Barney Adams on wed 27 may 98
Well my kiln is finally in, and as I wait for the
electrician to put in another 100amp service I want
to make up a shopping list (kiln wash, cones,...).
I have a Skutt kilnmaster, but still want to use
cones to moniter. I've been firing bisque at a class
I'm taking and they bisque to ^010. I've read that
the bisque range is ^08 to ^06. I primarily work with
stoneware and will fire to ^6. What is the considerations
for the range of bisque temperatures?
I'm thinking of ^08 and I guess since this will be a
new thing maybe as I learn nuiances I can change later.
I'm probably also going to get a kiln furniture kit.
Will 5/8" shevles do me or should I invest in 1"?
Barney
"The 'wheel' has been easy, but now this firing/glaze spectre
looms before me", he said excitedly.
Joseph A. Troncale, M.D. on thu 28 may 98
Dear Barney,
I understand your excitement, and I remember it well.
If you are using stoneware as your clay, I would consider bisquing to ^04.
I don't think the shelf width is that big of a consideration for a Kilnmaster.
The next thing you need are some good glaze recipies!
Joe Troncale
-----Original Message-----
From: Barney Adams [SMTP:barn@Mcs.Net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 8:41 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Subject: beginner questions
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Well my kiln is finally in, and as I wait for the
electrician to put in another 100amp service I want
to make up a shopping list (kiln wash, cones,...).
I have a Skutt kilnmaster, but still want to use
cones to moniter. I've been firing bisque at a class
I'm taking and they bisque to ^010. I've read that
the bisque range is ^08 to ^06. I primarily work with
stoneware and will fire to ^6. What is the considerations
for the range of bisque temperatures?
I'm thinking of ^08 and I guess since this will be a
new thing maybe as I learn nuiances I can change later.
I'm probably also going to get a kiln furniture kit.
Will 5/8" shevles do me or should I invest in 1"?
Barney
"The 'wheel' has been easy, but now this firing/glaze spectre
looms before me", he said excitedly.
Ron Roy on thu 28 may 98
I recommend cone 04 for bisque - the main reason - it helps avoid quartz
dunting of bisque - especially in larger work and specifically in platters
and plates.
5/8" shhelves will work fine.
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Well my kiln is finally in, and as I wait for the
>electrician to put in another 100amp service I want
>to make up a shopping list (kiln wash, cones,...).
>I have a Skutt kilnmaster, but still want to use
>cones to moniter. I've been firing bisque at a class
>I'm taking and they bisque to ^010. I've read that
>the bisque range is ^08 to ^06. I primarily work with
>stoneware and will fire to ^6. What is the considerations
>for the range of bisque temperatures?
>
>I'm thinking of ^08 and I guess since this will be a
>new thing maybe as I learn nuiances I can change later.
>
>I'm probably also going to get a kiln furniture kit.
>Will 5/8" shevles do me or should I invest in 1"?
>
>Barney
>
>"The 'wheel' has been easy, but now this firing/glaze spectre
>looms before me", he said excitedly.
Ron Roy
93 Pegasus Trail
Scarborough, Ontario
Canada M1G 3N8
Tel: 416-439-2621
Fax: 416-438-7849
Web page: http://digitalfire.com/education/people/ronroy.htm
Cindy on fri 29 may 98
Barney,
I primarily work with
> stoneware and will fire to ^6. What is the considerations
> for the range of bisque temperatures?
For mid to high fire work, most folks who bisque, bisque to ^04. An hour
long soak at the end of the bisque doesn't hurt, either--helps get rid of
those pesky volatiles that can end up as bubbles in your glazes.
>
> I'm thinking of ^08 and I guess since this will be a
> new thing maybe as I learn nuiances I can change later.
^08 may not prove satisfactory for your work. It's a good temp for work
that will be fumed or smoke fired to lower temperatures. It will likely
leave volatiles in your body as well as leaving the bisque too porous for
easy glazing.
>
> I'm probably also going to get a kiln furniture kit.
> Will 5/8" shevles do me or should I invest in 1"?
