Marcia Selsor on thu 12 nov 98
aaaaaaaaDeer hunting is a big thing in Montana. In Wyoming, the first
day of Elk season closes the schools. I respect vegitarians and I myself
don't hunt Bambi. But, I always ask my student to save the tail for me.
They make great decorating brushes. After all, where do you think all
those sanle brushes are coming from?
Marcia in Montana
Michael McDowell wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> A few days ago Mel Jacobsen included a remark about his plan to hunt deer
> this fall with a black powder rifle in a post to the list. He offered no
> more details on this subject than that. Still, this remark engendered the
> following remark from Katherine N.:
>
> "What is bothering me is this. Your reference to going out to slaughter
> a deer, and the details about how you are going to do it were uncalled
> for, and inappropriate. I know that I am probably not the only
> vegetarian on this list who was disturbed by the imagery created by it.
> I hope that you do not consider this an attack in any way, it certainly
> is not meant as such. I just wanted to send a gentle reminder that
> there are probably vegetarian and animal rights activists on the list
> who might feel badly about references to animal slaughter.
> Stay safe out there,
> Katherine N. (who means no offense, and knows you didn't either)"
>
> Now clearly Katherine was trying to be as polite and gentle as possible in
> her remarks, but I can't help feeling that they still do violence to free
> expression here on the Clayart list. We are a diverse group, diverse in many
> respects, and it is that diversity that makes this a valuable forum.
> Katherine, I celebrate your personal choice to be a vegetarian. Given my
> Buddhist tendencies, I have the greatest respect for your ability to act on
> your principles. Mel has his own life to lead, his own choices to make. I
> very much want to hear all I can from Mel, so that I might have as clear and
> full an image of the man as possible. I celebrate the strength of character
> that allows him to continue to reveal himself to us, in spite of the
> occassional critics who would have him present only those aspects of himself
> and his experience they find palatable.
>
> Michael McDowell
> Whatcom County, WA USA
> mmpots@memes.com
> http://www2.memes.com/mmpots
June Perry on fri 13 nov 98
Dear Marcia or other clayarters,
What do you wiuth the tail once you have it? I remember something about
storing it in borax. My son gave me one the other day and I put it in a baggie
with the borax. My questions are:
How long do I leave it there?
To make a brush, do I just remove the tip hairs and form it like I would any
other brush, or is the borax supposed to mummify the tail and then I use the
whole tail as a brush??? Rich in deer tail but confused and badly in need of
instruction here! :-)
Warmest regards,
June
Phyllis E. Tilton on fri 13 nov 98
Hi: Be careful where you store the deer tail. I was given 2 deer tails several
years ago. They were in the plastic bag-I put them on a shelf in the garage.
The wintering mice that lurk there, got to them before I did. What a mess-they
spread that 'fur' every where. Never did get a brush made !
Phylls Tilton
Marcia Selsor on fri 13 nov 98
You can let it dry out, then cut sections and shape as you like. Wrap
onto a handle and seal with silicon (as used in weather-proofing shoes).
The long hairs can make beautiful brushes for glaze decoration. I like
to paint with good music/ and rhythm. I prefer white tails, I think the
hair is longer.
Marcia in Montana
June Perry wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear Marcia or other clayarters,
>
> What do you wiuth the tail once you have it? I remember something about
> storing it in borax. My son gave me one the other day and I put it in a baggie
> with the borax. My questions are:
> How long do I leave it there?
> To make a brush, do I just remove the tip hairs and form it like I would any
> other brush, or is the borax supposed to mummify the tail and then I use the
> whole tail as a brush??? Rich in deer tail but confused and badly in need of
> instruction here! :-)
>
> Warmest regards,
> June
June Perry on sat 14 nov 98
Thanks Marcia and all who responded to the deer tail. I'm not sure I have this
right. You let the tail dry out, but how long that takes with it sitting in
Borax?
Is the borax supposed to help the drying and cut down bacteria??? I really
want to understand this process.
This deer tail was very fresh when I got it so I need to know just how long to
leave it in the Borax. If I leave it too long, will that negatively affect the
hairs and if I don't leave it it long enough, is there a negative to that
other than it not being fun to handle.
I've made brushes before, but with dog hair cut from the nape of the neck. In
fact the brush I made in college is still my favorite brush for doing splash
type decoration.
Warm regards,
June (revealing her total ignorance of the process).
Assumption Abbey on sun 15 nov 98
At 10:08 11/14/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Thanks Marcia and all who responded to the deer tail. I'm not sure I have
this
>right. You let the tail dry out, but how long that takes with it sitting in
>Borax?
>Is the borax supposed to help the drying and cut down bacteria??? I really
>want to understand this process.
>
>This deer tail was very fresh when I got it so I need to know just how
long to
>leave it in the Borax. If I leave it too long, will that negatively affect
the
>hairs and if I don't leave it it long enough, is there a negative to that
>other than it not being fun to handle.
>
>I've made brushes before, but with dog hair cut from the nape of the neck. In
>fact the brush I made in college is still my favorite brush for doing splash
>type decoration.
>
>Warm regards,
>June (revealing her total ignorance of the process).
>----------
Dear June,
I am also interested in making a deer hair brush. What is the borax? Is
this the grocery store brand or the potters (borax)? . I have a friend who
is out deer hunting (for food reasons)...anyway I asked him to save the
tail. I will also try a home-made brush. I'll keep watching the post for
more info on the 'dear tail'
Thanks
Llewellyn
Stephen Mills on sun 15 nov 98
June,
I once dried out a Deer skin using a mixture of salt (to de-water it)
and Borax, it took several applications before it was completely dried.
The Borax performed two functions, to preserve, and to retain
flexability. That was some years ago. it's still OK
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , June Perry writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Thanks Marcia and all who responded to the deer tail. I'm not sure I have this
>right. You let the tail dry out, but how long that takes with it sitting in
>Borax?
>Is the borax supposed to help the drying and cut down bacteria??? I really
>want to understand this process.
>
>This deer tail was very fresh when I got it so I need to know just how long to
>leave it in the Borax. If I leave it too long, will that negatively affect the
>hairs and if I don't leave it it long enough, is there a negative to that
>other than it not being fun to handle.
>
>I've made brushes before, but with dog hair cut from the nape of the neck. In
>fact the brush I made in college is still my favorite brush for doing splash
>type decoration.
>
>Warm regards,
>June (revealing her total ignorance of the process).
>
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
June Perry on sun 15 nov 98
I have no idea why the borax! I just remember reading here on clayart. :-) I
used the borax that I have in the studio. I was also told (I believe by Steve
Mills), to also add salt to the mix.) I guess the combination helps dry it out
making it easier to handle. My plan is to add the salt and let it sit another
week or two before I tackle the job of cleaning and deboning it.
Warm regards,
June
Lee Love on sat 21 nov 98
I make brushes from the hair of my Akita dog (when she blows coat.)
The undercoat is soft. I've thought it might work better if it was cut
off, at maybe some place that doesn't show. :^)
I understand that Akita hair was the preferred type of hair that Hamada
used to make brushes. The undercoat is much softer than on a deer and
overall, I think it is longer. Also, you don't have to kill the critter
to get it. Z;^>
/(o\' Lee In Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
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