Berry Silverman on mon 8 jun 98
Seems about time to tackle a website. I not inclined to do it myself,
since other responsibilites call, as well. I am curious about how
others have done this. Have you used the services of friends? Have
you tried professional web designers? What seems to work best? And,
importantly, do you feel you have had inquiries and/or sales as a
result of your website? Also, has anyone had experience with
wholesale sales on your website, as opposed to interested direct
consumers? My main market is wholesale, but I don't want to be
quoting wholesale prices on a website that retail purchasers have
access to. How do you handle this?
Berry Silverman in Tucson, where I sit inside on this Sunday,
pondering all the big projects that need to get done, while sunlight
blinks off the pool surface, tempting me, and the temperature hovers
at 90+
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John Hesselberth on tue 9 jun 98
Berry,
I have a website (www.frogpondpottery.com). I've had it a little over a
year and it is beginning to pay dividends. I strongly recommend getting
your own domain name; I think this establishes you as a commericial
enterprise. I now get 900-1000 hits a month. In the first six months,
not much in the way of sales. In the last 6 months, 4 nice gallery sales
(from 4 different galleries) and several more inquiries. It is growing.
I also chose a first class ISP who I am pretty sure will be in business a
few years from now (Mindspring). They are a little more expensive on a
monthly basis; however they give really excellent service and, in my
opinion, earn their monthly fee of $50. I had my site done by a
professional (Arachnatech -- www.arachnatech.com). I had an advantage
on paying for it though since Arachnatech is run by my daughter. Still,
what a professional will provide is optimized fast loading pages which is
important when you have lot of graphics as potters do, a certain route to
getting listed by search engines, more complex features like on line
ordering if you want it and handling of ALL the administrative stuff on
setting it all up. And of course a pro knows what makes a site look good
and operate smoothly. I now maintain my site myself and have expanded it
on occasion. I show only retail prices, but make it clear that I am
interested in wholesale inquiries. That allows me to screen a little
before I send out wholesale terms, etc. I have also recently subscribed
to Mountain Lakes on-line order processing service. It is too early to
tell if that will pay off or not; however they had very reasonable terms
($100/6 months, 5% on orders taken, no setup fee) and have done a lot of
work to set up my catalog on their site. Overall, I'd say do it! The
web is developing into a strong marketing tool--particularly for
wholesale. You probably will have red ink for the 1st year or so, but it
is, in my opinion, a good long term investment.
Please visit my site and check it out. Also please feel to communicate
directly with me if I can be of any more help. Also feel free to contact
my daughter at Arachnatech if you want a quote on having a site done
(janet@arachnatech.com)
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Seems about time to tackle a website. I not inclined to do it myself,
>since other responsibilites call, as well. I am curious about how
>others have done this. Have you used the services of friends? Have
>you tried professional web designers? What seems to work best? And,
>importantly, do you feel you have had inquiries and/or sales as a
>result of your website? Also, has anyone had experience with
>wholesale sales on your website, as opposed to interested direct
>consumers? My main market is wholesale, but I don't want to be
>quoting wholesale prices on a website that retail purchasers have
>access to. How do you handle this?
>
>Berry Silverman in Tucson, where I sit inside on this Sunday,
>pondering all the big projects that need to get done, while sunlight
>blinks off the pool surface, tempting me, and the temperature hovers
>at 90+
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
John Hesselberth
Frog Pond Pottery
Pocopson, PA 19366 USA
EMail: john@frogpondpottery.com
visit my web site at http://www.frogpondpottery.com
"Why should we be in such desperate haste to succeed and in such
desperate enterprises? If a man does not keep pace with his companions,
perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the
music he hears, however measured or far away." Henry David Thoreau,
Walden, 1854
Tyler Hannigan on tue 9 jun 98
Dear Berry,
First off I'm a web site builder and thus have a perspective a little
different than some of your other responses. But I'm also an
Artist/Craftsmen with a degree and background in ceramics. Most sites I've
built are not designed for immediate sales but are intended to help the
collector find where an artist/craftsmen's work can be seen and purchases.
There is prevailing need for the retail customer to get their hands on the
item before purchasing. So the web has not been a powerful retail sales tool
for the the typical craftsmen.
Wholesale depends on a focused market. Retailers who are computer savvy and
have seen your work before or can easily comprehend through seeing a well
designed site may develop a relationship with you. Most likely you will be
most successful if you consider the internet as an integrated part of your
marketing plan. Now is a good time to begin developing your knowledge in
this area. The internet is developing and will become increasingly effective
and if your you will have a definite advantage.
If you are running a small studio production pottery take a look at the
TSSA web site (The Small Studio Alliance) http://www.silverhawk.com/tssa
This has just recently gone on line and if you qualify as a member I'm can
build a site for you from under $200.
Right now I'm up to my ears building the 3rd Silverhawk Exhibition with 60
artist sites.
An example of one of the award sites can be seen at -
http://www.silverhawk.com/ex98/shaen/welcome.com
I'm only scratching the surface of what can be done on the web. If you would
like a candid view of the various alternatives give me a call. 505-758-8945
Have a good day!
