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majolica woes

updated fri 5 jun 98

 

sharon miranda on mon 25 may 98

Dear Clayarters:
Please could you help me.
I am fatally attracted to majolica, but after I returned to it, after
5 years, I realized why I abandoned it: pinholes!

Could anyone answer these questions?
Does pinholing occur because of too fast firing or slowing down?
(I fired to 04 on medium with my controller.Kiln cooled in 24
hours
but after the firing finishes it cools very rapidly)
Can I refire to get rid of said pinholes?
Would a commercial glaze work better? Or is a comm.glaze prohibitively
expensive?

Does anyone have experience using Stroke and Coat as majolica colors?
Because I noticed that where the color was thick (on the edges of a brush
stroke for instance) there was crawling of the glaze.Otherwise it seems
these colors are ideal for majolica.

Does anyone have a recipe for a cone 6 majolica? Or cone 4?

TIA,
Sharon


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Clyde Tullis on tue 26 may 98

Sharon,

Its not as easy as it looks. 24 hr. is more than enough. like anything
in this area you have a number of things to consider. I fire to the same
temp. in about 12 hr. I make sure to take 6 hrs. from 500 degrees F up
to about 1100 with the lid proped 1/2 in. up to 500 and the top spys out
from 500 to 1100. I fire green glazed and bisqued ware this way. Hope
it helps.

Clyde Tullis
c/o Raven Hill, Inc and MUDLARK POTTERY
0111 County Road 45
Howard, CO 81233
719-942-4772
FAX 719-942-3211
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NgtvSpace on tue 26 may 98

Did you add starch to your mason stains mixed with frit? Most of my recipes
fire better at 03. What type of brushes are you using and how do you stroke?
Are you sanding the pot with your hand after dipping? What clay body are you
using? Remember Majolica came about as European potters wanted to imitate
Chinese porcelain, (although the technique was brought to Europe by the
Moors) it was design to fit over terracotta

Lorca

P.S. Michael I'm a SHE

Mudnjoy on tue 26 may 98

In a message dated 98-05-25 09:30:06 EDT, you write:

> Please could you help me.
> I am fatally attracted to majolica, but after I returned to it, after
> 5 years, I realized why I abandoned it: pinholes!
>
> Could anyone answer these questions?

Check the clay art archives a few weeks ago Majolica was the hot subject.

sharon miranda on tue 26 may 98

I am not using mason stains, but commercial stroke and coat underglazes.
Yes, I sand w/my hand. I am using white (Laguna earthenware) - My majolica
fits it very well. I believe my problems are in the bisquing (too low)
and the firing. This time I want to persevere and get it.S

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On Mon, 25 May 1998, NgtvSpace wrote:

> Did you add starch to your mason stains mixed with frit? Most of my recipes
> fire better at 03. What type of brushes are you using and how do you stroke?
> Are you sanding the pot with your hand after dipping? What clay body are you
> using? Remember Majolica came about as European potters wanted to imitate
> Chinese porcelain, (although the technique was brought to Europe by the
> Moors) it was design to fit over terracotta
>
> Lorca
>
> P.S. Michael I'm a SHE
>

Kim Marie on wed 27 may 98

Another possible alternative...the march 97 issue of Ceramics Monthly had
recipes for engobes by Wayne Bates. you may want to check out his work. the
article had several color pictures to give you an idea of the effects he
achieved.
kim

At 08:31 AM 5/26/98 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>In a message dated 98-05-25 09:30:06 EDT, you write:
>
>> Please could you help me.
>> I am fatally attracted to majolica, but after I returned to it, after
>> 5 years, I realized why I abandoned it: pinholes!
>>
>> Could anyone answer these questions?
>
> Check the clay art archives a few weeks ago Majolica was the hot subject.
>
>

Sue Davis on thu 28 may 98

I too am fatally attracted to Majolica. I have (sorta) solved the pin hole
problem by rubbing over the entire piece of raw glazed ware. When firing the
kiln I "soak" it for at least an hour at the maturing rate (cone o4) of the
glaze. Has helped a great deal. Hope this helps you.

