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the Gallaghers on sun 22 nov 98

I have just recently discovered an interesting book on glazes that is very
basic, (just what I need), and has excellent pictures of colors of oxides,
glazes & slips in both reduction and oxidation firings. It gives reasonably
good explainations of the glaze ingredients and I am curious if anyone is
familiar with it, and if I can trust the color charts it provides. It is
not a recipe book for glazes however, only a color reference.

The book is:
"The Potter's Palette" by Christine Constant & Steve Ogden

Thanks.

Michelle
In Oregon

JKJ on tue 24 nov 98

I recently acquired the same book, and find it really interesting. Be
sure that your copy included the note indicating some mistakes made in
the original publication. Mine did not and a friend passed the info
along...seems to me these are rather serious mistakes.

"Erratta

Caution. Directions calling for Recipe A, an alkaline glaze, and recipe
B, a lead bisilicate glaze which is not suitable for food or beverage
containers, have been transposed in five places.

Copper Oxide: page 17, first two column headings should read:
Alkaline Lead
Low temp Low temp
Recipe A Recipe B

Chrome Oxide: page 45 first two column headings should read:
Alkaline Lead
Low temp Low temp
Recipe A Recipe B

Vanaduim Pentoxide: page 53, first two column headings should read:
Alkaline Lead
Low temp Low temp
Recipe A Recipe B


page 57, first two columns headings should read:
Alkaline Lead
Low temp Low temp
Recipe A Recipe B

Stains: page 71, first two column headings should read:
Alkaline Lead
Low temp Low temp
Recipe A Recipe B

Be sure to read and follow all cautions and instructions for testing
glaze for metal release, on page 8 and 14, whenever you work with
potentially toxic materials."

Hope this info helps.

Kim Miner
jkj@mcs.net

the Gallaghers wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have just recently discovered an interesting book on glazes that is very
> basic, (just what I need), and has excellent pictures of colors of oxides,
> glazes & slips in both reduction and oxidation firings. It gives reasonably
> good explainations of the glaze ingredients and I am curious if anyone is
> familiar with it, and if I can trust the color charts it provides. It is
> not a recipe book for glazes however, only a color reference.
>
> The book is:
> "The Potter's Palette" by Christine Constant & Steve Ogden
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michelle
> In Oregon

Cheryl L Litman on tue 24 nov 98

Michelle,

Colors are similar for the one cone 8-9 base a friend tried. All of the
oxide mixes she used didn't achieve the "textural" effects which made her
glazes look flatter than in the book. No cone 6 oxidation base glaze in
that book either - big failing I think. She was very new to glazing and
likes the book because it gave her a good starting point using pictures.

Cheryl Litman
Somerset, NJ
email: cheryllitman@juno.com

On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:13:11 EST the Gallaghers
writes:
>----------------------------Original
>message----------------------------
>I have just recently discovered an interesting book on glazes that is
>very
>basic, (just what I need), and has excellent pictures of colors of
>oxides,
>glazes & slips in both reduction and oxidation firings. It gives
>reasonably
>good explainations of the glaze ingredients and I am curious if anyone
>is
>familiar with it, and if I can trust the color charts it provides. It
>is
>not a recipe book for glazes however, only a color reference.
>
>The book is:
>"The Potter's Palette" by Christine Constant & Steve Ogden
>
>Thanks.
>
>Michelle
>In Oregon
>

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Betsy Wilding on wed 16 dec 98

Hi Michelle, I found that book too, and went crazy for the vanadium
glaze pictures--tried 13 of them! My stoneware made them look "dug up"
and not wonderful at all, so be careful to use white clay.


Betsy in Silver Spring, MD

the Gallaghers wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have just recently discovered an interesting book on glazes that is very
> basic, (just what I need), and has excellent pictures of colors of oxides,
> glazes & slips in both reduction and oxidation firings. It gives reasonably
> good explainations of the glaze ingredients and I am curious if anyone is
> familiar with it, and if I can trust the color charts it provides. It is
> not a recipe book for glazes however, only a color reference.
>
> The book is:
> "The Potter's Palette" by Christine Constant & Steve Ogden
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michelle
> In Oregon

ilene on thu 27 apr 00

What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of
ceramics? One that you would consider a must to own.

Ilene

Kurt M Vernikos on thu 27 apr 00

There is a book that I have at home by Glenn C. Nelson called
"A potters Handbook", I believe there are two editions. This book was one of
the best in its time (70's) and was used as text in many schools throughout
the Midwest. It is by far the best source for all aspects of pottery. Might
be difficult to find, I have information on the publisher if necessary.
Definitely worth searching for.
----- Original Message -----
From: ilene
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 2:13 PM
Subject: Book Question


> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of
> ceramics? One that you would consider a must to own.
>
> Ilene
>

Martin Howard on fri 28 apr 00

A potter without Hamer is like a potter without a Hammer.

Martin Howard
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk

Andie on fri 28 apr 00

I am thankful every day that I own Frank & Janet Hamer's The Potter's
Dictionary of Materials & Techniques. It covers just about everything, is
user-friendly, and is written in language that is understandable even to a
beginner, but is also informative enough for established clay artists. I
consider it a must-own.

