kiln be dismantled? You could put the bricks in boxes of
25 and the frame and everything else goes loose in the truck. What
a great excuse to build a new one!
steve grimmer
marion illinois
Rosanne Cleveland-King wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am contemplating a move to another location two miles away. Moving
> the kiln seems an untenable problem. It is a 40 cubic foot Fred Olsen
> "home built" kiln. Has anyone any suggestions as how to go about
> surmounting this obstacle?
> Rosanne Cleveland-King
> Mud Pies Pottery
> carla@iclub.org
Rick Sherman on tue 24 feb 98
----------------------------Original message-------------------------
I am contemplating a move to another location two miles away. Moving
the kiln seems an untenable problem. It is a 40 cubic foot Fred Olsen
"home built" kiln. Has anyone any suggestions as how to go about
surmounting this obstacle?
Rosanne Cleveland-King
Mud Pies Pottery
carla@iclub.
----------------------response----------------------------------------
I moved an Olson 24 across town. I think you could also do this with a
Olson 40. I rented a heavy duty fork lift which would handle 2800
pounds and a driver plus a flatbed truck. After getting the burners out
of the way, we lifted the kiln using two 2X12 planks on placed across
the forks. You could use three 4 x 4's as well. We placed it on the
flatbed, drove across town and dropped in behind my studio on a pad
alread prepared. Did it all in 1/2 a day with no damage to the kiln.
Rick Sherman
San Jose, CA USofA
Rosanne Cleveland-King on mon 21 sep 98
A few people wrote when I asked about moving my 40 cubic foot kiln, and
gave great information. I would like to thank them. The moving was
done just last week, and was successful in every way. I got prices from
a professional heavy equipment moving company ($1200.00) and from a tow
truck company in Lexington, KY that will move just about anything. They
brought a roll back truck and a 5000# forklift, loaded the kiln onto the
forklift, rolled back up the truck with the kiln still on it, and vice
versa wehn they got to the destination. Of course, there was a lot of
tie down work, but they did a great job, and it only cost $350.00
Rosanne Cleveland-King
Mud Pies Pottery
carla@iclub.org
Miriam on wed 16 jul 03
Earl Brunner gave you excellent advice.
Doubt if mover's will have any expertise in moving your kiln... even if you stomp up & down,.... & tell them a hundred times....treat this kiln as tho i'ts an eggshell!!!! Trust me...you will have damaged kiln brick.
There is a phrase you can write ABOVE your signature which will protect you for damages.. it goes something like..
"Subject to undisclosed damage & further inspection"....
The mover's will detest you for doing this... however, just smile cheerfully at them... this must be done on every single paper they ask you to sign.
Miriam
Mark Issenberg on mon 4 feb 08
Shadow May bought a used but like new big front loading electric kiln. Its
a
Olympic that was fired once or twice. He has started building a new studio
in a new Arts District at Terry Cannons place called Loose Cannon. I have
moved a few big kilns ,2 Alpines and have the truck and trailer so Shadow
and I
drove to Armuchee Ga near Rome Georgia about 2 hours from Chattanooga.
There
the kiln loading on the trailer with a Bob Cat and we strapped it down and
drove back to Chattanooga.
At the new studio we backed up to a ramp and with my pallet jack rolled it
into the new studio. Its was so nice that everything worked like a ticking
clock. We had no issues ..
Shadow is going to rent space at a place where Terry Cannon paints ,
Chris
Mosey will be blowing at glass at his new Ignis Glass shop and Tom Mann
has
a
gallery. Also a Dance Troupe and a small Magazine publisher will be in the
same long building.. Its all new ,its fantastic..Terry Cannon is amazing..
Shadow May lost everything in his studio that burned. He lost lots of
recipes and lots of paperwork that he needed . He got a new used Randall
wheel from
Talle Johnson another potter in Chattanooga that lost everything from
Hurricane Katrina..
Shadow will need new supplies to make glazes,glaze buckets just everything
that it takes to be a potter. If any one wants to send money his email
address
is _shadowpottery@hotmail_ (mailto:shadowpottery@hotmail) . and his site is
myspace.com/shadowpottery
It looks like he will be making pots in a week.
In another note check out southernpotters.com im the featured potter for
February .. Its a great site with all kinds of place to look at.
Have a nice Sunday
Mark Lookoutmountainpottery.
