Cheryl L Litman on fri 19 jun 98
Sunday's NY Times art section had a conversation with David Bowie who has
evidently been painting for some time now and finally feels comfortable
enough to start putting his work "out there". How do all you art vs
craft people feel about what he has to say on the difference between the
music and art world?
"...success in art seems to be a lot more about knowing and buttering up
to a few people. If a visual artist is articulate about his work, he can
tell collectors what to think about what they're buying. People won't
sit still to hear a rock musician say why someone should spend 15 bucks
on his album. You can't get away with much in rock without somebody
saying "You got to be kidding me.". You're not talking about 20 people;
you're talking in hundreds of thousands, if you're lucky, and so a
consensus forms about the music."
Cheryl Litman
Somerset, NJ
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Marcia Selsor on sat 20 jun 98
David Bowie bought a ceramic sculpture from Hiro at his NY show. I think in
his statement perhaps he is focusing more on his familiarity with the music
business and less with his familiarity with the art bizz.
I do think that P.R. and self representation/marketing is overshadowing the
personal comittment to exploration. Artists in Gallery "stables" are often
constrained to produce their recognizable style for collectors.
Marcia in Montana
Cheryl L Litman wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Sunday's NY Times art section had a conversation with David Bowie who has
> evidently been painting for some time now and finally feels comfortable
> enough to start putting his work "out there". How do all you art vs
> craft people feel about what he has to say on the difference between the
> music and art world?
>
> "...success in art seems to be a lot more about knowing and buttering up
> to a few people. If a visual artist is articulate about his work, he can
> tell collectors what to think about what they're buying. People won't
> sit still to hear a rock musician say why someone should spend 15 bucks
> on his album. You can't get away with much in rock without somebody
> saying "You got to be kidding me.". You're not talking about 20 people;
> you're talking in hundreds of thousands, if you're lucky, and so a
> consensus forms about the music."
>
> Cheryl Litman
> Somerset, NJ
> email: cheryllitman@juno.com
>
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Dan Wilson on sun 21 jun 98
Cheryl,
I'm a firm believer in the notion of crap appealing to the largest
audience. The notion that Art must by its nature form a "consensus:1. An
opinion or position reached by a group as a whole or by majority will." in
order to be viable flys in the face of what I believe art is or should be.
Art should inform. It is information which when properly conveyed
transcends the known (consensus) revealing new truths. It is information
which when properly conveyed transcends the known (consensus) revealing new
truths. For example: When Jimmy Hendrix hit the scene nobody thought you
could do that with a guitar. It was information which when properly
conveyed transcended the known (consensus) revealing new truths. Thats art.
When Peter V. did his thing nobody thought you could do that with clay. It
was information which when properly conveyed transcended the known
(consensus) revealing new truths. Thats art. On the other hand, crap
repeats whats already known. Affirms our oneness of mind. Makes us
comfortable with each other. Pleases our senses. That is the goal of crap.
Yikes!
Dan Wilson
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Sunday's NY Times art section had a conversation with David Bowie who has
>evidently been painting for some time now and finally feels comfortable
>enough to start putting his work "out there". How do all you art vs
>craft people feel about what he has to say on the difference between the
>music and art world?
>
>"...success in art seems to be a lot more about knowing and buttering up
>to a few people. If a visual artist is articulate about his work, he can
>tell collectors what to think about what they're buying. People won't
>sit still to hear a rock musician say why someone should spend 15 bucks
>on his album. You can't get away with much in rock without somebody
>saying "You got to be kidding me.". You're not talking about 20 people;
>you're talking in hundreds of thousands, if you're lucky, and so a
>consensus forms about the music."
>
>Cheryl Litman
>Somerset, NJ
>email: cheryllitman@juno.com
>
>
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>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
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