Andie

-----Original Message-----
From: ilene
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 2:14 PM
Subject: Book Question


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of
>ceramics? One that you would consider a must to own.
>
>Ilene
>

Earl Brunner on fri 28 apr 00

Some will probably tell you Hamer's and Hamer's "The
Potter's Dictionary"
and it is a good all around reference. But it is a
Dictionary. If you are looking for good information in
another format, I would recommend either
Glen Nelson's "Ceramics, a potters handbook" or "The Craft
and Art of Clay"
by Susan Peterson.
But then, I have 50+ books and 6 videos in my collection.
Very few of
them are "all around books". There are many excellent books
that focus
on specific areas of the craft.

ilene wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of
> ceramics? One that you would consider a must to own.
>
> Ilene

--
Earl Brunner
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mailto:bruec@anv.net

Nina Jones on fri 28 apr 00

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Hi, Ilene=21

The Spirit of Clay, by Robert Piepenberg. It addresses not only technique, =
but
development and creativity. There are other books I love and feel I =
couldn't do
without, but if I had to choose just one, this would be it.

Nina D. Jones
Southside Chicago
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=3E=3E=3E ilene=40glassartist.com 04/27/00 01:13PM =3E=3E=3E
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of
ceramics? One that you would consider a must to own.

Ilene

Peter T. Wang on fri 28 apr 00


I vote for Susan Peterson's _The Craft and Art of Clay_. The third
edition just came out. It covers a lot of areas, from moldmaking,
handbuilding, throwing, glaze decoration, historical and contemporary
ceramics, glaze formulation and chemistry, and numerous photos of modern
studio ceramics.

-peter

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, ilene wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of
> ceramics? One that you would consider a must to own.
>
> Ilene
>

iandol on sat 29 apr 00

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----------------------------Original message----------------------------

What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of ceramics? =
One
that you would consider a must to own. Ilene

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, I=92ve been buying books about pottery, claywork and ceramics for =
about
forty years and I have to say that I wish Susan Peterson's book had been
available when I started. For a comprehensive overview which distils the =
best
concepts from Rhodes, Ball and Lovoos, Nelson, Kenny and those early =
pioneers,
The Craft and Art of Clay, 2nd edition, 1995 is hard to beat. An alternative
would be Graham Flight, Ceramics Manual, 1990

Mind you, the rest along the shelves in the hallway are =3Emust owns=3C as =
well

Ivor.

priddy on sun 30 apr 00

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=3E What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of =
ceramics?
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Until I read an argument on Clayart about it...

I had never heard of =22A Potter's Book=22, by Leach. I read it after being
trained in clay work, decoration, and having my own studio and business for
years. (Also, the Picolpasso, not as handy, better pictures)

Each page I turned, I thought, =22Yes, yes, that is it exactly...=22

It is not flaky, addresses all aspects of pottery as a lifestyle and as a
business, is well written, and gets you in the right mindset to do the work.


I would not have appreciated it 17 years ago. But I do now, and if someone
said to me, =22I want to be a potter, what shall I read?=22, I would give =
them a
copy of this and a small notebook to write responses in as you read,
generating your own potter's book.

respectfully submitted,
elizabeth priddy

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Michael C Hill on sun 30 apr 00


I like Susans book also, however I feel Robin Hoppers Ceramic Spectrem has
more info on glase and color development. Its is what I recomend my
students buy as their first book.

Rika Hirata on mon 1 may 00

I like Rhodes' "Clay and Glazes for the Potter," Peterson's "The Craft and
Art of Clay," and Toki's "Hands in Clay."
"Hands in Clay" is a really nice all around resource--it even gives you
briefings on the history of ceramics in the world, and it shows different
techniques of working the clay.

At 04:44 PM 4/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>------------------
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >
> > What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of ceramics?
>=
>
>Until I read an argument on Clayart about it...
>
>I had never heard of "A Potter's Book", by Leach. I read it after being
>trained in clay work, decoration, and having my own studio and business for
>years. (Also, the Picolpasso, not as handy, better pictures)
>
>Each page I turned, I thought, "Yes, yes, that is it exactly..."
>
>It is not flaky, addresses all aspects of pottery as a lifestyle and as a
>business, is well written, and gets you in the right mindset to do the work.
>
>
>I would not have appreciated it 17 years ago. But I do now, and if someone
>said to me, "I want to be a potter, what shall I read?", I would give them a
>copy of this and a small notebook to write responses in as you read,
>generating your own potter's book.
>
>respectfully submitted,
>elizabeth priddy
>
>priddy-clay@usa.net
>http:www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
>
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Ray Aldridge on tue 2 may 00

At 04:44 PM 4/30/00 EDT, Elizabeth wrote:
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>
>> What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of ceramics?
>=
>
>Until I read an argument on Clayart about it...
>
>I had never heard of "A Potter's Book", by Leach. I read it after being
>trained in clay work, decoration, and having my own studio and business for
>years. (Also, the Picolpasso, not as handy, better pictures)
>
>

I agree with Elizabeth that this is still a terrific book. I first read it
30 years ago, and it's a large part of why clay hooked me so thoroughly. I
still retain many of the values I absorbed from this book, even though I
regard Leach as having fairly enormous feet of clay, as a person. But
there's no doubt that as a writer about the potter's craft, Leach is
unexcelled.

Ray


Aldridge Porcelain and Stoneware
http://www.goodpots.com

Craig Fulladosa on sat 6 may 00

That's a toughie. The book that first comes to mind for me is the book I
first bought when I was in High School. It was a college text by Glenn
Neslon. I think it was called the Ceramics Handbook. There have been many
more books made since then but it really depends on what you want to do.
Keep in touch.


ilene wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> What Book would you say is the most informative on all aspects of
> ceramics? One that you would consider a must to own.
>
> Ilene

--
Craig
The Clayman
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