Vice President The Potters Council
**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.
(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025
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Fred Parker on tue 5 feb 08
Mark:
I gotta say, having a friend like you is having a REAL friend.
Fred
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:23:08 EST, Mark Issenberg wrote:
>Shadow May bought a used but like new big front loading electric kiln.
Its
>a
>Olympic that was fired once or twice. He has started building a new
studio
>in a new Arts District at Terry Cannons place called Loose Cannon. I
have
>moved a few big kilns ,2 Alpines and have the truck and trailer so
Shadow
>and I
>drove to Armuchee Ga near Rome Georgia about 2 hours from Chattanooga.
>There
>the kiln loading on the trailer with a Bob Cat and we strapped it down
and
>drove back to Chattanooga.
>At the new studio we backed up to a ramp and with my pallet jack
rolled it
>into the new studio. Its was so nice that everything worked like a
ticking
>clock. We had no issues ..
>
>Shadow is going to rent space at a place where Terry Cannon paints ,
>Chris
>Mosey will be blowing at glass at his new Ignis Glass shop and Tom Mann
>has
>a
>gallery. Also a Dance Troupe and a small Magazine publisher will be in
the
>same long building.. Its all new ,its fantastic..Terry Cannon is
amazing..
>
>Shadow May lost everything in his studio that burned. He lost lots of
>recipes and lots of paperwork that he needed . He got a new used Randall
>wheel from
>Talle Johnson another potter in Chattanooga that lost everything from
>Hurricane Katrina..
>
>Shadow will need new supplies to make glazes,glaze buckets just
everything
>that it takes to be a potter. If any one wants to send money his email
>address
>is _shadowpottery@hotmail_ (mailto:shadowpottery@hotmail) . and his
site is
>
>
>myspace.com/shadowpottery
>
>It looks like he will be making pots in a week.
>
>In another note check out southernpotters.com im the featured potter
for
>February .. Its a great site with all kinds of place to look at.
>
>Have a nice Sunday
>
>Mark Lookoutmountainpottery.
>
>Vice President The Potters Council
>
>
>
>
>**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.
>(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?
NCID=aolcmp003000000025
>48)
>
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ELAINE CARROLL on wed 10 aug 11
Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a Skutt 1=
=3D
027? =3D0AI bought a used one about 5 miles from my house, and I have two b=
ro=3D
thers, myself =3D0A=3D0Aand the man I bought it from (all senior citizens),=
for=3D
movers. I'm thinking I =3D0Ashould rent a truck with a ramp.=3DA0 I'm pret=
ty s=3D
ure I'll have to take it apart to =3D0Aget it into my back yard since there=
i=3D
s no easy access. Any tips and hints will =3D0Abe appreciated. I'm so glad =
I =3D
can draw on all the experience out there in =3D0APotteryland. Thanks
gsomdahl on wed 10 aug 11
Go to a big box hardware store and get a caster stand intended for shop
equipment. Raise the kiln onto this stand. It can then be carefully
rolled about. Then get two 4X8 3/4 in OSB panels. Lay one down and roll
the kiln on to it. Lay the other down in the direction you want to go
and roll the kiln from one to the next. Pick up the panel you just left
and place in front in the direction you are moving and roll kiln on to
it. Repeat as needed.
On 08/10/2011 07:21 AM, ELAINE CARROLL wrote:
> Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a Skutt=
1027?
> I bought a used one about 5 miles from my house, and I have two brothers,=
myself
>
> and the man I bought it from (all senior citizens), for movers. I'm think=
ing I
> should rent a truck with a ramp. I'm pretty sure I'll have to take it ap=
art to
> get it into my back yard since there is no easy access. Any tips and hint=
s will
> be appreciated. I'm so glad I can draw on all the experience out there in
> Potteryland. Thanks
>
--
This is a post only account. Send replies to "gene" at my ".com" domain nam=
ed "somdahl".
Larry Kruzan on wed 10 aug 11
You will do best by taking it apart and moving it section by section. =3D
You
didn't say if it is a KM model or a kiln setter type. If it is a KM, =3D
remove
the screws on the left side of the electronics box and it will swing =3D
open
like a door. On mine, the wires were tagged, but if they aren't be sure =3D
to
label them. Once the element and thermocouple wires are unhooked from =3D
the
box, carefully lift it upward off the hinge pins and carry it out.=3D20
The chamber has locks on each section that have to be opened to remove =3D
that
section. I would number the sections with a sharpie just to eliminate =3D
any
confusion with reassembly. When you are carrying the sections, I =3D
recommend
keeping them as level as possible. Do not carry them like a suitcase (my =
=3D
son
did that with one section and I had to change out the bricks).
