Norm Straker on sun 13 dec 98
Hey Folks,
I am planning on building a glaze and clay trap in my outdoor studio so I
don't have to dump chemicals into the sewer.
I have heard you can use a 5gallon bucket as a trap by putting it under
the sink to drain into first. The heavy particals sink and clean water
comes out of a drain connected at the top just below the rim. Has anyone
use something like this, or any better working ideas??
Thanks, Norm! 8^o
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Jennifer Boyer on mon 14 dec 98
I use this system and it's fine: but instead of a 5 gal. bucket I used a
rubber horse watering bucket that has one flat side: it was easy to cut a
hole in the flat side and use standard plumbing parts to connect into the
outlet pipe. My sink drain just runs straight into the bucket. Only
problem has been a fairly intense smell once in a while, so I mix in clorox
when that happens.
Take Care
Jennifer, firing the LAST preholiday firing...phew.
Norm Straker wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hey Folks,
>
> I am planning on building a glaze and clay trap in my outdoor studio so I
> don't have to dump chemicals into the sewer.
>
> I have heard you can use a 5gallon bucket as a trap by putting it under
> the sink to drain into first. The heavy particals sink and clean water
> comes out of a drain connected at the top just below the rim. Has anyone
> use something like this, or any better working ideas??
>
> Thanks, Norm! 8^o
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Martin Howard on mon 14 dec 98
I just provided my new pottery with such a trap. I used the normal
plastic piping according to Building Regulations, but between the bottom
of the sink and the outlet to the septic tank put a normal cold water
tank.
The inlet was from the top on one side and the outlet near the top on
the opposite side. The result is that all that goes in has time to
settle before it passes onwards.
Actually, in my case it would not really matter is everything went into
the septic tank, because it is all reused on the garden. Even the waste
water, after one settling tank, is pumped out of the second to water the
vegetable garden.
Martin Howard BSc MRTPI araneajo@gn.apc.org
Webbs Cottage Press and Pottery
http://www.gn.apc.org/webbs_cottage_press
Greg Lamont on mon 14 dec 98
At 02:09 PM 12/13/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hey Folks,
>
>I am planning on building a glaze and clay trap in my outdoor studio so I
>don't have to dump chemicals into the sewer.
>
>I have heard you can use a 5gallon bucket as a trap by putting it under
>the sink to drain into first. The heavy particals sink and clean water
>comes out of a drain connected at the top just below the rim. Has anyone
>use something like this, or any better working ideas??
>
>Thanks, Norm! 8^o
Hi Norm,
Send me your snail-mail address and I'll send you a copy of the plans that
Ric Swenson supplied for a 5 gal. bucket trap from Ceramics Monthly about
20 years ago. It's what I use and it works great! If you're not into
building one, there is a similar product marketed as a plaster trap for
dentists. It also works well, but costs about 50 bucks for a 5 gal. bucket
and a couple of pieces of flexible tubing. I can send you their address.
Greg
Greg Lamont
3011 Northwood Dr.
Ames, Iowa 50010-4750
515/233-3442
gdlamont@iastate.edu
Jim Horvitz on mon 14 dec 98
In reply to Norm Straker I have been using an Olsen 5 gal plaster trap under
a sink and it works well. I got the name on Clayart two years ago and have
been completely happy. The unit is very easy to install. Jim Horvitz Rancho
Mirage Ca. Hjh4blh@aol.com
To contact them
OLSEN LABORATORIES
P.O. BOX 16
MT. PROSPECT IL, 60056
PHONE 414 284 9755
FAX 414 284 7448
.
Les Crimp on mon 14 dec 98
Norm -
We have one in our Guild studio in Parksville, B.C. virtually exactly as you
describe it and ours works like a charm. (Arrowsmith Potters Guild)
Les in Nanoose Bay, B.C. on Vancouver Island. Come and see us next July and
join in the fun.
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hey Folks,
>
>I am planning on building a glaze and clay trap in my outdoor studio so I
>don't have to dump chemicals into the sewer.
>
>I have heard you can use a 5gallon bucket as a trap by putting it under
>the sink to drain into first. The heavy particals sink and clean water
>comes out of a drain connected at the top just below the rim. Has anyone
>use something like this, or any better working ideas??
>
>Thanks, Norm! 8^o
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>
>
Carol Seidman on mon 14 dec 98
Hi Norm:
In my basement studio the sink has a pump which brings the water up
to the street sewer level and I don't want to mess with that plumbing.
