search  current discussion  categories  safety - health 

doctor cure thyself

updated wed 22 apr 98

 

Mel Jacobson on fri 17 apr 98

a very funny story:

dannon rhudy posted such a nice letter about glaze ideas not traveling very
well, and not to be disturbed if they do not turn out as expected.

and then yesterday i get a private email from her...stating:

`grambelfracking globby dork iron red glaze will not work in my kiln, doug
gets a rich red, mel gets a really rich red ,and all i get is a @$#^&^damn
dumb brown.` `what am i doing wrong`?

i just told her to read her previous post, and keep on testing.

i have been smiling ever since.

(but i do not want to be near paris, texas for some time....)
god, how many times have i asked nils or kurt some dumb ass
question, and then watch their eyes roll back in their heads...and hear
them say,
tsk, tsk, tsk.

mel/mn

p.s. i have a left over high pressure regulator for sale...it is
1 pound to 5 pounds...brand new.


http://www.pclink.com/melpots

Janet H Walker on sun 19 apr 98

From yesterday's digest:

Mel quoting Dannon: dannon rhudy posted such a nice letter about
glaze ideas not traveling very well, and not to be disturbed if they
do not turn out as expected.

Dannon to Mel: ...`grambelfracking globby dork iron red glaze will
not work in my kiln, doug gets a rich red, mel gets a really rich
red ,and all i get is a @$#^&^damn dumb brown.` `what am i doing
wrong`?

Mel: i just told her to read her previous post, and keep on testing.


But really. If you don't have any idea what to do next, it isn't
testing, it's shooting in the dark for the hell of it.

Dannon already knows the following I'm sure but for others who are
wondering about the same problem with iron reds. In my experience,
if you're getting brown instead of red, you want to look at what is
happening during cooling. This is in oxidation particularly. Iron
reds in reduction are much easier I'm told. But perhaps something
is going on during cooling that is affecting how Dannon's glazes are
coming out. Either the rate of cooling or the extent of reoxidizing
might be places to look.

Regards,
Jan Walker
Cambridge MA USA
jwalker@world.std.com
Biting my tongue so I won't go into my diatribe about what the words
"testing" and "experimenting" tend to mean to people who have been
through education that includes research methods.

DIANA PANCIOLI, ASSOC. PROF. on tue 21 apr 98

Just a guess about dumb brown reds: add more iron oxide.

Diana
EMU

On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Janet H Walker wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> From yesterday's digest:
>
> Mel quoting Dannon: dannon rhudy posted such a nice letter about
> glaze ideas not traveling very well, and not to be disturbed if they
> do not turn out as expected.
>
> Dannon to Mel: ...`grambelfracking globby dork iron red glaze will
> not work in my kiln, doug gets a rich red, mel gets a really rich
> red ,and all i get is a @$#^&^damn dumb brown.` `what am i doing
> wrong`?
>
> Mel: i just told her to read her previous post, and keep on testing.
>
>
> But really. If you don't have any idea what to do next, it isn't
> testing, it's shooting in the dark for the hell of it.
>
> Dannon already knows the following I'm sure but for others who are
> wondering about the same problem with iron reds. In my experience,
> if you're getting brown instead of red, you want to look at what is
> happening during cooling. This is in oxidation particularly. Iron
> reds in reduction are much easier I'm told. But perhaps something
> is going on during cooling that is affecting how Dannon's glazes are
> coming out. Either the rate of cooling or the extent of reoxidizing
> might be places to look.
>
> Regards,
> Jan Walker
> Cambridge MA USA
> jwalker@world.std.com
> Biting my tongue so I won't go into my diatribe about what the words
> "testing" and "experimenting" tend to mean to people who have been
> through education that includes research methods.
>