Tyler Hannigan
Silverhawk Craft Realm
http://www.silverhawk.com/crafts
Berry Silverman wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Seems about time to tackle a website. I not inclined to do it myself,
> since other responsibilites call, as well. I am curious about how
> others have done this. Have you used the services of friends? Have
> you tried professional web designers? What seems to work best? And,
> importantly, do you feel you have had inquiries and/or sales as a
> result of your website? Also, has anyone had experience with
> wholesale sales on your website, as opposed to interested direct
> consumers? My main market is wholesale, but I don't want to be
> quoting wholesale prices on a website that retail purchasers have
> access to. How do you handle this?
>
> Berry Silverman in Tucson, where I sit inside on this Sunday,
> pondering all the big projects that need to get done, while sunlight
> blinks off the pool surface, tempting me, and the temperature hovers
> at 90+
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
--
Katheryn Corbin on tue 9 jun 98
Website advice:
learn HTML..it isn't hard and is alot more foolproof than the current web
authoring programs available and the price is right...FREE
I recommend webmonkey.com as the site with information on learning and
using HTML..it is an extension of wired.com, another great resource for web
information and authoring information
as for wholesale prices, I recommend including a PDF file on your site with
wholesale prices. I had this on my site but have since changed my work and
haven't updated my site with the new work and the wholesale prices. A PDF
file is easily made with Adobe Illustrator or may even be available in the
regular PDF format which is downloadable FREE from adobe.com. I am assuming
you have the use of a Mac which is the only way for me but I hear there is
a difference of opinion on this.
Another way to do wholesale is to have an email link for wholesale
information, the format I am currently using.
I have a few requests from my site, but I am still dangling in the
wholesale realm. I think the future will hold more possibilities.
Good luck and hey..go for it..spend a few sleepless nights trying to figure
out how to get that darned thing to work, it is great fun...obsession
should come naturally to anyone crazy enough to take clay seriously. Visit
the links on my site for my web gurus..I love their work.
Another tip..VIEW SOURCE
Your browser shows the HTML for the site you are viewing..download and
steal,I mean borrow. If you like my site..make it yours. Much like making
someone else's work, in the process you will see a little of what they see
and learn a heck of alot.
K
http://www.axisnet.net/~corbin
Ray Carlton on wed 10 jun 98
At 08:48 09/06/98 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dear Berry,
>
>First off I'm a web site builder and thus have a perspective a little
>different than some of your other responses. But I'm also an
>Artist/Craftsmen <<
hi tyler your second url resulted in a file not found...i would add to
tylers comments that a web site is easy to build if you want to spend a few
hours getting your head around one of the freware html editors such as
arachnophilia (ibm specific i think) if you cant find that time, Tylers
offer of setting up a site for a couple of hundred bucks sounds like
reasonable value. If you think that is a little steep we can organise one
here for quite a bit less than that. At the moment the aussie dollar is
worth 60 cents and that makes buying Australian made very economical I have
recently set up a site (check it out!) and would like to include some links
to other ceramicists sites. If you would like your site connected to mine
please email me your url. I will add any site to mine that can offer me a
link on their site..
cheers :) Ray Carlton
McMahons Creek Victoria Australia
Patrick S. Powell on thu 11 jun 98
About websites:
For your information:
Clayworld is an online publication for your reading enjoyment.
Clayworld is also a professional developer of websites with specific
emphasis on websites for the clay community (ceramic artists, clay
producers, etc.).
We also would like to hear your ideas about feature articles - or better yet
send us your articles (with color pictures please).
We would love to hear from you. Thank you ClayArt.
Patrick S. Powell
President
Clayworld, Inc.
PO Box 100
Hickory, KY 42051-0100
Voice phone: (502) 247-3849
Fax: (502) 247-1842
Email: pspowell@sunsix.infi.net
Website: www.clayworld.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Berry Silverman
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Date: Monday, June 08, 1998 8:52 AM
Subject: Websites
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Seems about time to tackle a website. I not inclined to do it myself,
since other responsibilites call, as well. I am curious about how
others have done this. Have you used the services of friends? Have
you tried professional web designers? What seems to work best? And,
importantly, do you feel you have had inquiries and/or sales as a
result of your website? Also, has anyone had experience with
wholesale sales on your website, as opposed to interested direct
consumers? My main market is wholesale, but I don't want to be
quoting wholesale prices on a website that retail purchasers have
access to. How do you handle this?
Berry Silverman in Tucson, where I sit inside on this Sunday,
pondering all the big projects that need to get done, while sunlight
blinks off the pool surface, tempting me, and the temperature hovers
at 90+
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
susanford on thu 11 jun 98
> hi tyler your second url resulted in a file not found...i would add to
> tylers comments that a web site is easy to build if you want to spend a few
> hours getting your head around one of the freware html editors such as
> arachnophilia (ibm specific i think) if you cant find that time
A good book for web publishing (I think) is Sams.net's
_Teach Yourself Web Publishing in a Week_. It actually
just took me a day to figure out what I needed to do for my
roses website.
I don't use any web authoring software, because ALL of them
add junk I don't want or need. I use good 'ole Windows
Notepad text editor. To make graphics load faster, use .jpg
format with 25% compression. It works well.
I'll be putting up a pottery website soon. I need to take
some pictures of my pots.
