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lustre firing

updated thu 6 aug 98

 

Jim Cullen on fri 31 jul 98

I am interested in using lustres on certain pots I am making but I will never
have enough pots to fill a kiln. Would a test kiln give me good results for
firing individual pots to the 018 temps? These are pots that were bisqued to
06 and glaze fired to 6. I will be putting the lustre over a glazed area. I've
never used or seen a test kiln and assume the are the same as a full-sized
kiln expect smaller. Do you use cones and sight through a peephole? Do they
have kiln sitters? Are they 110 or 220 volts? Any other information would be
appreciated. TIA.

Jim Cullen
Naperville, Illinois

David Hewitt on sun 2 aug 98

Jim,
I routinely use on glaze lustres. I set the kiln to cut out at 800C. No
problems. I see no reason why a test kiln should not be OK.
You can see examples of the lustre work that I do on my web site.
David
In message , Jim Cullen writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am interested in using lustres on certain pots I am making but I will never
>have enough pots to fill a kiln. Would a test kiln give me good results for
>firing individual pots to the 018 temps? These are pots that were bisqued to
>06 and glaze fired to 6. I will be putting the lustre over a glazed area. I've
>never used or seen a test kiln and assume the are the same as a full-sized
>kiln expect smaller. Do you use cones and sight through a peephole? Do they
>have kiln sitters? Are they 110 or 220 volts? Any other information would be
>appreciated. TIA.
>
>Jim Cullen
>Naperville, Illinois
>

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Joanna deFelice on sun 2 aug 98

hi jim. i love lusters but must wait, maybe only 'til this fall, until i have my
i'm telling you what i remember from what i did when i was taking classes at the

i used a small test kiln for smaller pieces. it used a cone, had a peep hole, bu

i don't know about the voltage, but guess they were 220.

hope this helps,
joanna, in sunny eugene, oregon, gettin' ready for a trip to the coast!

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Would a test kiln give me good results for firing individual pots to the 018 tem



Joanna deFelice
Oregon Career Information System
joanna@orcis.uoregon.edu
541-346-2327

Jan Lipuma on mon 3 aug 98


Jim,
I have found the small test kiln to be perfect for lustre touches. As far
as I know, the bisque and glaze temperatures of the wares are not a factor
since the lustres fire so low.

I have an Aim, 110 volt with kiln sitter. I purchased it to fire
ornaments, but have used it for raku and also now I bisque fire pots from
children's classes in it to protect my production kilns.

Be sure to follow instructions for lustre firing, ventilate the studio
well, and don't be around the fumes!

Regards,
Janice Lipuma
Lexington KY

dempot on mon 3 aug 98

I guess you might call me a lurker as I have been reading the list for
some time now. During this time I have noticed that when the topics of
lustre, china paints or gold arise there seems to be very little
response or input from the list.

I have been using lustres and gold for the last 10 years and have come
to the realization that these on-glaze techniques have a lot to offer
potters as a means of extending their work. So often potters tend to
have the mindset that these on-glaze techniques are not part of
ceramics, rather they belong to solely to the china and porcelain
painters and subsequently have missed utilizing valid techniques and
tools for expressing their creativity.

The challenges offered for developing these techniques are unlimited and
can be used in any combination of ceramic ware. At present I am
exploring the use of lustres and gold in layering together with resist
techniques. This is akin to the layering of washes in watercolour
except that the ware has to be fired between layers and the colours are
not visible until the individual layers are fired.

In response to your firing question Jim, I don't worry about kilns being
full as the costs are so minimal to fire to Cone 017 in approximately 3
hours. The pieces need good ventilation as well as maximum circulation
for total oxidation to disipate the localized reducing agents included
in the lustres. My kiln is 16cu.ft and I often fire only 6-10 pieces in
it to keep with the rhythm of my work. For those querying glass colours,
lustres and gold for GLASS are available as they fire at a lower
temperature.

China paints can now be bought that do not contain lead and also a water
based medium can be used. Like any other occupation commonsense and care
needs to be taken in the studio using these materials instead of
becoming paranoid through continuous scare mongering about materials.
Awareness and safety is paramount but not to the extent that numerous
materials are not utilized or withdrawn. If that was the case with the
other arts painting, printmaking, sculpture, glass etc would all cease
to develop as people wouldn't use the materials. Sorry if I tend to
sound self-righteous here but everything in life needs to be seen in
perspective and balance.

I would be happy to have a dialogue with people interested in using
on-glaze techniques.

Johanna De Maine
Landsborough
Queensland Australia 4550
dempot@squirrel.com.au

Maxine Cohn. on wed 5 aug 98

Jim, with regards to your question about test kilns, yes, you can use a test
kiln as you would any full size hobby kiln. Shimpo ConeArt offers three sizes
of small kilns (also called Doll or China Kilns). Model 119 inside dimensions
are 11" x 9", 1813 inside dimensions are 17.5" x 13.5" and a front loading
1801 inside dimensions are 8.5"W x 10"D x 6"H. The 119 and 1801 are 120V and
plug into a standard outlet and the 1813 is 240V. The 1813 and 1801 are true
cone 10 and the 119 maximum of cone 6. All of the ConeArt Kilns can have any
controller options such as manual, automatic with one or two thermocouples,
automatic with switches even automatic with switches and sitter or if you
like, just switches.

Call Shimpo in Itasca, IL for your closest dealer 630-671-2137