I would not worry about a ramp truck, a pickup with a sheet of plywood =3D
in
the bed will work fine. The separated sections are not real heavy, but =3D
they
need to be treated like glass. Lay the separated sections in the bed of =3D
the
truck - don't restack - they travel better apart. Setting the top and =3D
bottom
on top of one another will be OK since they are flat, but if you have a
piece of cardboard to sandwich between them it would be good. You should =
=3D
be
able to get it all in one load this way.
There are owners manuals on the Skutt.com website. They show this
pictorially.
Congrats! The 1027 is a great kiln.
Larry Kruzan
Lost Creek Pottery
An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
-----Original Message-----
Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a =3D
Skutt
1027?=3D20
I bought a used one about 5 miles from my house, and I have two =3D
brothers,
myself=3D20
and the man I bought it from (all senior citizens), for movers. I'm =3D
thinking
I=3D20
should rent a truck with a ramp.=3DA0 I'm pretty sure I'll have to take it =
=3D
apart
to=3D20
get it into my back yard since there is no easy access. Any tips and =3D
hints
will=3D20
be appreciated. I'm so glad I can draw on all the experience out there =3D
in=3D20
Potteryland. Thanks
Arnold Howard on wed 10 aug 11
On 8/10/2011 7:21 AM, ELAINE CARROLL wrote:
> Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a Skutt=
1027?
> I bought a used one about 5 miles from my house
Elaine, since you are moving the kiln only five miles, you won't need to
crate it. I would place a sheet of foam packing (it's about 1/16" thick)
between the lid and the kiln. Set the kiln on top of styrofoam in the truck=
.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
William & Susan Schran User on wed 10 aug 11
On 8/10/11 8:21 AM, "ELAINE CARROLL" wrote:
> Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a Skutt
> 1027?=3D20
> I bought a used one about 5 miles from my house, and I have two brothers,
> myself=3D20
> and the man I bought it from (all senior citizens), for movers. I'm think=
=3D
ing I
> should rent a truck with a ramp.=3DA0 I'm pretty sure I'll have to take i=
t ap=3D
art
> to get it into my back yard since there is no easy access. Any tips and =
=3D
hints
> will be appreciated. I'm so glad I can draw on all the experience out th=
=3D
ere
in Potteryland. Thanks
Elaine,
Definitely take the sections apart.
Don't know on this model if sections plug into each other or if the control
panel needs to be removed and wires disconnected.
Take along simple tools and digital camera in case you need to disconnect
stuff.
Each section can be easily carried by one or two people.
Remove lid - check instructions if lid has tensioned springs and how to
remove these.
If somebody has wagon or SUV you can fit all in there.
If you stack sections, put cardboard in between.
Bill
--=3D20
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
lori leary on wed 10 aug 11
I would take it apart and move each section separately. Don't try to =3D
move it all in one piece, and MAKE SURE that the sections are held by =3D
the handles. Don't grab the ring sections from underneath. It's very =3D
easy to crush and break the softbrick. Wrap each section in blankets =3D
while they are being transported. You will most likely have to make =3D
multiple trips, depending on the space you have in your vehicle.=3D20
Hope this helps,
Lori L.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:21 AM, ELAINE CARROLL wrote:
> Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a =3D
Skutt 1027?=3D20
> I bought a used one about 5 miles from my house, and I have two =3D
brothers, myself probraly
>=3D20
> and the man I bought it from (all senior citizens), for movers. I'm =3D
thinking I=3D20
> should rent a truck with a ramp. I'm pretty sure I'll have to take it =
=3D
apart to=3D20
> get it into my back yard since there is no easy access. Any tips and =3D
hints will=3D20
> be appreciated. I'm so glad I can draw on all the experience out there =
=3D
in=3D20
> Potteryland. Thanks
KATHI LESUEUR on wed 10 aug 11
When I moved back to Michigan from Texas I had to move my electric kiln. =
=3D
This is how I did it. I placed a wooden pallet in my van and then placed =
=3D
a sheet 1" blue styrofoam on it, then placed the lid of the kiln on =3D
that. A piece of thin plywood next. Another piece of styrofoam. Place =3D
the kiln on that. Another piece of wood and styrofoam and then place the =
=3D
base on that. Use bungee cords or strapping to secure everything. Then =3D
just unload in reverse order.