My shelves are 5/8, fairly new, and have begun to warp. But they're lighter
than 1" shelves and bending over that kiln to load the lower shelves is
hard to do in a way that spares your back.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels
Custer, SD
USA http://blackhills-info.com/a/cindys/menu.htm
barn on fri 29 may 98
Siince I'm using premixed I'm going to ask the supplier what
bisque cone they recommend (as suggested to me) Why do you
recommend ^04 for more duability?
Barney
Joseph A. Troncale, M.D. wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear Barney,
> I understand your excitement, and I remember it well.
> If you are using stoneware as your clay, I would consider bisquing to ^04.
> I don't think the shelf width is that big of a consideration for a Kilnmaster.
> The next thing you need are some good glaze recipies!
> Joe Troncale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barney Adams [SMTP:barn@Mcs.Net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 8:41 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
> Subject: beginner questions
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Well my kiln is finally in, and as I wait for the
> electrician to put in another 100amp service I want
> to make up a shopping list (kiln wash, cones,...).
> I have a Skutt kilnmaster, but still want to use
> cones to moniter. I've been firing bisque at a class
> I'm taking and they bisque to ^010. I've read that
> the bisque range is ^08 to ^06. I primarily work with
> stoneware and will fire to ^6. What is the considerations
> for the range of bisque temperatures?
>
> I'm thinking of ^08 and I guess since this will be a
> new thing maybe as I learn nuiances I can change later.
>
> I'm probably also going to get a kiln furniture kit.
> Will 5/8" shevles do me or should I invest in 1"?
>
> Barney
>
> "The 'wheel' has been easy, but now this firing/glaze spectre
> looms before me", he said excitedly.
Don Prey on fri 29 may 98
In a message dated 05/27/98 5:41:25 AM, you wrote:
<<
I'm thinking of ^08 and I guess since this will be a
new thing maybe as I learn nuiances I can change later.
I'm probably also going to get a kiln furniture kit.
Will 5/8" shelves do me or should I invest in 1"?
>>
Barney,
Like most things, the right bisque temperature depends upon a few other
things.... your clay body, glazes and glaze technique to mention a few. cone
08 is a good place to start. I have used 5/8" shelves for cone 6 firings for
years and that would be my choice.
Don Prey in Oregon
Mike Martino on mon 12 nov 01
Hello All,
My wife and I discovered pottery about 8 months ago and we are both hooked.
For a few months now, I've been lurking in the shadows reading posts on the
list and basking in the wealth of information that gets passed around. It's
great! I'm hoping that someday I'll have a useful 2 cents to put in, but for
now I just have a question I'd like to post.
Does anyone have a good recipe for fire clay mortar? I'm helping build a
wood kiln and we need something to dip the bricks in. I've seen some sites
for fireplace building which just use fire clay and water. For kilns and the
hotter temps, are there any ingredients that need to by added, or is a
straight fire clay mortar still good for dipping kiln bricks?
Thanks
Mike
Mike Martino
Dallas, Texas
John Weber on tue 13 nov 01
Mike, maybe someone else will give you a great recipe for a mortar, but I
for one have tried several different approaches and the only one that seems
to work is to buy commercially prepared mortar from your refractory dealer,
get the kind that comes in a plastic bucket with water over the top, you
then mix it to the consistence you need. If you want to dip you bricks just
mix it thinner. Good luck.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
> Behalf Of Mike Martino
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: beginner questions
>
>
> Hello All,
> My wife and I discovered pottery about 8 months ago and we are
> both hooked.
> For a few months now, I've been lurking in the shadows reading
> posts on the
> list and basking in the wealth of information that gets passed
> around. It's
> great! I'm hoping that someday I'll have a useful 2 cents to put
> in, but for
> now I just have a question I'd like to post.
> Does anyone have a good recipe for fire clay mortar? I'm helping build a
> wood kiln and we need something to dip the bricks in. I've seen some sites
> for fireplace building which just use fire clay and water. For
> kilns and the
> hotter temps, are there any ingredients that need to by added, or is a
> straight fire clay mortar still good for dipping kiln bricks?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
>
> Mike Martino
> Dallas, Texas
>
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