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blues, pleeeeeeese

updated tue 26 jan 99

 

Harry Verkooyen on wed 13 jan 99

I'd love some tried and true blue glazes. Turquoise, Midnight, pale blue,
dark blue, opaque, transluscent. Anything. I prefer glazes that don't run,
crawl, sputter or fall of the pot. Midnight blue is of interest and a nice
blue like old Noxema jars. Cone 5-6 oxidation.
Thanks
Michelle in Holland where it was spring four days ago and today there is
snow. Ummm....

Bill Williams on fri 15 jan 99

Hi! I have managed to get some really nice blue glazes. But I can't really
take the credit. I use "The Potters Complete Book of Clay and Glazes" by
James Chappell. I have used the base glazes he has developed, and go from
there. If you can get the book in your local library or purchase one, you
will probably use it often. I will go ahead and give you the ones I use and
then maybe you can search the book for yourself. He has a very nice glaze
he calls "floating blue" on pg 210.
Nepheline syenite 47.3, Gerstley borate 27.0, Silica 20.3, Kaolin (EPK) 5.4,
Red iron oxide 2.0, Cobalt oxide 1.0 (if you use cobalt carb. double it),
Rutile (milled) 4.0, C.M.C. 1 tsp. This glaze should be mixed with
distilled water. Stir it often, because the iron settles. Fire to cone 6
oxidation exactly and let cool noramlly. You will like this glaze. It
won't work tho if you substitute.
Another of his glazes I use quite often is SG-59 : Lithium carbonate 8.9,
Feldspar (custer) 24.8, Whiting 13.4, Kaolin 11.5, Silica 32.2, Ultrox (I
use Zircopax) 9.2, c.m.c. 1 tsp. When I add 2.0 Ilmanite and 2.0 Cobalt
Carb, I get a deep blue at cone 6. When I add 4.0 copper and 8.0 titanium,
I get a very nice mottled turquoise. This is on white clay. On black clay
the floating blue will give you a little deeper blue, but I can't get the
other two to come out as well using the dark clay.
He has an opaque blue semi-gloss that is a lighter blue: Gerstley borate
50.0, Kaolin 15.0, Silica 35.0, Cobalt Carb 1.0, copper carb 2.0, rutile
1.0. These are very good glazes for me and I can usually depend on them.
Try the SG-59 with other oxides, it is a nice base to work with. I have
only been throwing for 3 years, but these glazes always work for me. Good
luck. Connie (billwms@fn.net)
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Verkooyen
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 3:28 PM
Subject: blues, pleeeeeeese


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I'd love some tried and true blue glazes. Turquoise, Midnight, pale blue,
>dark blue, opaque, transluscent. Anything. I prefer glazes that don't
run,
>crawl, sputter or fall of the pot. Midnight blue is of interest and a nice
>blue like old Noxema jars. Cone 5-6 oxidation.
>Thanks
>Michelle in Holland where it was spring four days ago and today there is
>snow. Ummm....
>

MR WENDELL R RIDENOUR on sat 16 jan 99

Dear Harry, Please try this Eyes Green glaze...Its a beautiful
turquoise.
We use this at Indiana Unv. it seems to be every ones favorite...I
use it on everything...its thick , doesn't run...it looks very pretty
on bowls, vases pots etc. I do a lot of southwestern pots.

Eyes of Green

Cone 9

Colemanite
(geroly Borate) 117.6 708

Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.) 401.96 2412

Dolomite 68.6 420

Talc 147.0 882

Kaolin 49. 300

Flint 196.0 1176

Chromium oxide 11.47 68.82

cobate carbonate 11.47 68.82


We use a gas kiln I do not know what this does in a electric kiln..
....

We fire at cone 9

Ellen

Robert Santerre on mon 18 jan 99

Ellen,

I to would like to try this glaze. Can you or anyone else on the list
help me out with " Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.)" What is this (are
these), a clay? Can you recommend a source or a very close, commonly
available substitute? I've recalculated to a percentage formula that may be
of help to others (see in original message).

