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garbage can saggars

updated mon 10 aug 98

 

Russel Fouts on wed 5 aug 98

JoAnn,

>> I make them in newspaper lined buckets for individual pots. paper burns
off afterwards (I'm lazy). <<

I do much the same thing as Steve except I use dry cleaner plastic, lay the
plastic over the opening of a 70 liter garbage can, "throw" a slab, lay the
slab over the mouth of the can on the plastic and work it around until it's
ready to ease down into the bottom of the can. (the bottom diameter fits my
kiln perfectly). Then I beat the clay all around with a clay "hammer" I
made. I let them get leather hard in the can, pull them out and finish them.
Depending on the size slab you use you can get a sagger of just about any
height.

Steve's idea of newspaper might work better because it would also wick some
of the moisture out making them dry a bit quicker. Steve, how do you keep
the newspaper from getting in the folds of the clay?

I've also made saggars by putting slabs of clay over inverted flower pots.
Be sure to beat them really well. Then when they are "cheese" hard, beat
them again all around again, this expands the clay a little more and they
come right off.

Russel (Lazy too)

Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
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JoAnn Axford on thu 6 aug 98

Russel, Thanks for the description of making garbage can saggars. Do you
use a specific clay body? What temperature do you use these at? Thanks
again, JoAnn

Russel Fouts on fri 7 aug 98

JoAnn,

>> Russel, Thanks for the description of making garbage can saggars. Do
you use a specific clay body? What temperature do you use these at? <<

It's a very groggy (label says 40%!) stoneware that fires between 1000c and
1300c. Seems to me like it would work, still haven't used the saggars yet.

All, What's a good kiln wash against light soda/salt? I imagine Alumina
Hydrate or a combination of that and something else.

Russel


Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
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32 2 223 02 75
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Stephen Mills on fri 7 aug 98

I'm afraid I'm so lazy I don't bother about the paper in the folds, if
it's too deep to winkle out I leave it!!

Steve

In message , Russel Fouts writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>JoAnn,
>
>>> I make them in newspaper lined buckets for individual pots. paper burns
>off afterwards (I'm lazy). <<
>
>I do much the same thing as Steve except I use dry cleaner plastic, lay the
>plastic over the opening of a 70 liter garbage can, "throw" a slab, lay the
>slab over the mouth of the can on the plastic and work it around until it's
>ready to ease down into the bottom of the can. (the bottom diameter fits my
>kiln perfectly). Then I beat the clay all around with a clay "hammer" I
>made. I let them get leather hard in the can, pull them out and finish them.
>Depending on the size slab you use you can get a sagger of just about any
>height.
>
>Steve's idea of newspaper might work better because it would also wick some
>of the moisture out making them dry a bit quicker. Steve, how do you keep
>the newspaper from getting in the folds of the clay?
>
>I've also made saggars by putting slabs of clay over inverted flower pots.
>Be sure to beat them really well. Then when they are "cheese" hard, beat
>them again all around again, this expands the clay a little more and they
>come right off.
>
>Russel (Lazy too)
>
>Russel Fouts
>Mes Potes & Mes Pots
>Brussels, Belgium
> 32 2 223 02 75
> Http://users.skynet.be/russel.fouts
> Http://www.japan-net.or.jp/~iwcat
>
> Please send all replies publicly
>

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Russel Fouts on sat 8 aug 98

Steve,

>I'm afraid I'm so lazy I don't bother about the paper in the folds, if it's
too deep to winkle out I leave it!! <

I guess the paper doesn' wrinkle deep enough to weaken the saggars?

Russel

Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
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Stephen Mills on sun 9 aug 98

In message , Russel Fouts writes
>
>
>All, What's a good kiln wash against light soda/salt? I imagine Alumina
>Hydrate or a combination of that and something else.

2 parts by weight Alumina Hydrate
1 PBW China Clay (kaolin)

Steve
Bath
UK
>
>Russel
>
>
>Russel Fouts
>Mes Potes & Mes Pots
>Brussels, Belgium
> 32 2 223 02 75
> Http://users.skynet.be/russel.fouts
> Http://www.japan-net.or.jp/~iwcat
>
> Please send all replies publicly
>

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Steve Mills
Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk