Karen Shapiro on sat 12 dec 98
Hello Clayarters,
Does anyone know of a good comprehensive listing of frits, their compositions
and what to substitute for what? It gets frustrating trying to find this info
in one place.
Thanks,
Karen in chilly Sonoma where the raku kiln is firing perfectly!
Dale Mark on sun 13 dec 98
Ceramics Monthly May 1978 article "Frit Formulas" by William Hunt.
Lists compositions of Ferro, Hommel and Pemco. Percentage composition,
molecular formula, coefficient of thermal expansion, melting point
(range),incipient fusion point, molecular weight, and a list of equivalent
frits.
Dale Mark
Hamilton, Ont.
Tom Buck on sun 13 dec 98
Karen Shapiro:
If you can order a reprint of Ceramics Monthly May 1978 Pp 48-54,
you will get an excellent compilation. It lists Ferro, Pemco, and Hommell
frits. Bill Hunt bless him did this and it remains valid today although
some new frits have come on the market.
Also, you can ask Fusion Ceramics for a list of its frits. Write
the company at 160 Scio road southeast, Carrollton, Ohio, 44615 USA or
telephone (216) 627-5821.
From other posts on Clayart, I think some new frit-makers have
appeared on the scene. Perhaps some nice CA person will say who, etc.
Finally, Tony Hansen, of Digitalfire Corp., Medicine Hat,
Alberta, Canada is preparing an exhaustive compilation of ceramic
materials, due to be released in 1999. I understand Tony will provide
full details of all the exisiting frits he has been able to find.
Til later.
Tom Buck ) tel:
905-389-2339 & snailmail: 373 East 43rd St. Hamilton ON L8T 3E1 Canada
(westend Lake Ontario, province of Ontario, Canada).
Greg Lamont on sun 13 dec 98
At 10:12 AM 12/12/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello Clayarters,
>
>Does anyone know of a good comprehensive listing of frits, their compositions
>and what to substitute for what? It gets frustrating trying to find this
info
>in one place.
>Thanks,
>Karen in chilly Sonoma where the raku kiln is firing perfectly!
Hi Karen,
One source I know of is in the compendium section of Susan Peterson's
book**The Craft and Art of Clay**
I have the 2nd edition and in that the info is on pp. 333-336.
Greg
Greg Lamont
3011 Northwood Dr.
Ames, Iowa 50010-4750
515/233-3442
gdlamont@iastate.edu
Karen Gringhuis on sun 13 dec 98
A listing of frits & their compositions and similar frits is in
Cushing's HANDBOOK avail by sending check for $24 to:
Elsie Cushing RR 1 Box 236 1497 Waterwells Rd.
Alfred Station NY 14803
HANDBOOK also incl. tons of other useful info and over 100
glaze recipes across all 3 temp ranges; clay compositions,
slip recipes, clay body recipes, list of types of pots to make,
book list, how much wgt to make a given size form, diagrams
of lids and how NOT to make them, glaze calculation forms
and instructions, how to construct your own C/9 base glaze
, how to CONVERT A C/9 GLAZE TO C/6 - and even inspirational
quotes.
I don't leave home without it.
The $24 includes postage. Karen Gringhuis
Earl Brunner on mon 14 dec 98
Another one is Advanced Ceramic Manual: Technical Data for the Studio Potter
by John Conrad
Greg Lamont wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> At 10:12 AM 12/12/98 EST, you wrote:
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Hello Clayarters,
> >
> >Does anyone know of a good comprehensive listing of frits, their compositions
> >and what to substitute for what? It gets frustrating trying to find this
> info
> >in one place.
> >Thanks,
> >Karen in chilly Sonoma where the raku kiln is firing perfectly!
>
> Hi Karen,
>
> One source I know of is in the compendium section of Susan Peterson's
> book**The Craft and Art of Clay**
> I have the 2nd edition and in that the info is on pp. 333-336.
>
> Greg
> Greg Lamont
> 3011 Northwood Dr.