Susan
---
Susan K. Ford
Norman, Oklahoma
http://www.clueless.norman.ok.us/sf/rerhome.htm
Andrew Lubow on thu 19 nov 98
If it's a use to anyone. Here's a list of websites I've collected over time.
Ceramics
A.P. Green
http://www.apgreen.com/
Add Your own or Favorite Ceramic Link
http://apple.sdsu.edu/ceramicsweb/Userlink/userlinks.html
Aftosa Pottery =26 Supplies
http://www.aftosa.com/
Archie Bray Foundation
http://www.archiebray.org/
ArtScape
http://www.artscape.com/
Bath Potters Supply
http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk/
Carolina Clay
http://www.cclay.com/
Carolina Clay Glaze Recipes
http://www.cclay.com/glazes.htm
Ceramic Art and Concepts Magazine
http://www.ceramicart.com.au/
Ceramic Design by Ray Carlton
http://www.hotkey.net.au/=7Ercarlton/
Ceramic Drums
http://www.ninestones.com/burntearth.shtml
Ceramics Grand Prix 1999
http://www.sarreguemines-museum.com/CER99ENG.HTM
Ceramics Internet Relay Chat
http://apple.sdsu.edu/ceramicsweb/ircpotters.html
Ceramics Web (Great Sources of Info)
http://apple.sdsu.edu/ceramicsweb/index.html
ClayArt-Discussion By Subject
http://www.potters.org/categories.htm
Claynet
http://home.vicnet.net.au/=7Eclaynet/index.htm
Clayman
http://home.earthlink.net/=7Ecraigfull/
Claypeople
http://www.claypeople.net/
Clay Skies
http://www.highfiber.com/=7Eclaysky/
Clayworld.com
http://www.clayworld.com/
Clay Work-The Newsletter of the North Wales Potters
http://www.ftech.net/=7Ecarrog/claywork.htm
Contact Ceramics (Canadian Magazine)
http://www.cadvision.com/ceramics/
Robert Compton Pottery
http://www.robertcomptonpottery.com/
Dallas Visual Arts Center
http://www.udallas.edu/artdept/nceca98/dallas=2520visual=2520arts/dallas.htm
Don Carpentier's Pottery (Mochaware =2A=2AGreat Ideas Here=21=21=21=2A=2A
http://www.daats.com/eastfield/pottery/pottery.htm=23top
Ian Curie
http://ian.currie.list.to/index.html
Don Goodrich (has a Cone 6 Glaze List)
http://members.aol.com/goodrichdn/
Tim =26 Lori Wilkinson=92s Down To Earth Pottery
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/1165/
Digital Fire
http://www.digitalfire.com/
Earl=92s Ceramics
http://members.aol.com/brunnerec/
Euclid=92s Elements
http://www.euclids.com/
Fire Child Pottery
http://www.dimensional.com/=7Efirechld/FC.html
Fresno College Casted Kiln
http://www.mpgallery.com/kiln/kiln.htm
Galleri Thomasgaarden
http://home.sol.no/=7Etorghenr/index=5Fuk.htm
Gary Ferguson
http://netnow.micron.net/=7Egafergus/pottery.htm
Glaze Chem (Glaze Software)
http://www.mdc.net/=7Erjwilt/software/glzchem.htm
Goshen College Art Gallery
http://www.goshen.edu/art/exhsc98.htm
Gossett Pottery (Gallery =26 How to make Whistles)
http://home.att.net/=7Ecoolpotter/welcome.html
Frog Pond Pottery
http://www.frogpondpottery.com/
Terry Hagiwara
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/3755/
Roxi =26 Tony Hermson
http://www.jetstream.net/business/tonyh/
Dave Hendley Pottery
http://www.farmpots.com/
Dave Hewit Pottery
http://www.dhpot.demon.co.uk/
Ikiru Pottery
http://www.millcomm.com/=7Eleelove/ikiru.html
Stephen Mills
http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk/
Page d'=C9douard Bastarache
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/=7Eedouardb/
Peggy Heer
http://www.connect.ab.ca/=7Ep4337/
Kerameiki Techni -International Ceramic Art Review (Magazine)
http://www.connect.ab.ca/=7Eholonar/kerameiki/
Jonathan Kaplan
http://www.sni.net/ceramicdesign/
Judy Motzkin Flame Painted Ceramics =26 Jewelry
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/Mall/5543/
Louis Katz
http://www2.tamucc.edu/lkatz/lkatz/
Kilnray (Used Ceramic Equipment)
http://www.kilnray.com
Kilnsite
http://www.homepage.macomb.com/=7Egstengel/
L=26L Kilns
http://www.hotkilns.com/
Lindaberry
http://www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/longview/humanities/art/kiml/index2.htm
Living Tree Pottery =26 Soaps
http://www.uncg.edu/=7Elpskeen/
London Potter's Guild
http://www.coraltech.com/londonpotters/
Matt =26 Mary Lovein
http://www.aloha.net/=7Emlovein/
Mel Jacobson
http://www.pclink.com/melpots/
http://www.coraltech.com/londonpotters/
Michael McDowell Pottery
http://www2.memes.com/mmpots/
Mining Company =96 Ceramic Arts
http://ceramics.miningco.com/
Morgan Pitelka
http://www.princeton.edu/=7Empitelka/
Multilingual Dictionary of Potter=92s Words
http://www.mdc.net/=7Erjwilt/info/dict.htm
National Council on Education for the Ceramic Arts
http://www2.tamucc.edu/nceca/
Oaxacan Pottery
http://www.foothill.net/=7Emindling/
Ben Owen Pottery
http://www.cclay.com/bowen/index.htm
Penland School of Crafts
http://penland.org
Potter's Org
http://www.potters.org/
Pottery of Seagrove (N.C.)
