Veena Raghavan on mon 30 nov 98
I appeal to my fellow Clayarters for help. I want to make some ladles, but
do not know how to fire them at Cone 6 without leaving an unglazed patch
wherever the ladle touches the kiln shelf. I know that with low fire, one
can put the ladle on stilts, but what does one do for Cone 6? Is there any
method of firing fully-glazed ladles at this cone?
I would really appreciate any help from those experienced in making
ladles or related items. Thanks in advance.
Veena
Veena Raghavan
75124.2520@compuserve.com
Marcia Selsor on tue 1 dec 98
Years ago when I made ladles, I fired them resting on two spots on the
handles. They were long pulled handles with a thumb groove that let it
sit flat without rolling on the shelf. I wiped the glaze off slightly
where they rested.
Marci in Montana
Veena Raghavan wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I appeal to my fellow Clayarters for help. I want to make some ladles, but
> do not know how to fire them at Cone 6 without leaving an unglazed patch
> wherever the ladle touches the kiln shelf. I know that with low fire, one
> can put the ladle on stilts, but what does one do for Cone 6? Is there any
> method of firing fully-glazed ladles at this cone?
> I would really appreciate any help from those experienced in making
> ladles or related items. Thanks in advance.
> Veena
> Veena Raghavan
> 75124.2520@compuserve.com
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Dan / Joanne Taylor on tue 1 dec 98
Hi Veena,
We fire to cone 6 and use stilts all the time. No problem.
Dan Taylor in Medicine Hat, Alberta...Medalta country.
Veena Raghavan wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I appeal to my fellow Clayarters for help. I want to make some ladles, but
> do not know how to fire them at Cone 6 without leaving an unglazed patch
> wherever the ladle touches the kiln shelf. I know that with low fire, one
> can put the ladle on stilts, but what does one do for Cone 6? Is there any
> method of firing fully-glazed ladles at this cone?
> I would really appreciate any help from those experienced in making
> ladles or related items. Thanks in advance.
> Veena
> Veena Raghavan
> 75124.2520@compuserve.com
Debby Grant on tue 1 dec 98
Hi Veena,
I fire ladles at ^10. My ladle handles curve at the end and I leave the
very end bare of glaze. I set a stilt, the kind with several metal tips
at the place where the handle meets the scoop. The stilt leaves several
tiny marks which I grind smooth with a Dremel. Another possibility
is to leave the rim of the scoop bare of glaze and hang it off a fire
brick.
I hope this helps, Debby Grant in NH
Giddings, Maxine on tue 1 dec 98
Don't make ladles myself on a regular basis; however, you could get a tall
enough Kanthal wire type unit. These items are made to hold earrings and
other objects which would present a similar problem to the one you describe.
You may have to get the unit specially made, or you could perhaps make one
yourself by firing stilts (Or using kiln bricking and drilling holes through
it to receive the wire) tall enough for your ladles, stringing some of the
special wire across. Then, you would have to have a smallish hole made in
the tip of your handle. This would be an asset because the user could then
hang the finished product on the wall. I would use a colored stain inside
the perimeter of the hole, so that its after firing color would not be
distracting. Once the ladles have holes, you could place them on the tall
wire stilting for a glaze firing.
Maxine Giddings Clayworks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Veena Raghavan [SMTP:75124.2520@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 9:13 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: firing ladles at Cone 6
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I appeal to my fellow Clayarters for help. I want to make some ladles, but
> do not know how to fire them at Cone 6 without leaving an unglazed patch
> wherever the ladle touches the kiln shelf. I know that with low fire, one
> can put the ladle on stilts, but what does one do for Cone 6? Is there any
> method of firing fully-glazed ladles at this cone?
> I would really appreciate any help from those experienced in
> making
> ladles or related items. Thanks in advance.
> Veena
> Veena Raghavan
> 75124.2520@compuserve.com
lpskeen on tue 1 dec 98
Veena Raghavan wrote: put the ladle on stilts, but what does one do for
Cone 6? Is there any method of firing fully-glazed ladles at this cone?
Veena,
Those stilts will work fine at ^6, have used 'em many times and no
problems.
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Gordon on tue 1 dec 98
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I want to make some ladles, but do not know how to fire them at Cone 6
without leaving an unglazed patch wherever the ladle touches the kiln
shelf.
>Veena Raghavan
>75124.2520@compuserve.com
Veena- I was wondering about this kind of problem also- could you
fire them once at cone 6 with a patch unglazed and then add a low-fire
glaze to the patched part and fire them again at a low temp where the piece
could be stilted? This is the solution that I came up with but have not
gotten around to trying it.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Kathleen Gordon
Palo Alto,Ca
email:emgordon@batnet.com
voice:650-328-9164
"If things seem under control you are not going fast enough"
Mario Andretti
The Buchanans on tue 1 dec 98
I regularly fire my 6^ pottery on stilts as I have a bias against bare
bottoms. I like Roselli multi-point bars and the all metal stilts Axner
sells. You will have a stilt mark that can be ugly if the glaze is thick or
runny.
