"Terry Sullivan/Nottingham Center for the Arts. San Marcos," on fri 6 nov 98
Barry,
(Barry Silverman)
Somehow I missed your original post but caught Michells response and so must
respond via Clayart rather than directly.
I agree with you and Michell; what a wounderfull thing !!!!!
My comment, and this in no way is this intended to demean your actions, is:
Since the results are so very positive why not do it more than once or twice a
year ?? How about once a month with the employees helping clean up and manage
the affair. This is the sort of thing that influences and changes parents and
childrens lives, but once every year isn't enough to counter the negitive
effects these kids get from the rest of their environment.
I know it would be something of a hassle but the rewards could be priceless.
One kid turned onto a life of creativity instead of drugs ( 50 % of all
highschool kids have used pot or other narcotic in the US), one adult
reawakening to their artistic self.
I get on a soapbox with this stuff and that's why I started a non-profit art
center so I'm very much opinionated and committed to this.
However; if we artists don't start taking responsibility for creating the
future of our society then the bankers and military-industrialists certainly
will.
Just look around for gods sake...........
It is the dreams of the artists that create all that is beautifull and
worthwhile in a society.
Terry Sullivan
Nottingham Center for the Arts
http://www.nottinghamarts.org
email to: tsullivan@nottinghamarts.org
56 and still a passionate liberal who is young on the inside but a little
"creaky" on the outside. Nonetheless the wisdom of expirience ( read surviving
and learning from mistakes), and judicious pacing can still out play and party
some of the young'ns.
Tom Wirt on sat 7 nov 98
>However; if we artists don't start taking responsibility for creating the
>future of our society then the bankers and military-industrialists certainly
>will.
>Just look around for gods sake...........
>It is the dreams of the artists that create all that is beautifull and
>worthwhile in a society.
>
READ THIS ARTICLE: I happened to be looking through an old CM and ran across a
talk by Michael Cardew in the June/July/Aug 1985 issue. It should be enlarged
and hung in every studio and read by every student.
Tom
Tom Wirt on sun 8 nov 98
>However; if we artists don't start taking responsibility for creating the
>future of our society then the bankers and military-industrialists certainly
>will.
I posted that there was an article in CM that everyone should read (summer 1985)
about the above, by Michael Cardew. I went over and made some copies today, so
if anyone doesn't have this issue, drop me your mail address and I'll send one.
Tom
Don & Isao Morrill on mon 9 nov 98
At 21:25 11/7/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>However; if we artists don't start taking responsibility for creating the
>>future of our society then the bankers and military-industrialists certainly
>>will.
>>Just look around for gods sake...........
>>It is the dreams of the artists that create all that is beautifull and
>>worthwhile in a society.
>>
>
>
>READ THIS ARTICLE: I happened to be looking through an old CM and ran
across a
>talk by Michael Cardew in the June/July/Aug 1985 issue. It should be
enlarged
>and hung in every studio and read by every student.
>
>Tom
> If the foregoing is true then,how can the artists also be a reflection of
the society in which they live? Rotting societies produce artists of the
rot.Healthy societies produce artists of the health of that society.
Somehow,I doubt Michael Cardew ran off to Nigeria to escape 'healthy
British society' with its class-bound nature. Don Morrill
>
"Terry Sullivan/Nottingham Center for the Arts. San Marcos," on tue 10 nov 98
In a message dated 11/9/98 6:31:35 AM, you wrote:
<<----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>However; if we artists don't start taking responsibility for creating the
>>future of our society then the bankers and military-industrialists certainly
>>will.
>>Just look around for gods sake...........
>>It is the dreams of the artists that create all that is beautiful and
>>worthwhile in a society.
>>
>
>
>READ THIS ARTICLE: I happened to be looking through an old CM and ran
across a
>talk by Michael Cardew in the June/July/Aug. 1985 issue. It should be
enlarged
>and hung in every studio and read by every student.
>
>Tom
> If the foregoing is true then,how can the artists also be a reflection of
the society in which they live? Rotting societies produce artists of the
rot.Healthy societies produce artists of the health of that society.
Somehow,I doubt Michael Cardew ran off to Nigeria to escape 'healthy
British society' with its class-bound nature. Don Morrill
>>>
Since Don quotes part of my original message when replying to Tom ( who quoted
part of my message while referring to Cardews' article in Cm) ; I must reply.
No offence Don but your logic is faulty.
You assume, it seems, that the main role of an artist is to reflect and be the
effect of their society. Especially those things which are "rotten" in it.
I don't for a second think that's the main purpose for art or artists.
Sure isn't what is being done by most artists I know.
Yes some artists reflect their society and some choose, consciously or not, to
reflect ( I think the term refract might be a better metaphor since artists
aren't mirrors) what is degraded or negitive or rotten in that society.
However; that doesn't alter the statement that those dreams which are
positive, beautiful and reach for higher goals are mostly dreamed by artists.
Even in a degraded society there are many, I think most, artists who continue
to shine with inner light instead, as you suggest, with the darkness of the
alley.
Although we are all influenced by, and therefor "reflect", the culture we
live in; that doesn't mean we must, or should, dramatize the worse of it.
The role of an artist is not mainly to reflect the society, especially the
worse in which he or she lives.
That line seems to have come into art education sometime after angst ridden
German Psychiatrists and Philosophers started trying to spread their
particular dark view of humankind to the rest of the world.
Of course one role of artists is to point out societies deficiencies but if
that was all we did it would be an even uglier world and society.
There are many forms of communication for artists. I think the "highest" is
to dream the dreams and show the way to a better society. We can all play a
part in this; from the beautifully crafted bowl or mug to Beetovens (sp ?)
ninth symphony.
Guess I'll have to look up that article by Cardew.
Terry Sullivan
Nottingham Center for the Arts
San Marcos, CA
http://www.nottinghamarts.org
personal email to- Go2tms@aol.com
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