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help for hurtin' hands

updated sat 26 dec 98

 

Lois Ruben Aronow on fri 18 dec 98

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I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart=21
No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
(Except stopping clay, of course).

anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
wits end. I don=3Bt really care how they look, only that they stop
feeling like mummy hands.

Catherine Jarosz on sat 19 dec 98

Hi Lois..
I had to chuckle at your plea ... I like to say i have the before you
use our great product picture of my hands lol ... I got unsolicited
advice from my doctor to try using farmers friend... you can find it
at those health food stores that cater to those natural product
fanatics ... it comes in a tin and looks like vaseline... I also
like beeswax but this is a really good product that helps in the
long term not just immediate like bees wax ... you could try udder
cream too found at most feed and seed stores .. hope this helps ..
cat

Chris Huske on sat 19 dec 98

Vaseline helps a lot. Try two things . . .

1) Vaseline your hands before working with clay (it doesn't change the way clay
2) Put vaseline on your hands before bed and then ware cloth gloves to sleep in

Continue to use a really good hand cream the rest of the time.

Joanne Van Bezooyen on sat 19 dec 98

Lois....I've successfully thrown clay with latex gloves. Get a snug
fit....then get used to it...I can even preserve a manicure!
Joanne

Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
> (Except stopping clay, of course).
>
> anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
> wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
> feeling like mummy hands.

Bob Schroeder on sat 19 dec 98



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From: Lois Ruben Aronow
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Help for hurtin' hands
Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 6:53 AM

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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>I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!


I am a nurse and a potter which is a double whammy. A bunch of us at the
hospital get together and order some great stuff for our own use from a
real mom and pop "manufacturer " in Montana and all swear by it.
Apparently we are their biggest customers but the usual disclaimers apply.
If you are interested write to them at:

Marcha Labs, Inc.
P.O. Box 186
Terry, MT 59349

I assume since they are so small they have no web site or 800 number. Hope
this helps. Becky Schroeder

Tom Wirt on sat 19 dec 98

Subject: Help for hurtin' hands


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.

anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
feeling like mummy hands.



Ahh it must finally be winter....the annual chapped hands thread!

Someone posted the suggestion last year, and I've found it has helped.....Wash
your hand thoroughly when you are switching from wet to dry work and at the end
of the day. By thoroughly, I mean with soap AND a hand scrub brush. What's
wrecking your hands is the little bit of clay left in he pores and the corners
of the nails. As we all know, clay loves water and the nearest water is in your
skin. It pulls the water out which can then evaporate to the air.

The best "cream" we've found is little tubes of pure hydrous lanolin. It's
sticky, gooey, smells like sheep, but it works. Available at most drug stores
and departments. Rub it in after you've scrubbed like a surgeon....but don't
touch bisqueware afterwards.

Tom Wirt
Clay Coyote Pottery
17614 240th St.
Hutchinson, MN 55350
320-587-2599
claypot@hutchtel.net

Bob Schroeder on sat 19 dec 98



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From: becky schroeder
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Help for hurtin' hands


silly me! forgoet to tell you the name of the great stuff for hands from
Marcha Labs. It's called Wool Wax Creme. becky .

Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on sat 19 dec 98

How about straight vitamin e or Vitamin E cream? I found that my throwing had
been hampered for years by my very dry skin. I use Vitamin E cream every day,
and right before I throw I swathe my hands in Avon Moisture Therapy for very dry
skin. that provides some help. Lucerin is also very good as a barrier
cream---at least for me. You can do straight Vitamin E by buying the capsules,
breaking them open and rubbing the oil directly into your skin.
Sandy

-----Original Message-----
From: Lois Ruben Aronow [SMTP:gilois@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 8:54 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Help for hurtin' hands

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
-------------------
I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
(Except stopping clay, of course).

anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
feeling like mummy hands.

Edouard Bastarache on sat 19 dec 98

Hello Lois,

as a barrier cream try Travabon made by Stockhausen,
a german company; it is sold in North America by safety
equipment stores. It is the best we have found so far.

Later,


Edouard Bastarache M.D. ( Occupational & Environmental Medicine )
in " La Belle Province"
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/

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> De : Lois Ruben Aronow
> A : CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Objet : Help for hurtin' hands
> Date : 18 dicembre, 1998 08:53
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
> (Except stopping clay, of course).
>
> anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
> wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
> feeling like mummy hands.

Thonas C. Curran on sat 19 dec 98

Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
> (Except stopping clay, of course).
>
> anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
> wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
> feeling like mummy hands.

Dear Mummy hands, I purchased a "severe dry skin care" lotion from CVS
Pharmacy a few months ago, and that stuff seems better than other things
I have tried. I did use Bag Balm a few years ago, but my husband
wrinkled up his nose every time I put it on... Another problem along
with the dry skin is the dreaded "hang nail". (Why cracked skin around
the fingernails is called hangnail, I'll never know.) I hate hangnails
because they trap glaze materials which make hand contact by mistake. I
am apt to bump them and yelp, too. NEW SKIN is my only salvation, but
not the aerosol spray I got once when there was nothing else on the
shelf. Usually the little bottle looks like fingernail polish with an
applicator in the screw top. You paint it on the sore/hang nail/cut,
and it fills in the gap and helps with healing. You can get in
pharmacies and at some super markets---in the aisle with first aid
stuff.
Another thought: I have psoriasis on hands, and people at shows are
always asking if it's the clay that does it. I tell them that clay (at
least porcelain and fine grained clays) act almost as a mud pack.
Actually, most of my trouble arises when I go on a glazing binge and am
continually washing my hands, etc.
May your hands be supple and smooth in 1999! No more King Tut
stuff... cnc

Christine Avery on sat 19 dec 98

Must be the day for me to reply!
I too suffer from dry skin (and allergies to most lotions on top of it all)

A couple of things I have had success with are

1. silicon glove - it is a barrier lotion - if you can stand the feel
(don't put it on when overglazing)

2. Eucerin cream - not the lotion. totally slather it on your hands at
night then wear cotton gloves to bed.

if you really want it to soak in put plastic or latex gloves on instead of
the cotton. (one doctor had me tie plastic bags around my hands - unusual
but it worked)

3. Neutrogena hand cream - again not the lotion and apply the same way as
the Eucerin

Reapply regularily throughout the day

hope you can find something that works. It can be very painful.

Christine from Nodak where in winter everything is dry including the snow!


> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
> (Except stopping clay, of course).
>
> anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
> wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop

Louis Katz on sat 19 dec 98

Try this for your hands.
Sometimes the simple things are the best.
Wash your hands carefully and use vegetable oil on them. My Dermatologist
suggested it, he uses Crisco. Soemtimes I go high end and use olive oil.
Louis
--
Louis Katz
lkatz@falcon.tamucc.edu
NCECA Director At Large
Texas A&M-CC Division of Visual and Performing Arts Webmaster (512)
994-5987

Farren on sat 19 dec 98

You can buy gloves at the pharmacy which you wear at night after smearing
vaseline or another heavy cream (Eucerin cream, not lotion, works great)
over them. This is supposed to work really well and keep your hands from
cracking. I don't have as big a problem but I use the Eucerin at night and
it really helps. It's very greasy so don't touch the bisque with them
unless the cream or vaseline is absorbed. This shouldn't be a problem if you
use it at night. If you can stand the gloves, that's supposed to be a great
way to keep moisture in your hands. Hope it works for you.

Patricia

Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
> (Except stopping clay, of course).
>
> anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
> wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
> feeling like mummy hands.

tmartens on sat 19 dec 98

I have posted this recipe to Clayart before. It really works for dry,
sore and cracked skin. I know the recipe looks odd but it really does
work
250g baby talcum powder ( the smallish size
200g Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline)
2 fl oz Glycerine
2fl oz Eucalyptus Oil
Mix all together thoroughly and using a spatula put back into jars.
Toni Martens Durban South Africa


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
-------------------
I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
(Except stopping clay, of course).

anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
feeling like mummy hands.

Veena Raghavan on sat 19 dec 98

Lois,
I have also had problems with dry hands. Someone suggested using
Avon's Silicon Glove, and I have found it helps a lot. There are barrier
creams available from craft and art supply houses, but they tend to be much
more expensive..
Hope this helps you and your hurting hands.
Veena
Veena Raghavan
75124.2520@compuserve.com

Don Prey on sun 20 dec 98

Whitehall labs makes a barrier cream that is effective. My tube is at another
location so I can't check, but from memory it is Kerodex 71 (or something
quite similar). They make one for wet work and one for dry.....this is the
wet work one. It is not expensive and worth a try. I used it back east in
the winter when the indoor (and outdoor) air was very dry.
Don Prey in Oregon, where I don't have that problem anymore.

doug honthaas on sun 20 dec 98

At 08:53 AM 12/18/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>-------------------
>I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
>No amount of lotion seems to help. I
>
As an herbalist/potter I have a few suggestions to help your hands:
1) You need to protect and feed your skin. Try and find a quality,
locally make( if possible) organic cream made with a olive oil and bees wax
as a base and (hopefully) some of the following herbs: CALENDULA, mallow,
comfrey, greater celendine, lavender, echenacia, ladies mantle,costmary
(just to name a few standards). These herbs will facilitae the healing,
afford protection and feed your skin. Keep in mind that the skin has the
ability to absorb (think of all the drugs now administered through patches
these days) and do not put anything on your skin that you do not want to eat.
2) Take care to protect your hands (ruber gloves) from chemicals,
glazes.etc.
3) Apply hand cream often and work in deeply.
4) Most lotions are just to thin to help a potters hands.
5) You can also purchase lanolin (hydrous) at the drug store in one pound
cans for about $8.00. It can be very healing and protective.

P.S. I know nothing about barrier creams but some folks swear by them. I
would want to know what they are made of before I used them!

jack on sun 20 dec 98

Udder balm for cows (aka bag balm), put it on before you throw and it has a
nice medicated smell. Silicone glove from Avon is pretty good as is creamy
petroleum jelly or if its really bad wear plastic gloves with your favorite
hand goop inside to bed.

Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
> (Except stopping clay, of course).
>
> anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
> wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
> feeling like mummy hands.

C. A. Sanger on sun 20 dec 98

An old potter's trick (yes, I learned it from an old potter!)--after you
finish all your washing, etc., rub about 1 tablespoon of plain vinegar
all over your hands. Then rinse your hands and pat dry. (Never rub
your hands dry--it stresses the skin furthur.) If you dislike the
vinegar smell, rub a drop or two of vanilla on your hands.
If your hands are really bad, slather medicated vasoline on them
and wear disposable vinyl gloves for a couple hours. The heat from your
skin will cause the vasoline to absorb into and soften your hands.

C. A. Sanger
ShardRock Clay Studio
319 North C
Herington, KS 67449

Tom Herman on sun 20 dec 98

At 02:46 PM 12/19/98 EST, Thonas C. Curran wrote:

> Another problem along
>with the dry skin is the dreaded "hang nail". (Why cracked skin around
>the fingernails is called hangnail, I'll never know.) I hate hangnails
>because they trap glaze materials which make hand contact by mistake. I
>am apt to bump them and yelp, too. NEW SKIN is my only salvation, but
>not the aerosol spray I got once when there was nothing else on the
>shelf.

I use Crazy Glue to fill in these cracks, and the cracks all over my hands
from my work. I glue the cracks >open<, not closed. This keeps them from
hurting and getting any worse. The glue is pushed out as the skin heals.
Actually, I use the glue for cracks all over my hands.

tom herman Augusta, NJ farrier
therman@crystal.palace.net

Vince Pitelka on sun 20 dec 98

>> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
>> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
>> (Except stopping clay, of course).

Lois -
In the past I have had serious trouble with dry, cracked skin. For whatever
reason it does not bother me as much any more. My best treatment is Eucerin
protective skin cream massaged into the hands very well before throwing or
glazing, and Neutragena hand cream massaged into the hands in the evening
and the morning (and anytime inbetween if skin is dry).
Good luck -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

millie carpenter on mon 21 dec 98

Really high end is to buy organic almond oil in the health food store.
really wonderful stuff in the day time and at night heavily oil then
slather with vasoline and put on the old fashioned white cotton gloves
that we used to wear in the 50's. makes me feel really elegant in my
flannel granny gown at bed time.

millie in Md getting a fire extinguisher ready for tomorrow and the
last night of chanukkah


> > Wash your hands carefully and use vegetable oil on them. My Dermatologist
> > suggested it, he uses Crisco. Soemtimes I go high end and use olive oil.
> > Louis
> > --
> > Louis Katz
> > lkatz@falcon.tamucc.edu
> > NCECA Director At Large
> > Texas A&M-CC Division of Visual and Performing Arts Webmaster (512)
> > 994-5987

John Rodgers on mon 21 dec 98

-- [ From: John Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Interesting comments about Crazyglue. That product, being one of the super
glues, is really a cyanoacrylate, and it uses the moisture present to go to
set. I have used it to close cuts, sometimes nasty ones, and it really works
.....instantly. But never to hold a cut or crack open. That is a new one.
Good stuff...seals the wound. But it better be clean, or infection can set
in.

A variation of this material is used in Europe to bond severed blood vessels
together, end to end. There are special little tools to hold the vessels
open in a circle, and the bonding agent is applied and the ends brought
together. Works. Don't know about re-inforcing or if it is used on major
vessels or not. but seems to be ok for other things.

Great stuff!!!

John Rodgers
In Alabama
-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------

Date: Sunday, 20-Dec-98 08:58 PM

From: Tom Herman \ Internet: (therman@crystal.palace.net)
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART \ Internet: (clayart@lsv.uky.
edu)

Subject: Re: Help for hurtin' hands

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
At 02:46 PM 12/19/98 EST, Thonas C. Curran wrote:

> Another problem along
>with the dry skin is the dreaded "hang nail". (Why cracked skin around
>the fingernails is called hangnail, I'll never know.) I hate hangnails
>because they trap glaze materials which make hand contact by mistake. I
>am apt to bump them and yelp, too. NEW SKIN is my only salvation, but
>not the aerosol spray I got once when there was nothing else on the
>shelf.

I use Crazy Glue to fill in these cracks, and the cracks all over my hands
from my work. I glue the cracks >open<, not closed. This keeps them from
hurting and getting any worse. The glue is pushed out as the skin heals.
Actually, I use the glue for cracks all over my hands.

tom herman Augusta, NJ farrier
therman@crystal.palace.net


-------- REPLY, End of original message --------

The Allens on mon 21 dec 98

Since I started adding a small amount of Clorox to my throwing water and the=
pan
where I wash my hands between tasks, my hands have gotten much, much better.

Carla Allen
ridgerun=40scrtc.blue.net

: Terraopera on tue 22 dec 98

I use hydrophylic ointment, buy it by the pound from the pharmicist. I find it
to be the only way to survive the clay and PA winters. Good luck

Indianapolis Art Center on tue 22 dec 98

I know this sounds goofy, but I use three products- two are made by Mary
Kay. One is the body lotion and the other is hand cream. Both are very
rich. The other product I use is called Glysolid. It is sold to hair
dressers/salon artists and is exactly what it is called: solid glycerin.
One of my students bought it for me as a present. BTW, I am a fabric
artist and we have the same problems with dry cracked hands.

Stephanie Robertson
Exhibitions Associate (The Indianapolis Art Center)
and Fabric Artist

Jennifer Boyer on tue 22 dec 98

There have been a lot of good suggestions on this but just remember all of thi
is subject to the senstivities of each person: I'm allergic to lanolin, so
Eucerin, Bag Balm and a lot of other products are out: I use vegetable oil bas
products from health food stores. I'd say starting with veg oil or vaseline is
good, since there are no additives. I've also used a prescription product calle
Lachydrin: it has lactic acid which is supposed to rehydrate your skin. My
dermatologist suggested it.

Also I've had good luck washing my hands with antibacterial soap after work: I
think some skin problems stem from critters in the clay and glazes.

Happy holidays!
Jennifer in (finally) snowy VT


Tom Wirt wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Subject: Help for hurtin' hands
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried everything.
>


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Thistle Hill Pottery
Vermont USA
http://www.vermontcrafts.com/members/JenniBoy892.html
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Israel Amirav on tue 22 dec 98



Lois,

Here in the north of Israel, we are blessed with plenty of olive trees,so
naturally olive oil is used a lot in the kitchen.
When I have to transfer olive oil from big containers to a small kitchen
bottle,my hands
get all soaked in olive oil.
So,instead of washing them after the job is done ,I rub the oil into my
hands and let it dry.
The result is soft baby skin and it lasts much longer than any hand
cream.......

Naama in Israel (looking at the olive trees in my garden )

Gordon on tue 22 dec 98

What is the purpose of the vinegar?







>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>An old potter's trick (yes, I learned it from an old potter!)--after you
>finish all your washing, etc., rub about 1 tablespoon of plain vinegar
>all over your hands. Then rinse your hands and pat dry. (Never rub
>your hands dry--it stresses the skin furthur.) If you dislike the
>vinegar smell, rub a drop or two of vanilla on your hands.
> If your hands are really bad, slather medicated vasoline on them
>and wear disposable vinyl gloves for a couple hours. The heat from your
>skin will cause the vasoline to absorb into and soften your hands.
>
>C. A. Sanger
>ShardRock Clay Studio
>319 North C
>Herington, KS 67449

Kathleen Gordon
Palo Alto,Ca
email:emgordon@batnet.com
voice:650-328-9164

"If things seem under control you are not going fast enough"
Mario Andretti

Janet Harper on wed 23 dec 98

In a message dated 98-12-22 14:28:38 EST, you write:

<< What is the purpose of the vinegar? >>
I don't know for sure what the vinegar does--I assume is acts as a neutralizer
of some sort. But, I tried it tonight...poured white vinegar on my hands and
patted them dry, then put lotion on. The vinegar made a small cut sting
momentarily but my hands feel great now ( 2 hrs later).
Now, I want to know if the urine trick really works. I know it was used
in medieval times to tan hides. Is that what it is doing to our hands? Has
anyone had the nerve to try it? Enquiring minds want to know!! Janet -in
TN where the temp just plunged 40 degrees today and winter has arrived in time
for Xmas!

the Gallaghers on thu 24 dec 98

> Now, I want to know if the urine trick really works. I know it was
used
>in medieval times to tan hides. Is that what it is doing to our hands?
Has
>anyone had the nerve to try it? Enquiring minds want to know!
Janet,
While on a trip to Hawaii, I had the misfortune of stepping on a sea urchin.
The needles of this poor creature ended up embedded in my toe, which stung
terribly and looked like I had hundreds of black splinters in the tip. As I
was hobbling out of the ocean, where I had met with this fate, I met some
local children who informed me that the way to deal with the problem (sting
from a puka) was literally to "Pee on it!" Apparently something in urine
counteracts and disolves the urchin needles and after a day of suffering
from the sting, I did try it. It worked, much to my surprise, and the black
faded as the needles disappeared.
Don't know what it would do to cracked hands though!

Michelle

doug honthaas on thu 24 dec 98

At 10:50 AM 12/23/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>In a message dated 98-12-22 14:28:38 EST, you write:
>
><< What is the purpose of the vinegar? >>
>I don't know for sure what the vinegar does--I assume is acts as a
neutralizer
Vinegar has been traditionally used to clean and soften skin. A weak
dilution of vinegar and water will be mildly acidic and compatible wih the
ph of the skin (unlike soap which is more alkaline). A most wonderful bath
soak is to fill tub and add 2-3 cups vinegar. No soap needed. Your skin
will come out soft as a baby's bottom, clean and completely deodorized
without the drying effects of soap. Diltuted vinegar also makes a wonderful
hair rinse. There is always a squeegie bottle of vinegar water in our
shower to use as a hair and body rinse. Try it. Veronica

John Rodgers on thu 24 dec 98

-- [ From: John Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

You Said:

>> Now, I want to know if the urine trick really works. I know it was used
in medieval times to tan hides.<<

Janet, I lived in Alaska a very long time. To this day the Native people of
Alaska, particularly the Eskimo people, use the urine tanning process,
although I must confess that it is in decline. It works!!

But, there is no smell on earth like a pair of mukluks made of urine tanned
hide hanging in the closet in the summer time.!!!!!

In summer, I always stored mine under the house where it was cool, in a
ventilated, bugproof box, in a dry place.

John Rodgers
30 years in Alaska



-------- REPLY, End of original message --------

Edouard Bastarache on fri 25 dec 98

Hello Janet,

in the old days, on the farm or elsewhere, the urine trick worked
because it contains urea, as in Uremol, a tradename for
a moisterizing urea containing lotion/cream available from drugtores.
This stuff contains 10 or 20% urea depending on the kind you buy.
You dont need a prescription to buy it.