http://typhoon.coedu.usf.edu/=7Emacdonal/Seagrove/pottery.html
Pottery Tips
http://www.camasnet.com/=7Easondahl/potterytips.html
Raku Glaze Recipes
http://netnow.micron.net/=7Egafergus/rakuglaz.htm
Raku By Jan Hurd
http://tscnet.com/=7Ejanh/
Reference.com (Clayart Search Engine)
http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=3Dclayart=40lsv.uky.edu
Gaynor Reeve
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/9125/
Charles Riggs Pottery
http://www.cclay.com/criggs/index.htm
Rosedale Street Pottery (Kickwheel =26 Kiln Plan)
http://www.ozemail.com.au/=7Esmithl/
Silver Creek Pottery
http://www.execpc.com/=7Emondfam/
Brad Sondahl
http://www.camasnet.com/=7Easondahl/bradindex.html
Southern Clayworks
http://www.siu.edu/=7Eartdesn/southernclay/southernclay.htm
Jo Ann Steven=92s Down To Earth Pottery
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2787/index.html
Studio Potter
http://www.studiopotter.org
Toshiko Takaezu
http://www.biwa.or.jp/=7Eshiho/toshiko.html
John Tilton
http://www.tiltonpottery.com/
Thistle Hill Pottery
http://www.vermontcrafts.com/members/JenniBoy892.html
Vermont Crafts Council
http://www.vermontcrafts.com/index.html
Willow Tree Pottery
http://members.tripod.com/=7Ekmcd3/
Yahoo Ceramics List
http://www.yahoo.com/Arts/Ceramics
http://members.aol.com/clayncolor
http://www.artoz.com/sodaglaze/
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/=7Easm
http://members.wbs.net/homepages/j/o/e/joeybird.html
http://www.web2u.com and click on Homo Clayartus
http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/=7Emarsu/kalkspatz/
http://fmc.utm.edu/=7Edmcbeth/cag/naples.htm
http://www.camasnet.com/=7Easondahl
http://www.peak.org/=7Epatek/potsindx.htm
http://www.whistlepig.com/claytimes/
http://www.ceramics.com/
http://www.vicnet.net.au/=7Eclaynet/cercon.html
http://www.pottery.demon.co.uk.
http://www.aftosa.com
http://www.tamucc.edu/=7Elkatz/
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/rsieck/
http://www.art.uiuc.edu/tea/mainTOC.html
http://www.art.acad.emich.edu
http://www.cadvision.com/ceramics/
http://slashmc.rice.edu/marylaw/marylawpottery.html
http://www.tiac.net/users/rjw/gbpage.htm
http://www.japan-net.or.jp/=7Eiwcat
http://www.artscape.com
http://www.nancee-meeker.com
http://www.cclay.com/glazes.htm
http://members.aol.com/martinb888/page1,htm
http://www.imt.net/=7Emjbmls/
http://www.aimnet.com/=7Etcolson/webtiles.htm
http://fmc.utm.edu/=7Edmcbeth/dmcbeth.htm
http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mhsu/clinks.html
http://www.cwin.com/chome/redhen/PGuild/
http://www.jetstream.net/users/thermsen
http://www.gold.net/users/dj94/creview.html
http://www.arts.ufl.edu/nceca/
http://www.caverns.com/=7Ecatiline/cerref1.htm
http://www.wam.umd.edu.=5C=7Ehjm=5Cglazeid.html
http:=5C=5Cwww.wam.umd.edu.=5C=7Ehjm=5Cglazes4.html
http://www.mipana.com/
http://www.amug.org/=7Emishlowe/FAQs
http://www.fmhs.cnyric.org/clay/community/everson/
http://www.worldstar.com/=7Estonart/welcome.html
http://humanarts.com/emilypearlman
http://www.craftweb.com/org/pearlman/pearlman.htm
http://arts.endow.gov/ RS
http://www.libertynet.org/=7Eclaystdo
http://www.discribe.ca/powning
http://www.CraftWEB.com/org/jbaymore/rivrbend.shtml
http://www.missouri.edu/=7Emuck/jeff
http://apple.sdsu.edu/ceramicsweb/ceramicsweb.html
http://www.nau.edu/=7Ecca/tozan.html
http://www.biwa.or.jp/=7Eshiho/
http://texaswest.com/ceramics/1winners.htm=23top
http://www.libertynet.org:90/=7Epmacraft/index.html
http://www.nmaa.si.edu/whc/whcmainpage.html
http://www.iflyfish.com/brodnax/
http://www.geocities.com/paris/3110
Iris Jewett on fri 16 feb 01
Hi. I am new to this group and love reading all the messages. We make =
artisan tiles and the pains we
have are in our hands and not our hips. My question is: Does anyone =
take VISA on their
website and what service are you using? We have been using =
Freemerchant, which is
no longer free. Iris
mel jacobson on wed 11 sep 02
very important, very.
if you are going to go to the work and time
to build a website, make sure your name is secure,
an your site will stay up.
i just went through that struggle.
been with pclink for 10 years...and all
of a sudden, sold twice.
now have corre.com
they changed the address for all of the websites.