-----Original Message-----
From: Veena Raghavan <75124.2520@compuserve.com>
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 6:15 AM
Subject: firing ladles at Cone 6
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I appeal to my fellow Clayarters for help. I want to make some ladles, but
>do not know how to fire them at Cone 6 without leaving an unglazed patch
>wherever the ladle touches the kiln shelf. I know that with low fire, one
>can put the ladle on stilts, but what does one do for Cone 6? Is there any
>method of firing fully-glazed ladles at this cone?
> I would really appreciate any help from those experienced in making
>ladles or related items. Thanks in advance.
>Veena
>Veena Raghavan
>75124.2520@compuserve.com
Catherine Jarosz on tue 1 dec 98
Dear Veena ... sure wish I could draw you a picture of my
ladles but I'll try my best to use my limited vocabulary ... My
handles have a slight arc to them... after I pull them I drape them
over a large gallon jar covered in newspaper and let them dry enough
where I can still handle them and bend and cut and add the spoon
bowl .... Yes there will be 2 spots needing to be waxed , one on
the bottom side of the spoon and one at the top /bottom of the
handle... there is no way around it really but truth be told the
spoons are awesome and it doesnt take anything away form them to have
these bald spots...If you send me your e'mail address I'll forward
you a slide of a tureen with a spoon resting in front of it....
another tip is once the ladle is done yet still mallable you can
run it back and forth on a flat surface so the spoon will stay stable
in one spot and not tip etc... cat81257@aol.com
Stephen Mills on wed 2 dec 98
A friend of mine leaves the rim unglazed (not the pouring lip) and then
fires them upside-down with the handles hanging over the edge of the
shelf.
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , Veena Raghavan <75124.2520@compuserve.com> writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I appeal to my fellow Clayarters for help. I want to make some ladles, but
>do not know how to fire them at Cone 6 without leaving an unglazed patch
>wherever the ladle touches the kiln shelf. I know that with low fire, one
>can put the ladle on stilts, but what does one do for Cone 6? Is there any
>method of firing fully-glazed ladles at this cone?
> I would really appreciate any help from those experienced in making
>ladles or related items. Thanks in advance.
>Veena
>Veena Raghavan
>75124.2520@compuserve.com
>
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
Assumption Abbey on wed 2 dec 98
At 13:59 12/1/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I want to make some ladles, but do not know how to fire them at Cone 6
>without leaving an unglazed patch wherever the ladle touches the kiln
>shelf.
>>Veena Raghavan
>>75124.2520@compuserve.com
>
>
> Veena- I was wondering about this kind of problem also- could you
>fire them once at cone 6 with a patch unglazed and then add a low-fire
>glaze to the patched part and fire them again at a low temp where the piece
>could be stilted? This is the solution that I came up with but have not
>gotten around to trying it.
>Anyone have any thoughts on this?
>-------------
Dear Veena,
What about 'intentionally' just leaving the bottom section unglazed. Do
something fancy with design, raised, textured, flutted, anything planned
and executed in that particular area as unglazed and then incorporate some
of the same somewhere on the cup edge perhaps, or on the handle.....run
with it and do it as your planned idea. That should be ligitimate? Better
that than having a plate stuck on the end or having your kiln shelves
permanently dressed with ladles.
Llewellyn
>Kathleen Gordon
>Palo Alto,Ca
>email:emgordon@batnet.com
>voice:650-328-9164
>
>"If things seem under control you are not going fast enough"
> Mario Andretti
>
john a gibson on thu 3 dec 98
Veena, I know everyone says you can't use stilts to fire to ^6 because
they melt but I have done it more times than I can count and have maybe 1
post of a triangular stilt bend on me that I can remember. Doesn't make
it right but I have to experiment with the rules. If you want to do the
same , then maybe do a test yourself 1st . I have used this for ladles.
Good luck, JOHN.
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Joseph Herbert on thu 3 dec 98
Veena is asking about resting ladles in a kiln.
It seems to me I have seen a self-stilted ladle, a ladle with two little bumps
on the bowl that, when left free of glaze, supported the bowl above the kiln
shelf. You just need two bare spots on the bumps and one on the handle to
keep things from sticking.
Kathleen Gordon contributed the idea of adding a low-fire glaze to the patched
part and fire them again at a low temp where the piece
could be stilted.
Actually, "firing down" is common practice in the dinnerware trade. If you
look at the bottom of some higher end dinner ware, there are polite dots of
lower fired glaze covering stilt marks. This is most often seen in decorated
ware where one or several different temperature maturing glazes are used
sequentially to make the design on the piece. If the piece is to be re-fired
anyway, a couple dots of glaze to cover the stilt marks is not much of an
extra expense.
If the maturing temperatures of the glazes are properly chosen, it is not
necessary to protect previously fired glazes by stilting. The earlier glazes
don't melt at the lower temperatures and can just sit on the kiln shelves.
Yes, I do look at the bottom of almost every piece of pottery I come in
contact with. No, the food I dump in my lap is not connected with this habit.
There are other ways to explain that.
Joseph Herbert
JJHerb@aol.com
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