Sue Davis Pottery in sunny south Florida

sharon miranda on sun 31 may 98

I think it's the soaking that does it. I've got a kiln to unload tomorrow,
that I soaked for 5 hours, We'll see....


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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Sue Davis wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I too am fatally attracted to Majolica. I have (sorta) solved the pin hole
> problem by rubbing over the entire piece of raw glazed ware. When firing the
> kiln I "soak" it for at least an hour at the maturing rate (cone o4) of the
> glaze. Has helped a great deal. Hope this helps you.
>
> Sue Davis Pottery in sunny south Florida
>

Pat Harden&Brooks Ratledge on tue 2 jun 98

I had a pin hole problem that I asked Pete Pinnell about. He suggested
soaking for about 30 minutes before the frit in the glaze melts. I use
Ferro Frit 3124. I soak at 1350 degrees F. for 30 minutes and have had
no more problems with pin holes or freckles. Hope this works for you.

Patricia Harden
Just back from Italy in body only

Linda Blossom on tue 2 jun 98

The soaking may be necessary for one glaze, but not for others. I have =
rarely
soaked more than 30 minutes and after firing hundreds of glazes at cone 6 =
have
few pinholing problems. I had more problems at cone five.

Linda Blossom
2366 Slaterville Rd.
Ithaca, NY 14850
6075397912
www.artscape.com
blossom=40lightlink.com

Michelle Lowe on wed 3 jun 98

At 09:17 AM 6/2/98 EDT, Linda Blossom wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>The soaking may be necessary for one glaze, but not for others. I have =
>rarely
>soaked more than 30 minutes and after firing hundreds of glazes at cone 6 =
>have
>few pinholing problems. I had more problems at cone five.

I fired at cone six for five years and found that my glazes liked a good
30-60 minute soak or many of them would pinhole. But then, I like rutile
glazes and they are known to pinhole. Soaking usually took care of the
problem.

Several years ago when I made my first foray into majolica, I tried Linda
Arbuckle's majolica recipe and emailed Linda to ask if she soaked her 04/03
recipe (check out her article at the ceramicsWeb, it's awesome-
http://apple.sdsu.edu/ceramicsweb/articles/majolica.html and the recipes
http://apple.sdsu.edu/ceramicsweb/articles/arbucklemajolica.html )

She told me she doesn't soak her majolica and so I never did and I have
never had any pinholing problems with that glaze. Perhaps the pinholing
problem someone reported was not firing the earthenware clay high enough in
the bisque?

YMMV :)

Mishy, who realizes this dates her online life ;-)






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Vince Pitelka on wed 3 jun 98

>Remember Majolica came about as European potters wanted to imitate
>Chinese porcelain, (although the technique was brought to Europe by the
>Moors) it was design to fit over terracotta

Lorca -
I tend to be a bit of a stickler about historical information, but I try to
do so in the name of constructive spread of information. Tin-glazed
earthenware originated in the Middle East before the Chinese were making
porcelain, and it spread with Islam across North Africa, and as you point
out, into Europe. But it was a circuitous route. Hispano-Moresque ceramics
spread to Italy via the island of Mallorca, and in Italy the name evolved to
maiolica. As was mentioned several weeks ago, the tin-glaze process with
overglaze colors moved into Europe via Faenza, and thus the French called it
faience. In most European countries faience was referred to by the places
it was made, so in Holland it is Delft, in Germany Hannau, in England
Bristol and Lambeth, etc, etc.

Once Chinese porcelain began to appear in the west, both the Middle Eastern
Islamic potters and the European potters began immitating it in faience (and
the Islamic potters did a far better job of this than the Europeans did),
but it is not really correct to say that Maiolica immitated Chinese
porcelain, because the Italians did so only very rarely, especially in 14th
and 15th century maiolica.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
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Lorca Beebe on thu 4 jun 98

Vince:

Thank You for correcting me, I have read a great deal on Majolica, Delftware,
faence, etc...I got this information from a book on majolica, I'll have to
back track and find out where I got this source of mis-information from, this
new information sheds a whole different light on the subject, and busts apart
alot of my theories on postmodern appropriations before postmodernism was ever
invented....I'm kinda of a majolica nut, so if you could refere me to more
reading or suggest collections to look up I'd really appreciate it ...

Lorca