> Ames, Iowa 50010-4750
> 515/233-3442
> gdlamont@iastate.edu
Ron Roy on tue 15 dec 98
Just a word to the wise - always double check the analysis for any
materials you find. There may be typos and often authors simply copy them
from other books and the errors get carried forward.
It is always best to check with the original supplier to make sure you are
on the same page.
Often your suppy of certain materials will vary simply from say mine
because they are from a different mine.
I recently got some analysis from Fusion on their frits and the K2O and
Na2O were reversed.
If you have a fax machine and can find a number for the mine or
manufacturer you will have the correct numbers the nest day.
RR
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Another one is Advanced Ceramic Manual: Technical Data for the Studio Potter
>by John Conrad
>
>Greg Lamont wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> At 10:12 AM 12/12/98 EST, you wrote:
>> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> >Hello Clayarters,
>> >
>> >Does anyone know of a good comprehensive listing of frits, their
>>compositions
>> >and what to substitute for what? It gets frustrating trying to find this
>> info
>> >in one place.
>> >Thanks,
>> >Karen in chilly Sonoma where the raku kiln is firing perfectly!
>>
>> Hi Karen,
>>
>> One source I know of is in the compendium section of Susan Peterson's
>> book**The Craft and Art of Clay**
>> I have the 2nd edition and in that the info is on pp. 333-336.
>>
>> Greg
>> Greg Lamont
>> 3011 Northwood Dr.
>> Ames, Iowa 50010-4750
>> 515/233-3442
>> gdlamont@iastate.edu
Ron Roy
93 Pegasus Trail
Scarborough, Ontario
Canada M1G 3N8
Tel: 416-439-2621
Fax: 416-438-7849
Web page: http://digitalfire.com/education/people/ronroy.htm
Marvin S. Flowerman on wed 16 dec 98
Karen:
If you can send me a mailing address I will be glad to send you a copy of my
notes from glaze chemistry which I believe have what you are looking for.
If you are concerned about privacy, I can understand. In that case, I will
try to extract what I can and send the info to you by e-mail. You decide.
Or, if you have a fax address available I could do that too.
Marvin Flowerman (marvpots@aol.com)
Joseph Carames on sun 20 dec 98
On Sat, 12 Dec 1998 10:12:06 EST Karen Shapiro
writes:
>----------------------------Original
>message----------------------------
>Hello Clayarters,
>
>Does anyone know of a good comprehensive listing of frits, their
>compositions
>and what to substitute for what? It gets frustrating trying to find
>this info
>in one place.
>Thanks,
>Karen in chilly Sonoma where the raku kiln is firing perfectly!
>
Hi
I don't know about finding it in one place but there is a book with some
good chemistry info - Ceramics Handbook A Guideto Glaze Calculations
Materials, and Processes by Charles Mckee
I also think some of the glaze software avail;able out there has
information on frit.
Good Luck
Joseph Carames
Good Holiday sales to all of us!!!
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Joanne Van Bezooyen on tue 22 dec 98
This looks like a good opportunity for someone to research, write, and
publish! Any of you up to it?
Joanne
Joseph Carames wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> On Sat, 12 Dec 1998 10:12:06 EST Karen Shapiro
> writes:
> >----------------------------Original
> >message----------------------------
> >Hello Clayarters,
> >
> >Does anyone know of a good comprehensive listing of frits, their
> >compositions
> >and what to substitute for what? It gets frustrating trying to find
> >this info
> >in one place.
> >Thanks,
> >Karen in chilly Sonoma where the raku kiln is firing perfectly!
> >
> Hi
>
> I don't know about finding it in one place but there is a book with some
> good chemistry info - Ceramics Handbook A Guideto Glaze Calculations
> Materials, and Processes by Charles Mckee
>
> I also think some of the glaze software avail;able out there has
> information on frit.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Joseph Carames
>
> Good Holiday sales to all of us!!!
>
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Frank Gaydos on wed 23 dec 98
I'm positive Ceramics Monthly published this complete listing a few years
ago, But forget what issue. Also,this question comes up on occasion and is
most likely in the archives.
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
...need a complete listing of frits...
This looks like a good opportunity for someone to research, write, and
publish! Any of you up to it?
Joanne
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