Thanks, Bob
rfsanterre@iquest.net

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MR WENDELL R RIDENOUR wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear Harry, Please try this Eyes Green glaze...Its a beautiful
> turquoise.
> We use this at Indiana Unv. it seems to be every ones favorite...I
> use it on everything...its thick , doesn't run...it looks very pretty
> on bowls, vases pots etc. I do a lot of southwestern pots.
>
> Eyes of Green
>
> Cone 9
>
>
> Pct.
> Colemanite (Gerstley Borate) 117.6 708 11.73
> Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.) 401.96 2412 39.96
> Dolomite 68.6
> 420 6.96
> Talc 147.0
> 882 14.61
> Kaolin 49.
> 300 4.97
> Flint 196.0
> 1176 19.48
>
> Chromium oxide 11.47 68.82
> 1.14
> cobalt carbonate 11.47 68.82
> 1.14


99.99

> We use a gas kiln I do not know what this does in a electric kiln..
> ...
>
> We fire at cone 9
>
> Ellen

Veronica Honthaas on tue 19 jan 99

Now I am more confused than ever. Can someone send a simple recipe for EYES
OF GREEN GLAZE.........PLEASE.



At 01:04 PM 1/19/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Boy, this has gotten pretty screwed-up by my or Clayart's text reader.
Rather t
>try to fix it (since I really don't know how) I'll just advise you all to
follow
>lines and weird paragraph wraps carefully. The percent figure is the 3rd
figure
>the right of each ingredient.
>
>If anyone has advice on how to correct the weird paragraph wrap problem,
I'm all
>ears. Could I be the only one who sees this? Is it just my
computer/e-mail rea
>(Netscape)
>
>Bob
>
>///////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
>Robert Santerre wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Ellen,
>>
>> I to would like to try this glaze. Can you or anyone else on the list
>> help me out with " Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.)" What is this (are
>> these), a clay? Can you recommend a source or a very close, commonly
>> available substitute? I've recalculated to a percentage formula that
may be
>> of help to others (see in original message).
>>
>> Thanks, Bob
>> rfsanterre@iquest.net
>>
>>
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>
>> MR WENDELL R RIDENOUR wrote:
>>
>> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> > Dear Harry, Please try this Eyes Green glaze...Its a beautiful
>> > turquoise.
>> > We use this at Indiana Unv. it seems to be every ones favorite...I
>> > use it on everything...its thick , doesn't run...it looks very pretty
>> > on bowls, vases pots etc. I do a lot of southwestern pots.
>> >
>> > Eyes of Green
>> >
>> > Cone 9
>> >
>> >
>> > Pct.
>> > Colemanite (Gerstley Borate) 117.6 708 11.73
>> > Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.) 401.96 2412 39.96
>> > Dolomite 68.6
>> > 420 6.96
>> > Talc 147.0
>> > 882 14.61
>> > Kaolin 49.
>> > 300 4.97
>> > Flint 196.0
>> > 1176 19.48
>> >
>> > Chromium oxide 11.47 68.82
>> > 1.14
>> > cobalt carbonate 11.47 68.82
>> > 1.14
>>
>> 99.99
>>
>> > We use a gas kiln I do not know what this does in a electric kiln..
>> > ...
>> >
>> > We fire at cone 9
>> >
>> > Ellen
>
>

Robert Santerre on tue 19 jan 99

Boy, this has gotten pretty screwed-up by my or Clayart's text reader. Rather t
try to fix it (since I really don't know how) I'll just advise you all to follow
lines and weird paragraph wraps carefully. The percent figure is the 3rd figure
the right of each ingredient.

If anyone has advice on how to correct the weird paragraph wrap problem, I'm all
ears. Could I be the only one who sees this? Is it just my computer/e-mail rea
(Netscape)

