Paul Lewing on fri 8 jan 99
In one of my materials references the other day, I noticed an analysis
of this frit 3211. It was listed as 1 mole CaO, 1.1 mole B2O3.
Sounded like synthetic colemanite to me, so I asked today at my supply
store about it. They had no listing of it in any of their frit lists
or catalogues. Anybody ever heard of it or know anything about it?
Seems like it would be a great material.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Ron Roy on sat 9 jan 99
Hi Paul,
Got this from 4sight - the IMC materials data base.
It's a Ferro frit but you will have to check to see if it is still
available. I don't think it is - the info in 4sight says it was produced
till 1978.
CaO - 42.0%
B2O3 - 58.0%
I still think 3134 (sub P-54, Hommel14, General 367-A, Fusion F12, GF 111)
is the best one for most situations. The subs will all have slightly
different analysis so it is best to work with the company data for each
frit.
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>In one of my materials references the other day, I noticed an analysis
>of this frit 3211. It was listed as 1 mole CaO, 1.1 mole B2O3.
>Sounded like synthetic colemanite to me, so I asked today at my supply
>store about it. They had no listing of it in any of their frit lists
>or catalogues. Anybody ever heard of it or know anything about it?
>Seems like it would be a great material.
>Paul Lewing, Seattle
Ron Roy
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Scarborough, Ontario
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Edouard Bastarache on sat 9 jan 99
Hello Paul ,
all i have is the chemical analysis of frit #3211 as sold in 1979
by l'Atelier Julien in Quebec City.
Julien Cloutier, the owner, retired last year but was a very fine teacher
of technology.He is the author of "Materiaux du ceramiste quebecois"
Here is his home adress in case you want to get in touch with him:
Julien Cloutier
4643 St-Felix
Cap-Rouge
Quebec
G1Y 3B5
418-657-5520
CANADA
Here is what i have on this frit:
M.W.......133.4
CAO.......1.000
B2O3......1.111
EXP........7.5
FUSION..1750 F
Later,
Edouard Bastarache
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/
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> De : Paul Lewing
> A : CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Objet : Frit 3211
> Date : 8 janvier, 1999 11:54
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> In one of my materials references the other day, I noticed an analysis
> of this frit 3211. It was listed as 1 mole CaO, 1.1 mole B2O3.
> Sounded like synthetic colemanite to me, so I asked today at my supply
> store about it. They had no listing of it in any of their frit lists
> or catalogues. Anybody ever heard of it or know anything about it?
> Seems like it would be a great material.
> Paul Lewing, Seattle
Edouard Bastarache on sat 9 jan 99
Hello Paul,
addendum to my last message:
Sial in Montreal carries Frit #3211,
so it is still available in North America.
Their e-mail is sialsales@videotron.can,
they should tell you where they get it.
Later,
Edouard Bastarache
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/
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> De : Paul Lewing
> A : CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Objet : Frit 3211
> Date : 8 janvier, 1999 11:54
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> In one of my materials references the other day, I noticed an analysis
> of this frit 3211. It was listed as 1 mole CaO, 1.1 mole B2O3.
> Sounded like synthetic colemanite to me, so I asked today at my supply
> store about it. They had no listing of it in any of their frit lists
> or catalogues. Anybody ever heard of it or know anything about it?
> Seems like it would be a great material.
> Paul Lewing, Seattle
Tom Buck on sun 10 jan 99
Paul Lewing asked about Ferro Frit 3211. It is not on any list I have on
file so I presume it is not longer offered by Ferro (like 3185 the Na2O
analogue). There are many frits made that have 1 mole B2O3 combined with 2
to 3 moles of SiO2 and 1 mole flux oxides (CaO/Na2O most common but there
are others). NB no Al2O3 is usually included. Nowadays I understand that
only one company, Fusion Ceramics, of Ohio, offers a list of its frits and
their composition. I am told that Fusion will provide such a list on
request: 160 Scio road SE, Carrollton OH 44615 fone 216-627-5821.
Tom Buck ) tel: 905-389-2339
& snailmail: 373 East 43rd St. Hamilton ON L8T 3E1 Canada
(westend Lake Ontario, province of Ontario, Canada).
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