The Slack-DeBrock Family on fri 27 nov 98
Greetings everyone....I am currently currently researching the prehistoric
pottery and sculpture of Ireland as part of my Master's Degree Art history
component. I thought I'd see if any clayarters have contacts, suggestions,
or know of resources out there in this subject area. I will be doing field
studies there to study the art of prehistoric Ireland, with an emphasis on
looking at it from an artist's eye rather than an archaeologist's. Any help
you can send my way will be greatly appreciated.....
Joan
Joan Slack-DeBrock/River Run Pottery
P.O.Box 95
McNaughton, WI 54543
715-277-2773
riverrun@newnorth.net
Joyce Lee on sat 28 nov 98
As I'm sure you've discovered, there are many resources for museums
displaying ancient Irish pottery. However, one seldom mentioned and
that fascinated me is a tiny museum on the property of the Nicholas
Mosse (very contemporary) Pottery in Bennington just out of Kilkenny
about 75 miles or so south of Dublin. The museum is opened on request
and contains shards/pots discovered in the area by the Noire river. I
had just become interested in pottery three years ago, didn't know where
to start (before finding Clayart) and naturally, being of unsound mind
and seduced by the freedom of retirement AND independently poor, decided
that Ireland was the place to go on my quest...can't even recall WHY
Ireland...didn't even know then that great-grandmother Shawn-Payne was
Irish...as with most adventures, though, glad we went, and felt very at
home. Loved the pottery. Enjoy your research.
Joyce
In the Mojave happy to hear there may be snow on the Sierras (viewed
from west side of our desert scrub acreage) tonight...promises,
promises...
Bob and Hulda on sun 29 nov 98
-----Original Message-----
From: The Slack-DeBrock Family
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 3:42 PM
Subject: Ancient Irish Pottery
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Greetings everyone....I am currently currently researching the prehistoric
>pottery and sculpture of Ireland as part of my Master's Degree Art history
>component. I thought I'd see if any clayarters have contacts, suggestions,
>or know of resources out there in this subject area. I will be doing field
>studies there to study the art of prehistoric Ireland, with an emphasis on
>looking at it from an artist's eye rather than an archaeologist's. Any help
>you can send my way will be greatly appreciated.....
>
>Joan
>
>Joan Slack-DeBrock/River Run Pottery
>P.O.Box 95
>McNaughton, WI 54543
>715-277-2773
>riverrun@newnorth.net
>
Dear Joan,
Ancient Irish;"Celtic?".The Celts were not into making
things from clay,metals were their media and almost everything they made was
to be used in thier everyday life and is not sculpture.It would be nearer to
classify it as the equivalent of to-day's jewellery/gold&silversmithing.The
most wonderful old pottery found and made in Ireland comes from settlements
dominated by the invading Vikings i.e Dublin and Waterford etc.
You may like to contact Ian and Sue Barber,"ISU POTS",Wesley
Place,Dublin8.Tel.01-4547852.Ian makes exact replicas of pots which have
been found in excavations and these are sold in the National Museum,a visit
to Ian will save you a great deal of time.
Regards,
Bob Hollis
chris cox on mon 30 nov 98
In message <002701be1b94$f5ecd000$8a897dc2@default>, Bob and Hulda
writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Slack-DeBrock Family
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 3:42 PM
>Subject: Ancient Irish Pottery
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>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>Greetings everyone....I am currently currently researching the prehistoric
>>pottery and sculpture of Ireland as part of my Master's Degree Art history
>>component. I thought I'd see if any clayarters have contacts, suggestions,
>>or know of resources out there in this subject area. I will be doing field
>>studies there to study the art of prehistoric Ireland, with an emphasis on
>>looking at it from an artist's eye rather than an archaeologist's. Any help
>>you can send my way will be greatly appreciated.....
>>
>>Joan
>>
>>Joan Slack-DeBrock/River Run Pottery
>>P.O.Box 95
>>McNaughton, WI 54543
>>715-277-2773
>>riverrun@newnorth.net
>>
Hi Joan -
The Celts were relative newcomers to Ireland. Before them were the
Beaker Folk, so named because they placed ceramic vessels in their
graves with either food or the intereds ashes in them. These were of a
distinctive "beaker" shaoe, of various size and usually placed upside
down in the grave or "Barrow".
For Irish monumental structures look up New Grange. This is probably the
best preserved prehistoric structure in Europe with intricate designes
carved in stone. I think this will knock your socks off.
Geoff Cox
Brenda Woods on thu 3 dec 98
Hello Joan,
I saw your message yesterday so I asked my History Prof. Dr. GLEESON who is
a Paddy himself and he gave me these references for you:
ANTIQUITIES OF THE IRISH COUNTRYSIDE, S.P. O' RIORDAIN
GUIDE TO THE NAT'L MONUMENTS OF IRELAND. PETER HARBISON
He also mentioned a listserv that you could use to submit questions on
line. The address is: He said that it was the
Department of the Environment of Ireland and you could ask questions and
receive answers pretty quickly.
I hope that this info is of some use to you. Good Luck on your Masters!!!
Brenda Woods
Tim Lynch on fri 4 dec 98
Well, I was all set to relay a wonderful website full of Celtic pottery
and other things Celtic, but the page I would have referred you to has
been password protected. I have accessed the page before without
password, so maybe it is protected because of finals. Just a guess.
Here's the page anyway: http://www.unc.edu/art111/celtic/index.html
Good luck!
Tim Lynch
Tim Lynch on sat 5 dec 98
As was pointed out to me, I forgot to give an important part of the web
address for Celtic Art and Culture. It should be
http://www.unc.edu/courses/art111/celtic/index.html
As I mentioned in my previous post, the images part of it seems to be
password protected but the other segments are accessable. Sory for the
inconvenience.
tim Lynch
Tim Lynch
The Clay Man
1117 Tedford St SE
East Wenatchee, WA 98802-5254
509-884-8303
clayman@internet.wsd.wednet.edu
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/1613
The Slack-DeBrock Family on mon 7 dec 98
Thanks so much, Tim, for the website information...it has tons of photos!
Also thanks to all of you who have responded to this thread. I have found
the SEARCS page of Irish links to have a wealth of information also! It is
at http://www.searcs-web.com. People both in the USA and abroad have been
so helpful in so many ways, sending me names and contacts and sites to
visit. I have found alot of material to study in preparation for my next
trip to Ireland....and look forward to seeing some excellent collections of
ancient pots and sculpture! Joan
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