I use a bucket of water on a sturdy crate to rinse everything related to
clay. The bucket is raised on the crate to be kind to my back. Pour off
the clear water on top once a week and let the sludge dry up to a
pancake. Three buckets rotating in various drying stages make a good
team. I even give my apron a wash in this bucket. Saves water too. Hope this helps Carol S
Dai Scott on tue 15 dec 98
I've also wondered about a clay trap for the sink. If you just use a
5-gallon bucket to drain into, with an outlet near the top, what prevents
the clay getting all mixed up with the clearer water every time you empty
your sink? We use a very large plastic garbage can beside the sink and dump
all our work buckets (clay and glaze) into this can; every morning before I
start work, I bail the clear water off the top into the sink. The downside
is that, eventually, the garbage can fills up and you have to dump it and
start over. So, it gets emptied into a corner pit of our large yard, and
when THAT gets full, the dried clay gets chipped up and taken to the dump.
I suppose I could be firing these dried "chips" to make them inert, but this
whole process is already taking too much time and energy. Sometimes I think
that all the things associated with making pots takes 'way more time than
the actual making of the pots! P.S. A little bleach in the garbage can
keeps things from smelling too swampy.
Dai Scott, Kelowna, B.C. where the balmy wind has removed all traces of
snow, and I saw a primrose growing in a friend's garden yesterday!
Bobbi Bassett on tue 15 dec 98
Norm
We've been using a claytrap built from specs in an old CM. It's been in use
continually ( with an annual cleanout), for 12 years and we've had no
problems. Yes, it uses a 5 gallon container. Check out the CM website for
their index... If you can't find it, email me and I'll did it up.
Bobbi in PA
Happy Solstice (let the light return)
Earl Brunner on tue 15 dec 98
I have water in my studio, but no drain (I'm in the garage). We have a stressed
slab for our house and I would void the manufacture's warranty by attempting to
drain. I have a 5 gallon bucket under the sink that is raised on a couple of br
the top of that bucket I drilled a hole and attached a short horizontal piece of
which when the bucket gets full directs the overflow into a second 5 gallon buck
pour the second bucket down the sewer cleanout when and if it ever gets very ful
of the heavy sediment never makes it into the second bucket. If I had a drain,
keep the same arrangement and just send the overflow from the second bucket into
drain. This is similar to the drain we had in college.
Jim Horvitz wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> In reply to Norm Straker I have been using an Olsen 5 gal plaster tra
> a sink and it works well. I got the name on Clayart two years ago and have
> been completely happy. The unit is very easy to install. Jim Horvitz Rancho
> Mirage Ca. Hjh4blh@aol.com
> To contact them
> OLSEN LABORATORIES
> P.O. BOX 16
> MT. PROSPECT IL, 60056
>
> PHONE 414 284 9755
> FAX 414 284 7448
>
> .
Dan / Joanne Taylor on tue 15 dec 98
I have used an undersink "settling" system for 10 years now with good results.
I use two 5 gal. containers, like paint may come in, or various baking industry
ingredients. The sink drains straight into the first with the pipe going to
within a couple inches of the bottom of the pail. The pipe connecting the two
pails together goes from a couple of inches from the top of the first pail,
into the second, and again down to within a couple of inches from the bottom of
the second pail. The pipe going out from the second pail is a couple of inches
from the top of the pail, goes into a U-trap, and into the sewer system. This
allows your muddy water two chances to "settle" before hitting the sewer. When
the sludge builds up, scoop it out and dispose of it and you'rer back in
business!
Dan Taylor - Medicine Hat, AB
Ric Swenson on wed 16 dec 98
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Norm
>
> We've been using a claytrap built from specs in an old CM. It's been in use
> continually ( with an annual cleanout), for 12 years and we've had no
> problems. Yes, it uses a 5 gallon container. Check out the CM website for
> their index... If you can't find it, email me and I'll did it up.
>
> Bobbi in PA
> Happy Solstice (let the light return)
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I wrote an article for CM in DECEMBER 1978 issue (p.33) that shows a
diagram for such an INEXPENSIVE STUDIO SINK TRAP"
..............
they are now commercially available.......or you can build your
own......dentists use them......as do docs who make casts....with
plaster.
I can post an addresss late with name of commercial outfit....it's in my
home files.....
or email me with your snail mail address and I will send you a copy of
the article........
Happy Potting....and Happy Holidays....
Ric Swenson
artsovt@sover.net
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