Janet H Walker on fri 2 oct 98
Someone had a very interesting question/observation combo a little
while ago that I wanted to add to. I forget the details (sorry) but
they were talking about how they woke up full of sore muscles when
doing shows or other stressful things. And wondered about how to
stop this from happening. And tried just telling themselves not to.
And it worked. Sound familiar to anyone else?
Anyhow, I've had similar experience with the waking mind affecting
sleep behavior and I thought it was worth passing on. A few years
ago I had a bad bout with tendonitis. I was thinking of the various
things I did with my hands that seemed to affect it. Things like
picking up pots with finger tips or carrying too many plastic
grocery bags. But there was another thing -- sleeping. Turned out
that I would bend my wrist and jam the back of my hand against the
wall or curl my hand into a fist and push the back of my hand into
some other body part. So I decided I'd better not do that -- but
how not to? Decided to tell myself to wake up if my hands were in
one of the funny positions. Somehow, I got my attention and
whenever I woke up would straighten out the wrist and move it away
from the wall or wherever.
I was pretty surprised about being able to do this. Also pleased that
it did seem to make a difference with the arms.
So with leg muscles, make sure you're not "standing on tiptoe" all
night by pressing your toes into the wall or footboard or wherever!
Cheers,
Jan Walker
Cambridge MA
Joyce Lee on sat 3 oct 98
Jan's post may have solved an irritating problem for me - painful,
sharp, deep toe cramps. Since I'm taking an aerobics class after years
of underexercising, I thought the class was the problem. The instructor
thought not, but suggested that we work on "shaking them out." As I read
Jan's post I became aware that my legs were curled well back under my
chair on tiptoe to the point of being somewhat painful. If I do that all
the time, therein probably lies the problem and the solution. As Mrs.
Livesy intoned in typing class in Tennessee a hundred years ago, "Keep
your feet flat on the floor."
Joyce
In the Mojave cleaning, firing and brewing soup awaiting Clayarter Lynne
Antone's visit so we can meet and share.
Olivia T Cavy on sat 3 oct 98
Jan,
I had a similar experience with sore wrists, and reached the same
conclusion as you (that I was sleeping in convoluted hand positions). I
was sleeping on my stomach with my hands under my pillow. My solution was
a little different than yours. I made a conscious effort to sleep with my
arms outstretched rather than bent. Since I am not tall and my feet
don't reach the end of the mattress, I made a point of starting off the
night further down towards the bottom of the bed so my arms didn't reach
the front wall. Same as you, it worked quite well.
Recently I found that my neck was getting stiff, and it was painful to
turn my head from side to side. I concluded that my pillow was too large,
ie too high. Changing to a flatter pillow resulted in slow but gradual
improvement. It took a number of weeks until I realized that I wasn't in
pain when driving and turning my head before changing lanes. It felt so
good when it didn't hurt any more!
Bonnie
Bonnie D. Hellman
Pittsburgh, PA
work email: bdh@firstcaptl.com or oliviatcavy@juno.com
home email: mou10man@sgi.net
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:26:19 EDT Janet H Walker
writes:
>----------------------------Original
>message----------------------------
>Someone had a very interesting question/observation combo a little
>while ago that I wanted to add to. I forget the details (sorry) but
>they were talking about how they woke up full of sore muscles when
>doing shows or other stressful things. And wondered about how to
>stop this from happening. And tried just telling themselves not to.
>And it worked. Sound familiar to anyone else?
>
>Anyhow, I've had similar experience with the waking mind affecting
>sleep behavior and I thought it was worth passing on. A few years
>ago I had a bad bout with tendonitis. I was thinking of the various
>things I did with my hands that seemed to affect it. Things like
>picking up pots with finger tips or carrying too many plastic
>grocery bags. But there was another thing -- sleeping. Turned out
>that I would bend my wrist and jam the back of my hand against the
>wall or curl my hand into a fist and push the back of my hand into
>some other body part. So I decided I'd better not do that -- but
>how not to? Decided to tell myself to wake up if my hands were in
>one of the funny positions. Somehow, I got my attention and
>whenever I woke up would straighten out the wrist and move it away
>from the wall or wherever.
>
>I was pretty surprised about being able to do this. Also pleased that
>it did seem to make a difference with the arms.
>
>So with leg muscles, make sure you're not "standing on tiptoe" all
>night by pressing your toes into the wall or footboard or wherever!
>
>Cheers,
>Jan Walker
>Cambridge MA
>
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Berry Silverman on sat 3 oct 98
Janet H Walker wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
> Someone had a very interesting question/observation combo a little
> while ago that I wanted to add to. I forget the details (sorry) but
> they were talking about how they woke up full of sore muscles when
> doing shows or other stressful things. And wondered about how to
> stop this from happening. And tried just telling themselves not to.
> And it worked. Sound familiar to anyone else?
>
> Anyhow, I've had similar experience with the waking mind affecting
> sleep behavior and I thought it was worth passing on. A few years
> ago I had a bad bout with tendonitis. I was thinking of the various
> things I did with my hands that seemed to affect it. Things like
> picking up pots with finger tips or carrying too many plastic
> grocery bags. But there was another thing -- sleeping. Turned out
> that I would bend my wrist and jam the back of my hand against the
> wall or curl my hand into a fist and push the back of my hand into
> some other body part. So I decided I'd better not do that -- but
> how not to? Decided to tell myself to wake up if my hands were in
> one of the funny positions. Somehow, I got my attention and
> whenever I woke up would straighten out the wrist and move it away
> from the wall or wherever.
>
> I was pretty surprised about being able to do this. Also pleased that
> it did seem to make a difference with the arms.
>
> So with leg muscles, make sure you're not "standing on tiptoe" all
> night by pressing your toes into the wall or footboard or wherever!
>
> Cheers,
> Jan Walker
> Cambridge MA
> Jan, for those who can't concentrate during sleep as well as you
can, there are simple wrist braces with a metal support to keep you
from curling your hands and wrists at night. They are not
uncomfortable to sleep in, and I find they really provide relief when
my wrists are acting up. I wear them for a few days until the episode
passes. (In a prior life I was a deposition court reporter, and
during a full day deposition I would easily write 60,000 or 70,000
strokes of the wrists up and down in a day. Makes pottery a piece of
cake). Now if only I could find the switch to turn off work-related
dreams about whether the kiln controls are set correctly or did I
remember to put the epsom salts in the 30-gal. tank of glaze I just
mixed.
==
Berry Silverman,
Berryware, Tucson, Arizona
berrysilverman@yahoo.com
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