Bob

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Robert Santerre wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Ellen,
>
> I to would like to try this glaze. Can you or anyone else on the list
> help me out with " Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.)" What is this (are
> these), a clay? Can you recommend a source or a very close, commonly
> available substitute? I've recalculated to a percentage formula that may be
> of help to others (see in original message).
>
> Thanks, Bob
> rfsanterre@iquest.net
>
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> MR WENDELL R RIDENOUR wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Dear Harry, Please try this Eyes Green glaze...Its a beautiful
> > turquoise.
> > We use this at Indiana Unv. it seems to be every ones favorite...I
> > use it on everything...its thick , doesn't run...it looks very pretty
> > on bowls, vases pots etc. I do a lot of southwestern pots.
> >
> > Eyes of Green
> >
> > Cone 9
> >
> >
> > Pct.
> > Colemanite (Gerstley Borate) 117.6 708 11.73
> > Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.) 401.96 2412 39.96
> > Dolomite 68.6
> > 420 6.96
> > Talc 147.0
> > 882 14.61
> > Kaolin 49.
> > 300 4.97
> > Flint 196.0
> > 1176 19.48
> >
> > Chromium oxide 11.47 68.82
> > 1.14
> > cobalt carbonate 11.47 68.82
> > 1.14
>
> 99.99
>
> > We use a gas kiln I do not know what this does in a electric kiln..
> > ...
> >
> > We fire at cone 9
> >
> > Ellen

Robert Santerre on thu 21 jan 99

Ok, I'll try this once more. Sorry for the confusion.
I'd still like some info on Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.).
What is it? Is there a readily available (USA) substitute?


Eyes of Green Cone 9

Weight. Pct.
Colemanite (Gerstley Borate) 11.73
Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.) 39.96
Dolomite 6.96
Talc 14.61
Kaolin 4.97
Flint 19.48
Chromium oxide 1.14
Cobalt carbonate 1.14
99.99%

Veronica Honthaas wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Now I am more confused than ever. Can someone send a simple recipe for EYES
> OF GREEN GLAZE.........PLEASE.
>

MR WENDELL R RIDENOUR on fri 22 jan 99

Barter Feldy can be sub. for oxford.
Let me give you this glaze rec. again....It looks like the comp. goof
up
Eyes of Green

Colemanite (geroly borate ) 117.6
708
*Oxford 401.96
2412
dolomite 68.6
420
talc 147.0
882
Kaolin 49.
300
flint 196.0
1176
Chromium oxide 11.47
68.82
cobalt carbonate 11.47
68.82
* Barter Feldy can be sub. for Oxford
Cone 9 Ellen from IU

Edouard Bastarache on sun 24 jan 99

Salut Robert,

if it is Oxford spar it can be substituted for by Custer spar.

Later,



Edouard Bastarache
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Robert Santerre
@ : CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date : 22 janvier, 1999 08:27
Objet : Re: blues, pleeeeeeese


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Ok, I'll try this once more. Sorry for the confusion.
>I'd still like some info on Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.).
>What is it? Is there a readily available (USA) substitute?
>
>
> Eyes of Green Cone 9
>
> Weight. Pct.
> Colemanite (Gerstley Borate) 11.73
> Oxford (Barter Feldy Can Sub.) 39.96
> Dolomite 6.96
> Talc 14.61
> Kaolin 4.97
> Flint 19.48
> Chromium oxide 1.14
> Cobalt carbonate 1.14
> 99.99%
>
>Veronica Honthaas wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Now I am more confused than ever. Can someone send a simple recipe for
EYES
>> OF GREEN GLAZE.........PLEASE.
>>

MR WENDELL R RIDENOUR on mon 25 jan 99

EYES OF GREEN

My computer is acting up... Cone 9 Fire in Reduction
...

The rec. is

Eyes Of Green

117.6 Colemanite ( Gerstley Borate)

401.97 Feldspar Custer

68.6 Dolomite

147.0 Talc

49. Kaolin

196.0 Flint


11.47 Chromium oxide

11.47 Cobalt carbonate


Grams

Lili Krakowski on mon 25 jan 99

Barter Feldy sounds like a wonderful name! So preppy! However this ?
proves once more that you can tell the age of a potter by the spars and
clays s/he remembers. Anyone else out there remember Perrine and Dalton
clays? Anyhow Oxford was a POTASH feldspar. Try whatever the dealer has,
and adjust the recipe accordingly (if there is need) by lowering
yourkaolin a bit if it's underfired, raising it a bit if it's too fluid.

Lili Krakowski

Debby Grant on mon 25 jan 99

I answered this once already but it doesn't seem to have made it
to the list. Oxford Spar is an old feldspar which hasn't been mined
for a long time. Just substitute Custer Spar in equal amounts and
test. The other words in parenthesis seem to refer to another feldspar
maybe obtained in Canada, which I've never heard of, but I'm sure
Custer will do the trick.

Good luck, Debby Grant in NH