WELL ISN'T THAT GRAND. NOTHING WORKS, AND
GOOGLE HAS ME LISTED OVER AND OVER, BUT THE
WRONG ADDRESS.
anyway.
they switched me back to two address'.
after a great deal of trouble.
make sure,
get it right.
and make it stay.
don't be afraid to pay a bit more.
it pays you back.
losing your connection to search engines is like
cutting off your leg.
mel
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: my.pclink.com/~melpots
or try: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
Meryl Ruth on sun 7 aug 05
Hi There,=20
Can you please give me information about the setting up of a good =
website. I am now part of other organization's websites but would like =
to have my own finally. Can you suggest good people to turn to for help =
with creating my own? I live in Maine.=20
Thank you,=20
Meryl
Alisa Liskin Clausen on sun 7 aug 05
I think you should contact Gail Phillips. She is both a potter and a web
designer. An excellent combination to make website for ceramists. Her
web page is found at
http://home.att.net/~phillipsjm/
At the bottom of the page you can see examples of her work. She just
finished Kurt Wilds and it is lovely. She and I are getting ready to get
finished with my virtual glaze notebook. Soon to be announced!
Regards from Alisa in Denmark
Jim Willett on mon 8 aug 05
I'm sure you will get a lot of suggestions however one designer who has
really impressed me is http://lafayettecoppola.com/web_design.htm He has
done the web site design for Joan Lederman http://www.thesoftearth.com/
among others. His contact information is on his page. I don't know him
personally but his work impressed me from the first time I visited Joan's
site.
Jim
Out of the Fire Studio
Edmonton, Alberta
http://www.outofthefirestudio.com
http://potblog.outofthefirestudio.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Meryl Ruth
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:35 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: websites
Hi There,
Can you please give me information about the setting up of a good website. I
am now part of other organization's websites but would like to have my own
finally. Can you suggest good people to turn to for help with creating my
own? I live in Maine.
Thank you,
Meryl
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Jennifer Boyer on mon 8 aug 05
I love the look of this web site, and it's a fascinating clay process.
Hey, web geeks out there: This site, main page and all, doesn't seem to
mention Joan Lederman's actual name at all until deep in the site in
the articles section. I found it in the metatag keyword list of the
home page. I'd heard that search engines aren't paying attention to
keywords any more, but Joan's web site pops right up at the top of the
list in Google. So Google must like that keyword list! Also there
wasn't any text to speak of on the home page, another no-no in web
design. Am I missing something? Is she only being found because of her
metatags?
Jennifer
On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Jim Willett wrote:
> I'm sure you will get a lot of suggestions however one designer who has
> really impressed me is http://lafayettecoppola.com/web_design.htm He
> has
> done the web site design for Joan Lederman http://www.thesoftearth.com/
> among others. His contact information is on his page. I don't know him
> personally but his work impressed me from the first time I visited
> Joan's
> site.
>
> Jim
> Out of the Fire Studio
> Edmonton, Alberta
> http://www.outofthefirestudio.com
> http://potblog.outofthefirestudio.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Meryl Ruth
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:35 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: websites
>
> Hi There,
> Can you please give me information about the setting up of a good
> website. I
> am now part of other organization's websites but would like to have my
> own
> finally. Can you suggest good people to turn to for help with creating
> my
> own? I live in Maine.
>
> Thank you,
> Meryl
>
************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
UU KRC on mon 8 aug 05
As with most visual media there are no hard and fast
rules with web design. I can't answer your question
about metatags for two reasons, first I've been away
from web design for a while and second because web
crawlers and search engines have been complicated
beasts for a long time now.
Back to your question about no text and other web page
no-no's: Those rules you find in books and classes on
how to do web design are ment to teach you some of the
follies that plagued early, designless web content.
They are suggestions on how to make your site
accessable and friendly. However, they can be
stretched and broken if you know about the use of the
site. Joan Lederman's site is a VERY specialized site.
People who find themselves there are their because
they know some of the basic things about her. Your
audience can make a huge difference in your approach
to web design.
I won't go much farther with this thought. Consider
this before I close. If you are looking for a
Starbucks and you get to a door that says "Scrap Iron
sold HERE" you know your at the wrong place. A lot of
pages and sites now have this kind of a "DOOR"
concept. A page that is nothing more than signage to
let you know where you are before you get inside and
your yuppy kakis get all dirty.
Just a thought,
Jared
(jonesing for some clay in Central WA)
--- Jennifer Boyer wrote:
> I love the look of this web site, and it's a
> fascinating clay process.
