Carolyn Hollingsworth on tue 28 apr 98
Lizella clay is a red clay from Lizella Georgia. Here in the Atlanta area
it is available from either of our major suppliers, Davens or Kickwheel.
Carolyn Hollingsworth
Diane Mead on fri 2 may 03
HI:
This clay co. is 12 min. from my house.
I've owned pots fired from ^5 to ^ 8
of this clay. They are all gone now and
through pretty gentle use did not last 2 years.
I did not make these and do not know
all info on this matter. This is my
isolated experience with this clay
fired ^5 to ^8. There used to be a
great "ocmulgee red" clay (not lizella)
but I'm told it exists
no more.
diane mead
Karin Hurt on mon 5 may 03
A friend of mine made a birdbath for me 6 years ago. I has been outside ever
since with summer temps sometimes reaching 120, 125. It is holding water, was
not glazed, is approx. 2 inches thick and fired at Cone 5.
Lizella is a wonderful clay to work with, especially in handbuilding. Wish I
could get it in Arizona without paying huge shipping charges.
kARIN
Arizona, USA
Laughing Bear Pottery
Billie Mitchell on mon 5 may 03
On Fri, 2 May 2003 09:49:36 -0400, Diane Mead wrote:
>HI:
>This clay co. is 12 min. from my house.
>I've owned pots fired from ^5 to ^ 8
>of this clay. They are all gone now and
>through pretty gentle use did not last 2 years.
>I did not make these and do not know
>all info on this matter. This is my
>isolated experience with this clay
>fired ^5 to ^8. There used to be a
>great "ocmulgee red" clay (not lizella)
>but I'm told it exists
>no more.
>diane mead
i have used lizella clay for years. have never had a problem with it. i
have a pot that i made for my pond that is outside and has water running
through it for a couple of years.. no cracks no chips nothing.i also know
alot of potters that use this clay and never heard of anything happening to
their pots. i know of one potter that rakus with lizella. so i would think
that this is an isolated experience.
billie mitchell
artistswc@bellsouth.net
Fred Parker on fri 8 sep 06
I recently got some Lizella clay and have been trying to work with it.
(For anyone unfamiliar with it, Lizella is a small town in middle Georgia
where this stuff is mined. I think a major use is in brickmaking.) I was
wondering if anyone has experience with it, and especially, if anyone has
any suggestions for working with it -- like additives to make it a bit
more plastic. Mine tends to break easily in handbuilding. I tried it on
the wheel, and assume it is definitely not a throwing clay because of its
grog content and removal of a good portion of the skin on my hands.
Although I haven't seen it fired yet, I live nearby -- less than a hundred
miles from Lizella -- so I'd like to figure out some way to use it if
possible.
Thanks,
Fred Parker
Barbara Lewis on fri 8 sep 06
Fred: The only thing I know about Lizella is that a claybody that Val
Cushing uses contained Lizella. Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Parker"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: Lizella clay
>I recently got some Lizella clay and have been trying to work with it.
> (For anyone unfamiliar with it, Lizella is a small town in middle Georgia
> where this stuff is mined. I think a major use is in brickmaking.) I was
> wondering if anyone has experience with it, and especially, if anyone has
> any suggestions for working with it -- like additives to make it a bit
> more plastic. Mine tends to break easily in handbuilding. I tried it on
> the wheel, and assume it is definitely not a throwing clay because of its
> grog content and removal of a good portion of the skin on my hands.
> Although I haven't seen it fired yet, I live nearby -- less than a hundred
> miles from Lizella -- so I'd like to figure out some way to use it if
> possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred Parker
>
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Jon Brinley on sat 9 sep 06
Fred,
Throwing Lizella is what it is designed for. The mainstay of the
company was flower pots.
Though they were jiggered. Its a great body for raku work because of its
ability to take
thermal shock. I regularly put a piece in with my other work when I fire the
gas kiln.
I have always been told it cannot be fired past ^8 or ^9 without bloating.
I fire to ^11 flat.
Though the piece is carbon cored badly, it can take those temps(at least in
my kiln).
It also makes a nice glaze. Try 50/50 (by weight)with ashes.
If you want I will send you some photos of pieces from a recent firing.
And I too live near Lizella( about 40 miles).
Jon Brinley
Sweetgum Pottery
Midland, Ga. USA
Wayne Seidl on sat 9 sep 06
Fred:
There are a few of us on the list using Lizella (four that I know of).
While I can't presume to speak for the others, here's what I have found.
Lizella was most often used for jiggering flower pots. I don't know of =
any
use making brick, unless the original clay was altered. That may be =
what
you have, and it may have had the addition of a coarse grog or fire clay =
for
ease in making/molding brick.
I've tried my hand at throwing Lizella, and did not have a problem. I =
found
it to be a delightful throwing clay "right out of the ground". However, =
I
throw soft clay. If you are having problems throwing it, try slaking it =
and
re-wedging when ready. I did not notice a problem with excessive grog. =
It
seems that the Lizella I used was composed of very fine grog, almost a
"dust" in size as opposed to a grog that would sand your fingers off
(believe me, I've been _there_.) I've been told that the reason for =
that is
Lizella contains naturally occurring "silver sand". Whatever, it is much
finer grog than typical stoneware clays contain. I found that it was =
similar
to a finely grogged porcelain or terracotta, more than similar to a =
brick
clay.
When I used it for hand building, Lizella did not appreciate being =
rolled
into thin slabs. You are correct that (when thin,) it's not very =
plastic. =20
It tends to dry quickly, so the re-slaking and using it somewhat soft =
might
be the answer. The addition of a percent or two of bentonite would =
probably
cure the plasticity issue you are having, but it might alter the color =
or
firing characteristics. I have not tested that. It sculpts quite well.
One person told me that Lizella can be fired from about cone 1 to over =
cone
10, and has showed me examples of that hi-fire work. Gorgeous stuff. It
tends to slump past cone 8, so one must be careful of that.
Hope that helps,
Wayne Seidl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Parker"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: Lizella clay
>I recently got some Lizella clay and have been trying to work with it.
> (For anyone unfamiliar with it, Lizella is a small town in middle =
Georgia
> where this stuff is mined. I think a major use is in brickmaking.) I =
was
> wondering if anyone has experience with it, and especially, if anyone =
has
> any suggestions for working with it -- like additives to make it a bit
> more plastic. Mine tends to break easily in handbuilding. I tried it =
on
> the wheel, and assume it is definitely not a throwing clay because of =
its
> grog content and removal of a good portion of the skin on my hands.
> Although I haven't seen it fired yet, I live nearby -- less than a =
hundred
> miles from Lizella -- so I'd like to figure out some way to use it if
> possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred Parker
Hal Giddens on mon 11 sep 06
Fred, I've used the Lizella clay for throwing small pieces and it works
fine once you get used to it. If it is too moist I will let it dry a
little and that helps as long as it doesn't get too dry. It's not the
easiest clay to throw with but all the different clays I've used also take
a little bit getting used to and it does fire real nice.
Hal Giddens
Home Grown Pottery
1578 Rockledge Road
Rockledge, GA 30454
kenhal@bellsouth.net
http://www.homegrownpottery.blogspot.com/
http://wwwstpatricksproject2007.blogspot.com
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