KATHI LESUEUR
http://www.lesueurclaywork.com
>=3D20
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:21 AM, ELAINE CARROLL wrote:
>=3D20
>> Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a =3D
Skutt 1027?=3D20
>> I bought a used one about 5 miles from my house, and I have two =3D
brothers, myself probraly
>>=3D20
>> and the man I bought it from (all senior citizens), for movers. I'm =3D
thinking I=3D20
>> should rent a truck with a ramp. I'm pretty sure I'll have to take =3D
it apart to=3D20
>> get it into my back yard since there is no easy access. Any tips and =3D
hints will=3D20
>> be appreciated. I'm so glad I can draw on all the experience out =3D
there in=3D20
>> Potteryland. Thanks
>=3D20
WJ Seidl on wed 10 aug 11
A different idea.
Go to any big store and obtain a wooden pallet of strong
construction...standard size =3D 40X48 inches which should be large enough=
.
Place the pallet on two moving dollies, or a 4 wheel hand truck.
Slide /lift/maneuver the kiln onto that pallet.
Strap the kiln to the pallet (LID CLOSED!) with ratchet straps (2 should
suffice, in a cross pattern) including the hand truck or moving dollies.
Not too tight! You just want to hold it in place, not crush brick!
Roll the assembly up the ramp onto the truck. One person in front or
rear pulling or pushing, one on each side to balance.
That's how we moved ours from FL to VT, then to ME...no damage at all.
Of course, you could always rent a truck with a lift gate. That's even
easier!
Best,
Wayne Seidl
On 8/10/2011 10:06 AM, William & Susan Schran User wrote:
> On 8/10/11 8:21 AM, "ELAINE CARROLL" wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have good suggestions on the best way to move a kiln, a Skut=
t
>> 1027?
>> I bought a used one about 5 miles from my house, and I have two brothers=
,
>> myself
>> and the man I bought it from (all senior citizens), for movers. I'm thin=
king I
>> should rent a truck with a ramp. I'm pretty sure I'll have to take it a=
part
>> to get it into my back yard since there is no easy access. Any tips and=
hints
>> will be appreciated. I'm so glad I can draw on all the experience out t=
here
> in Potteryland. Thanks
>
> Elaine,
> Definitely take the sections apart.
> Don't know on this model if sections plug into each other or if the contr=
ol
> panel needs to be removed and wires disconnected.
> Take along simple tools and digital camera in case you need to disconnect
> stuff.
> Each section can be easily carried by one or two people.
> Remove lid - check instructions if lid has tensioned springs and how to
> remove these.
> If somebody has wagon or SUV you can fit all in there.
> If you stack sections, put cardboard in between.
>
> Bill
>
Arnold Howard on thu 11 aug 11
On 8/10/2011 5:21 PM, WJ Seidl wrote:
> Slide /lift/maneuver the kiln onto that pallet.
> Strap the kiln to the pallet (LID CLOSED!) with ratchet straps (2 should
> suffice, in a cross pattern) including the hand truck or moving dollies.
> Not too tight!
That's essentially how we move kilns at trade shows. (Since the kilns
will be shipped long distance by truck, we also build crates around
them.) I would also suggest a thin sheet of foam packing under the
closed lid.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
Arnold Howard on thu 11 aug 11
On 8/10/2011 11:58 AM, KATHI LESUEUR wrote:
Use bungee cords or strapping to secure everything.
You can buy a four-pack of ratchet straps from Home Depot for less than
$20. They are wonderful. There is an art to using these straps. I
sometimes use them at trade shows to secure kilns to skids. I used them
extensively last week when I helped my son move from Delaware back to Texas=
.
Buy ratchet straps that are long enough for your project. To secure a
Paragon Dragon kiln to a skid, I use a 20' ratchet strap. However, you
can also combine two straps by tying the end of one to the hook on
another. That works quite well.
We used ratchet straps to tie down the cargo in the back of my son's
truck. Occasionally during our 1500-mile journey, we had to tighten the
straps--effortlessly, with just a click or two.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
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