> Hey, web geeks out there: This site, main page and
> all, doesn't seem to
> mention Joan Lederman's actual name at all until
> deep in the site in
> the articles section. I found it in the metatag
> keyword list of the
> home page. I'd heard that search engines aren't
> paying attention to
> keywords any more, but Joan's web site pops right up
> at the top of the
> list in Google. So Google must like that keyword
> list! Also there
> wasn't any text to speak of on the home page,
> another no-no in web
> design. Am I missing something? Is she only being
> found because of her
> metatags?
>
> Jennifer
>
> On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Jim Willett wrote:
>
> > I'm sure you will get a lot of suggestions however
> one designer who has
> > really impressed me is
> http://lafayettecoppola.com/web_design.htm He
> > has
> > done the web site design for Joan Lederman
> http://www.thesoftearth.com/
> > among others. His contact information is on his
> page. I don't know him
> > personally but his work impressed me from the
> first time I visited
> > Joan's
> > site.
> >
> > Jim
> > Out of the Fire Studio
> > Edmonton, Alberta
> > http://www.outofthefirestudio.com
> > http://potblog.outofthefirestudio.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On
> Behalf Of Meryl Ruth
> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:35 PM
> > To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> > Subject: websites
> >
> > Hi There,
> > Can you please give me information about the
> setting up of a good
> > website. I
> > am now part of other organization's websites but
> would like to have my
> > own
> > finally. Can you suggest good people to turn to
> for help with creating
> > my
> > own? I live in Maine.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Meryl
> >
> ************************
> Jennifer Boyer
> Thistle Hill Pottery
> Montpelier, VT
>
> http://thistlehillpottery.com
>
>
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Stephani Stephenson on wed 2 aug 06
the website has been absolutely invaluable for me, as an information
tool and as a sales generator.
Though I haven't tallied it, most years web sales have provide most of
my income.
I will say, for reasons unknown,( perhaps the growth of Spam and
internet fraud?)... website
communication and sales dropped last year... but for me, all it takes
are a few good projects...
the largest projects have come via my website, from other parts of
the country, even other countries.
however , I have not been at this location very long, and each year,
the local business increases.
local business, walk in business, word of mouth is great, wonderful
but the internet has been a fabulous tool for a new business.
I do my own site. I am still using an old version of Netscape
Communicator to put it together.
I have a mac and use a nifty software called Transmit to upload my ftp
files to the internet.
Right now I am still with Earthlink and probably paying too much per
month for my site (about $ 30)
I need to switch , as there are ones much cheaper... but I am use to
Earthlink... and I always underestimate the time needed to switch...
keep thinking there will be a 'quiet' moment for me to do so...not yet!
Stephani Stephenson
steph@revivaltileworks.com
http://www.revivaltileworks.com
Craig Clark on thu 3 aug 06
Check out "Go Daddy" , they have a number of different sizes, shapes and
flavors. All for considerably less than what you are currently paying.
Hope this helps
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 St
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
Stephani Stephenson wrote:
> the website has been absolutely invaluable for me, as an information
> tool and as a sales generator.
> Though I haven't tallied it, most years web sales have provide most of
> my income.
>
> I will say, for reasons unknown,( perhaps the growth of Spam and
> internet fraud?)... website
> communication and sales dropped last year... but for me, all it takes
> are a few good projects...
> the largest projects have come via my website, from other parts of
> the country, even other countries.
>
> however , I have not been at this location very long, and each year,
> the local business increases.
> local business, walk in business, word of mouth is great, wonderful
> but the internet has been a fabulous tool for a new business.
>
> I do my own site. I am still using an old version of Netscape
> Communicator to put it together.
> I have a mac and use a nifty software called Transmit to upload my ftp
> files to the internet.
>
> Right now I am still with Earthlink and probably paying too much per
> month for my site (about $ 30)
> I need to switch , as there are ones much cheaper... but I am use to
> Earthlink... and I always underestimate the time needed to switch...
> keep thinking there will be a 'quiet' moment for me to do so...not yet!
>
> Stephani Stephenson
> steph@revivaltileworks.com
> http://www.revivaltileworks.com
>
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David Hendley on thu 3 aug 06
Go Daddy used to be pretty inexpensive. They have steadily
raised their prices and are now in the "mid-range" of pricing.
My hosting company, 1 & 1, beats everyone on price.
Domain registration is $5.99 a year.
Hosting AND domain registration is $35.88 a YEAR
($2.99 a month, payable at 6 month intervals).
They are now having a 25% off sale, which makes it $2.24
a month or $26.88 a year.
Service is good - toll-free 24-hour help line (Go Daddy is a
toll call). There is usually only a minute or two hold
time. The call center is in the Philippines, so it is sometimes
a little hard to understand non-native English speakers,
but they are patient.
1 & 1 is a HUGE company that started in Europe and claims
to be the biggest hosting company in the world.
Check out a PC magazine - they usually have multi-page ads
with side-by-side comparisons with Go Daddy and Yahoo.
http://order.1and1.com/
Also, Craig's ISP, hal-pc.org, is an excellent ISP.
It stands for Houston Area League of PC users. This is
a non-profit organization that now has phone numbers
nation-wide. Dial-up is $10 a month. Service is excellent.
The toll-free number is not 24-hour, but you will talk to
a friendly person in Houston when you call. If you live
in Houston, they have lots of free classes at their offices.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david@farmpots.com
www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
> Check out "Go Daddy" , they have a number of different sizes, shapes and
> flavors. All for considerably less than what you are currently paying.
