Terrance Lazaroff on sun 5 jul 98
Hi all;
I am afraid that I am loosing my memory. Does anyone out there know where
the Word Celadon orginated. I believe it is a French word that came out of
the theatre but I am unsure. It would be most helpfur if anyone can give me
some leads to research on this subject.
Terrance Frank Lazaroff
St Hubert, Quebec
Dan Wilson on mon 6 jul 98
Terrance,
The Chinese word for celadon is "qingci" which means "greenish porcelain"
Perhaps the best known Sung pottery is the celadon. The glaze was likened
to young onion sprouts by the Chinese. In the color and the smooth texture
of the glaze the celadons are not unlike jade and may have originated in an
attempt to reproduce the more valuable stone in a less expensive medium. If
a person wanted to compliment a potter highly upon his vase, he would tell
him that it looked like jade. (Quote)
Hellen Gardner, Art through the ages. Harcourt and Brace and Company. New
York. 1936.
European ships first arrived in Chinese waters circa 1513 and soon
thereafter (1518) E. Aisain Porcelain is imported to Europe.
First imitations of chinese Porcelain made in Venice and Florence Circa 1575.
Celadon was the hero of the French writer Honore d'Urfe's romance
L'Astree (1610), the lover of the heroine Astree. He was presented as a
young man in green and his dress became all the rage in Europe. And it
was just about this time that the Chinese qingci made its debut in Paris
and won acclaim. People compared its colour to Celadon's suit and
started to call the porcelain 'celadon' a name which has stayed and
spread to other countries.
Miriam Websters dictionary:
Celadon: Etymology French meaning Greyish yellow-green
Cele: From the Greek Koilos meaning hollow-- Cavity or hollow space and the
Latin
don : to put on as a garment.
Hope this gets you started.
Dan Wilson
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi all;
>
>I am afraid that I am loosing my memory. Does anyone out there know where
>the Word Celadon orginated. I believe it is a French word that came out of
>the theatre but I am unsure. It would be most helpfur if anyone can give me
>some leads to research on this subject.
>
>Terrance Frank Lazaroff
>St Hubert, Quebec
Katy Sheridan on mon 6 jul 98
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At 01:08 PM 7/5/98 EDT, you wrote:
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=3E---snip--------Does anyone out there know where
=3Ethe Word Celadon orginated. I believe it is a French word that came out =
of
=3Ethe theatre but I am unsure. It would be most helpfur if anyone can =
give me
=3Esome leads to research on this subject.
=3E
=3ETerrance Frank Lazarof
=3ESt Hubert, Quebec
According to my copy of the Compact Edition of the Oxford English =
Dictionary:
=22celadon - Fr - according to Littr=E9 the color was named after Celadon, a
character
in D'Urf=E9's romance of 'Astr=E9e'. It is the name of a pale shade of green
resembling that of the willow=22
Terrance, Socrates and I disagree on this advice but I think you could go
easy on yourself. You really dont have to memorize this stuff. This is why
we have dictionaries.
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Katy Sheridan
1419 Scott Street
El Cerrito, CA 94530-2251
Caroline and Hedley Saunders on mon 6 jul 98
Hamer in The Potter's Dictionary of Materials and Techniques says the name
was derived from Celadon (with an accent over the e), a shepherd in the 17th
century French play L'Astree (accent over first e) who wore grey - green
ribbons and a cloak.
Caroline
Xdelphin@eclipse.co.uk
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>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi all;
>
>I am afraid that I am loosing my memory. Does anyone out there know where
>the Word Celadon orginated. I believe it is a French word that came out of
>the theatre but I am unsure. It would be most helpfur if anyone can give
me
>some leads to research on this subject.
>
>Terrance Frank Lazaroff
>St Hubert, Quebec
>
Edouard Bastarache on mon 6 jul 98
Allo Terry,
here is what Robert Fournier says about the origin of celadon in his
Illustrated Dictionary of Practical Pottery:
"The general name given to a solution color range of subtle green to
blue-gray stoneware
and porcelain glazes, deriving from iron in reduction.
The name is said to originate,somewhat inconsequently,from a character in
French classic
drama who wore green clothes."(page 47)
Later,
Edouard Bastarache
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouard/
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> De : Terrance Lazaroff
> A : Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
> Objet : Celadon the word
> Date : 5 juillet, 1998 13:08
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi all;
>
> I am afraid that I am loosing my memory. Does anyone out there know
where
> the Word Celadon orginated. I believe it is a French word that came out
of
> the theatre but I am unsure. It would be most helpfur if anyone can
give me
> some leads to research on this subject.
>
> Terrance Frank Lazaroff
> St Hubert, Quebec
JCooper on mon 6 jul 98
cel a don (sel don , -dn) n.1. any of several Chinese porcelains
having a translucent, pale green glaze. 2. any porcelain imitating
these. 3. a pale gray-green. adj.4. having the color celadon.
[1760 70; named after Ciladon, name of a character in L' Astrie, a tale
by H. d'Urfi (1568 1625) , French writer]
Copyright ) 1966-1994 by Random House Inc., All Rights Reserved.
John Britt on tue 7 jul 98
I think Pete Pinnell talks about it in his article in Clay Times this
month. The article is on celadons. Something to do with a shepard and
the color of his shirt...
--
John Britt claydude@unicomp.net
Dys-Functional Pottery
Dallas, Texas
http://www.dysfunctionalpottery.com/claydude
Lorca Beebe on tue 7 jul 98
New terms that beginers are using in our department imparted by my beloved
studio mate Sayaka:
Ceradon
Terra Sigeratter-This is japanese accent with a New England twist.
Other words now revised and accepted are Actuary and Instaration, we cant say
it any other way...
In addition all my students end up with Afro-American....
Lorca
Lorca Beebe on fri 10 jul 98
The Hirshhorn had an exhibit a year ago of this Korean painter, forget his
name his kinda of a hot shot in the art world know caused a senstion at the
Whitney because he did paintings of peoples skin tones, the exhibit at the
Hirshhorn where at least more than a dozen huge canvas focusing on different
shades of Celadon, now I'm not one for minimalism but this show kinda of
sparked something in me both conceptually and visually.....
Lorca
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