Lorca Beebe on fri 12 jun 98
It is interesting to me that many clay people are still drawing a severe
distinction between svraft and art, maybe some of you missed my diatribe about
painters going on and on about there craft, they do get into lofty
philosophical ideas, and some unenlightened artist think that art today has no
craft, this perhaps is a product of the 80's where corporate collections
bought a lot of work that is now falling apart.
I think that we need to get some concepts straight we seem to be talking about
craft as in all the technicalities that go into making a "piece", craft may or
may not render a "precious object", next is the issue of virtuosity that seems
to be mixed into the definition of art in several posts. Virtousity,
Originality and Authenticity are serious contested issues within the last
maybe 20 years and are all products of Euro-Trash...
Design and Formal elements can be learned, the trained artist is still a
craftperson in many ways, a fine arts education gives you "tricks of the
trade", some else in a previous rant talked about Art degrees being a dime a
dozen, this is true, towards the end of my jail sentence as a MFA, I would
intentionally put up works in critics that had all the craft of high art, it
was formal, conceptual, it was slick, and everybody eat it up, to which they
did know they had all got big fat F's as they failed my intelligence test, I
was fond of saying "Are we just going to be monkeys dancing on the accordion,
or are we going to be ourselves". I think that the most difficult thing is to
be true to oneself and ones personal vision...
The biggest problem within the arts and particularly in clay is that we have
to confront out PRE-CONCEIVED idea of what art is and what we should be
making. I pay close attention to the pieces that I make and make me want to
throw up...
Lorca
Dan Wilson on sun 14 jun 98
Lorca,
you said:
> Virtousity,
>Originality and Authenticity are serious contested issues within the last
>maybe 20 years and are all products of Euro-Trash...
These three ideas. Are they not more closely related to the modernist
notion of indeterminancy? A reaction to Ab-Ex?
Dan Wilson
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