>
> Hope this helps
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 St
> Houston, Texas 77008
> (713)861-2083
> mudman@hal-pc.org
>
>
> >> Right now I am still with Earthlink and probably paying too much per
>> month for my site (about $ 30)
>> I need to switch , as there are ones much cheaper... but I am use to
>> Earthlink... and I always underestimate the time needed to switch...
>> keep thinking there will be a 'quiet' moment for me to do so...not yet!
Wendy Kelsey on thu 3 aug 06
Well I have to say I love GoDaddy and to me if it is a wee
bit more it is worth it. The service and "reminders" are
great.
I think I can beat your price lol. $23.50 a year, includes
lots of free things, including domain registration. It is
Edatarack. I have been using them for years. The only
down side is assistance is via a help desk email system.
But I always get answers within a couple of hours so no
complaints there.
http://www.edatarack.com/promo.html
Give them a try!
--- David Hendley wrote:
> Go Daddy used to be pretty inexpensive. They have
> steadily
> raised their prices and are now in the "mid-range" of
> pricing.
> My hosting company, 1 & 1, beats everyone on price.
> Domain registration is $5.99 a year.
> Hosting AND domain registration is $35.88 a YEAR
> ($2.99 a month, payable at 6 month intervals).
> They are now having a 25% off sale, which makes it $2.24
> a month or $26.88 a year.
>
> Service is good - toll-free 24-hour help line (Go Daddy
> is a
> toll call). There is usually only a minute or two hold
> time. The call center is in the Philippines, so it is
> sometimes
> a little hard to understand non-native English speakers,
> but they are patient.
> 1 & 1 is a HUGE company that started in Europe and claims
> to be the biggest hosting company in the world.
> Check out a PC magazine - they usually have multi-page
> ads
> with side-by-side comparisons with Go Daddy and Yahoo.
> http://order.1and1.com/
>
> Also, Craig's ISP, hal-pc.org, is an excellent ISP.
> It stands for Houston Area League of PC users. This is
> a non-profit organization that now has phone numbers
> nation-wide. Dial-up is $10 a month. Service is
> excellent.
> The toll-free number is not 24-hour, but you will talk to
> a friendly person in Houston when you call. If you live
> in Houston, they have lots of free classes at their
> offices.
>
> David Hendley
> Maydelle, Texas
> david@farmpots.com
> www.farmpots.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Check out "Go Daddy" , they have a number of different
> sizes, shapes and
> > flavors. All for considerably less than what you are
> currently paying.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > Craig Dunn Clark
> > 619 East 11 1/2 St
> > Houston, Texas 77008
> > (713)861-2083
> > mudman@hal-pc.org
> >
> >
>
> > >> Right now I am still with Earthlink and probably
> paying too much per
> >> month for my site (about $ 30)
> >> I need to switch , as there are ones much cheaper...
> but I am use to
> >> Earthlink... and I always underestimate the time
> needed to switch...
> >> keep thinking there will be a 'quiet' moment for me to
> do so...not yet!
>
>
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Operations Manager
Martini Ceramics
Custom Tile and Ceramic Arts
1272 Paradise Cove
Ferndale, WA 98248-9469
Telephone: 360-392-8607
Fax: 832-550-4856
Ann Kenworthy on fri 13 apr 12
Hi, all,
I've jut had the most frustrating experience!
A man would describe it like this: I tried to build a website using the
Apple website application on my MAC and they have discontinued the mobileme
service. I have to find another service to host the site. Does anyone
have suggestions?
A woman (me) would say: I worked for hours to build this site, agonized
over the photos, text and placement, and especially the about me portion of
the website, and those jerks don't let me press a button and get it done.
Plus it was so great and easy to use a chimpanzee (me) could use it. Does
anyone have any suggestions for a hosting service?
Thanks in advance for any help you (either men or women) can give.
Ann
--
Ann C. Kenworthy
Ann Kenworthy Pottery, LLC
410-507-1992
annk201@gmail.com
John Post on fri 13 apr 12
Hi Ann,
I host my site on GoDaddy for 5 bucks a month. My son hosts his site
there too, but he pays for a year at a time and gets a small price
break for paying in advance.
As for me, I'm not sure if this internet thing is going to catch on or
not, so that's why I pay by the month.
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
http://www.johnpost.us
Follow me on Twitter
https://twitter.com/UCSArtTeacher
On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Ann Kenworthy wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> I've jut had the most frustrating experience!
>
> A man would describe it like this: I tried to build a website using
> the
> Apple website application on my MAC and they have discontinued the
> mobileme
> service. I have to find another service to host the site. Does
> anyone
> have suggestions?
>
> A woman (me) would say: I worked for hours to build this site,
> agonized
> over the photos, text and placement, and especially the about me
> portion of
> the website, and those jerks don't let me press a button and get it
> done.
> Plus it was so great and easy to use a chimpanzee (me) could use
> it. Does
> anyone have any suggestions for a hosting service?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you (either men or women) can give.