Edouard Bastarache M.D. ( Occupational & Environmental Medicine)
in "La Belle Province"
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/

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> De : Janet Harper
> A : CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Objet : Re: Help for Hurtin' Hands
> Date : 23 dicembre, 1998 10:50
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> In a message dated 98-12-22 14:28:38 EST, you write:
>
> << What is the purpose of the vinegar? >>
> I don't know for sure what the vinegar does--I assume is acts as a
neutralizer
> of some sort. But, I tried it tonight...poured white vinegar on my hands
and
> patted them dry, then put lotion on. The vinegar made a small cut sting
> momentarily but my hands feel great now ( 2 hrs later).
> Now, I want to know if the urine trick really works. I know it was
used
> in medieval times to tan hides. Is that what it is doing to our hands?
Has
> anyone had the nerve to try it? Enquiring minds want to know!! Janet
-in
> TN where the temp just plunged 40 degrees today and winter has arrived in
time
> for Xmas!

amy parker on fri 25 dec 98

<< What is the purpose of the vinegar? >>

Vinegar is an acid, and according to skin guru Erno Laslo(SP?), we need to keep
our skin on the acid side. Most cosmetics & creams are alkaline, which he
claims irritates and further dries out the skin. His long-time el-cheapo
skin regime (in case you don't want to shell out the $$$ for the brand name)
is to scrub the skin thoroughly with soap and water as hot as you can stand,
rinse, splash on cold water to close the pores, a dab of vinegar (the smell
quickly evaporates) and then a cream. Supposedly the vinegar will counteract
the alkaline of the cream. The above method is supposed to seal moisture into
the skin. When I had religion about this a while back, my pores almost
disappeared, my skin was so lovely! Whatever I do for skin care to my face
gets done to my hands at the same time, and this seems to work for me, except
when I have been into grolleg porcelain! Then it is time to sleep with
the cheap cotton garden gloves and the Bag Balm.
amy parker Lithonia, GA
amyp@sd-software.com

Martin Howard on fri 25 dec 98

Michelle and others.

I mentioned the use of Urine for hands and all skin complaints, internal
and external, some little while ago at the beginning of this thread.
No-one responded. Did I shock you? Or do you think that only if you pay
a lot for something can it possibly work?

Use it. It works because Urea, the main activator in it, is a protein
and because in your own urine are all the homeopathic remedies which
each cell in your body needs right now.

I have fasted on just urine for a whole week and at the end of that week
felt on top of the world.

It is a very old remedy, cost nothing and, above everything else, it
works.

Martin Howard, Healer, Potter, Publisher and Planner
Webbs Cottage Pottery and Press
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE
Essex CM7 5DZ
01371 850 423
araneajo@gn.apc.org

Thonas C. Curran on fri 25 dec 98

John Rodgers wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -- [ From: John Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
> You Said:
>
> >> Now, I want to know if the urine trick really works. I know it was used
> in medieval times to tan hides.<<
>
>
> But, there is no smell on earth like a pair of mukluks made of urine tanned
> hide hanging in the closet in the summer time.!!!!!
>
>
> John Rodgers
> 30 years in Alaska
>
> -------- REPLY, End of original message --------
On the same vein, one time I tried a 19th c. recipe for mocha ware which
used urine as one of the ingredients. It worked, but as you indicated,
John, the odor was less than pleasant - even for a tiny test batch. Of
course, in the days before underarm deodorant and daily bathing, our
potter ancestors probably didn't notice as much as we would with our
super sensitive noses. Merry Christmas in any case. Carolyn aka cnc

Joseph Carames on fri 25 dec 98

Hi!

It's not just what goes on your hands - but Udder Balm is good as well as
Vitamin E ( break open the capsules and squeeze them out rub them in when
dry repeat./ Also taking Vit E internally helps I have also found that
skin nutrients help I cannot tell you what to take, But for me I have
found what are called Essential Fatty Acids(this is the generic name)
very helpful stuff you find in fish oils. ie eat salmon or any other
cold water fish, evening primrose oil. I find it very useful especially
this time of year.

Yes and drink Water lots and lots of water it is the ultimate moisturizer

Good luck
Joseph Carames

>
>> ----------------------------Original
>message----------------------------
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>> I am cursed with dry skin anyhow.....but my hands are falling apart!
>> No amount of lotion seems to help. I feel like I've tried
>everything.
>> (Except stopping clay, of course).
>>
>> anyone have any hints re: lotions or even barrier creams? I'm at my
>> wits end. I don;t really care how they look, only that they stop
>> feeling like mummy hands.
>

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