>
> Ann
>
> --
> Ann C. Kenworthy
> Ann Kenworthy Pottery, LLC
> 410-507-1992
> annk201@gmail.com
Kathy Forer on sat 14 apr 12
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4686 describes how to peel your next =3D
chimpanzee banana.
Try Google is your friend, http://bit.ly/Ik48yj to learn more.
=3D
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/13/ten-ways-to-replace-iweb-and-mobileme-hosti=
=3D
ng/ gives alternatives to traditional hosting. Dropbox hosting looks =3D
interesting.=3D20
The thing about making a website is the relationship of content and =3D
design. Once you've chosen your photos, and written your stuff, it's =3D
pretty portable. You can move to another publishing platform, use =3D
entirely different software, or not, and replicate your layout and =3D
design, or make something new.=3D20
I am partial to Dreamhost.com. Pricing and options are excellent. They =3D
were hit by some hackers and then a nasty bit of malware a couple months =
=3D
back, much as godaddy was attacked a couple years ago, and they =3D
responded pretty well to cleaning it up. No fun for those whose sites =3D
had security gaps, but they helped lock it down. Nice people.=3D20
June 30, 2012 is last day for MobileMe.
Kathy Forer
www.foreverink.com
On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Ann Kenworthy wrote:
> I've jut had the most frustrating experience!
>=3D20
> A man would describe it like this: I tried to build a website using =3D
the
> Apple website application on my MAC and they have discontinued the =3D
mobileme
> service. I have to find another service to host the site. Does =3D
anyone
> have suggestions?
>=3D20
> A woman (me) would say: I worked for hours to build this site, =3D
agonized
> over the photos, text and placement, and especially the about me =3D
portion of
> the website, and those jerks don't let me press a button and get it =3D
done.
> Plus it was so great and easy to use a chimpanzee (me) could use it. =3D
Does
> anyone have any suggestions for a hosting service?
>=3D20
> Thanks in advance for any help you (either men or women) can give.
Chris Larson Renquist on mon 16 apr 12
A couple sites that may be of help:
1. *http://wordpress.org/ *-- From their homepage: * "WordPress **is web
software you can use to create a beautiful website or blog. We like to say
that WordPress is both free and priceless at the same time."* Currently,
I use Google's blogspot, but am considering moving to wordpress because of
hearing how good it is.
2. *http://lifehacker.com/ -- *They call it: *"*tips and downloads for
getting things done". I subscribe to their daily email, and have picked up
a lot of helpful info.
Best wishes.
Peace,
Chris
Chris Larson Renquist
potterybychris.blogspot.com
"Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind
of battle." - James Barrie and others * paraphrase of Plato
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Kathy Forer wrote:
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4686 describes how to peel your next
> chimpanzee banana.
>
> Try Google is your friend, http://bit.ly/Ik48yj to learn more.
>
>
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/13/ten-ways-to-replace-iweb-and-mobileme-host=
ing/gives alternatives to traditional hosting. Dropbox hosting looks
> interesting.
>
> The thing about making a website is the relationship of content and
> design. Once you've chosen your photos, and written your stuff, it's pret=
ty
> portable. You can move to another publishing platform, use entirely
> different software, or not, and replicate your layout and design, or make
> something new.
>
> I am partial to Dreamhost.com. Pricing and options are excellent. They
> were hit by some hackers and then a nasty bit of malware a couple months
> back, much as godaddy was attacked a couple years ago, and they responded
> pretty well to cleaning it up. No fun for those whose sites had security
> gaps, but they helped lock it down. Nice people.
>
> June 30, 2012 is last day for MobileMe.
>
>
> Kathy Forer
> www.foreverink.com
>
> On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Ann Kenworthy wrote:
>
> > I've jut had the most frustrating experience!
> >
> > A man would describe it like this: I tried to build a website using th=
e
> > Apple website application on my MAC and they have discontinued the
> mobileme
> > service. I have to find another service to host the site. Does anyone
> > have suggestions?
> >
> > A woman (me) would say: I worked for hours to build this site, agonize=
d
> > over the photos, text and placement, and especially the about me portio=
n
> of
> > the website, and those jerks don't let me press a button and get it don=
e.
> > Plus it was so great and easy to use a chimpanzee (me) could use it.
> Does
> > anyone have any suggestions for a hosting service?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help you (either men or women) can give.
>
Neil Estrick on tue 17 apr 12
I used to use GoDaddy, but their online builder got so buggy I couldn't s=
=3D
tand it.=3D20
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=3D
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=3D
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since switching over a year ago.
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=3D
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probably the cheapest, and they do a good job of keeping everything up. M=
=3D
y site=3D20
never went down with them, I just needed a better building program.
John Goode on tue 17 apr 12
try One and one .com I have never had a mistake in 10 years!!!
EZ....johnny
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Neil Estrick
wrote:
> I used to use GoDaddy, but their online builder got so buggy I couldn't
> stand it.
> After trying out half a dozen others, I settled on Intuit. Their online
> site builder
> is incredibly simple to use, and I haven't had any trouble with them or m=
y
> site
> since switching over a year ago.
>
> If you don't need an online site builder, just someone to host it, GoDadd=
y
> is
> probably the cheapest, and they do a good job of keeping everything up. M=
y
> site
> never went down with them, I just needed a better building program.
>
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