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river bed clay and indian pottery in my backyard!!!!.

updated wed 4 nov 98

 

Amy Gossett on fri 30 oct 98

Hi guys...

Just wanted to share with the people on Clayart about my new pastime this =
month
in my backyard. Our subdivision is built alongside the Flint River. I live=
in
Georgia and this is one of the big Rivers that flows thru the middle of Ga. =
Our
backyard is on the main drag which has been coverted by the power company =
into a
lake...there is a large dam which makes this river a lake.

To make a long story short, Ga. Power has let the lake down to allow the =
people
to make dock repairs or to build docks, and seawalls, etc. There have been
many historians digging around in the river beds for indian artifacts from =
the
CHEHAW Indian tribe. So I have been digging around myself and I have found =
over
50 pieces of Indian pottery shards. (about 4=22 x 3=22 insize) They are =
black and
have been in the water for over I guess 100-200 years. Also I have found
numerous arrow heads and spearheads too=21

I think that this is the coolest thing a potter could ever have in their
backyard and collection of pottery goods. But I am concerned about having =
these
articles in my possession. Has anyone ever come across this, as far as
returning the items to a museum?

Other than telling you this story, I had a idea pop into my head as I was
ordering some clay yesterday...Why cannot I make clay outta this river bed
clay.?..When I dig deep into the banks you can clearly see the clay and =
smell it
too=21

What would I have to do about making it and testing it? What would I have =
to
add to the clay to make it work for me? I am assuming that I would dig the =
clay
let it dry...seive out the larger particles and then remoisten to a workable
clay?

If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would surely appreciate it=21

Thanks,

The Aimster
Amy Gossett
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Pamela & Evan Kohler-Camp on mon 2 nov 98

Hello again "Aimster",

Check with the History Dept. at Ga. State. They often go out into the Blue
Ridge and dig. Also check with the museum at the New Echota (sp,the
Cherokee Nation Capital before the Trail of Tears) site. They have some
fantastic resouces that will help you document and safely deposit anything
valuble for antiquity.
When I was at the Ala. Clay Conf. last year there were many folks who dug
their own clay and used it. In fact, I bought 20 pounds from a local
potter. Haven't used it yet- it looks great. Some indicated that it didn't
need to be cleaned straight from the ground.

I have read in several books about the compostion of clay bodies. I know
you will hear TEST,TEST,TEST.

BTW-are there any signs of design on your shards after it dries or is it
too dark?

Pamela

The Aimster wrote:
There have been many historians digging around in the river beds for indian
artifacts from the
>CHEHAW Indian tribe. So I have been digging around myself and I have
found over
>50 pieces of Indian pottery shards. (about 4" x 3" insize) They are black and
>have been in the water for over I guess 100-200 years. Also I have found
>numerous arrow heads and spearheads too!
>
>
Has anyone ever come across this, as far as returning the items to a museum?
>Why cannot I make clay outta this river bed clay.?.
>
>
>What would I have to do about making it and testing it? What would I have to
>add to the clay to make it work for me? I am assuming that I would dig
the clay
>let it dry...seive out the larger particles and then remoisten to a workable
>clay?
>
>If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would surely appreciate it!
>
>Thanks,
>
>The Aimster
>Amy Gossett
>Located in "Peachy" Albany, Georgia alongside the Flint River.
>***NOTE TO CLAYART DISCUSSIONS**: When Responding to a post directly to
>me...please include CLAYART in the subject line!
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JFTRT on tue 3 nov 98

Amister-
While in New Mexico I studied some old
pots-whole & in sherd form. The Nat'l
Park Service esitmates that 80,000 objects
leave Chaco Canyon each year! Thats
sherds, points & other fashioned materials.
An excellent book on the subject of pottery-
esp. native, is "Ceramics for the Arch-
aeologist" by Anna O. Shepard, Publication 609
Carnegie Institution of Washington.
This is an incredible study of the clay, firing
and form analysis of indigenous pottery, and
is applicable to anyone who is interested in
clay. Shepard devoted her whole life to "fired
stuff" and this book is the bible on the subject.

Todd Turek
Juneau, AK

Amy Gossett on tue 3 nov 98

I believe what I have come across according to the historians, is a pottery
yard of broken ware. The pieces are tiny and black and no markings
whatsoever! The museum who collects the pieces do not want anymore! When
they were cutting down the trees for the lake the huge bulldozers crushed
everything and anything of value or importance! Everybody in town is out
scouring the river banks and so much has been turned up that the historians
are telling people to keep them for now! They have already found the "Big"
stuff!

I am planning on digging some clay today! They just poured our seawall and
it is a pain to get down to the river bed floor...a 7 ft drop off!

well I am off to mix some more glazes! Just unloaded the kiln and found some
beautfil pots with my new glaze line! They are really neato! I will publish
on my site later today!

Have a great one!
Amy Gossett
Located in "Peachy" Albany, Georgia alongside the Flint River.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela & Evan Kohler-Camp
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: River Bed Clay and Indian Pottery in MY backyard!!!!.


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hello again "Aimster",

Check with the History Dept. at Ga. State. They often go out into the Blue
Ridge and dig. Also check with the museum at the New Echota (sp,the
Cherokee Nation Capital before the Trail of Tears) site. They have some
fantastic resouces that will help you document and safely deposit anything
valuble for antiquity.
When I was at the Ala. Clay Conf. last year there were many folks who dug
their own clay and used it. In fact, I bought 20 pounds from a local
potter. Haven't used it yet- it looks great. Some indicated that it didn't
need to be cleaned straight from the ground.

I have read in several books about the compostion of clay bodies. I know
you will hear TEST,TEST,TEST.

BTW-are there any signs of design on your shards after it dries or is it
too dark?

Pamela

The Aimster wrote:
There have been many historians digging around in the river beds for indian
artifacts from the
>CHEHAW Indian tribe. So I have been digging around myself and I have
found over
>50 pieces of Indian pottery shards. (about 4" x 3" insize) They are black
and
>have been in the water for over I guess 100-200 years. Also I have found
>numerous arrow heads and spearheads too!
>
>
Has anyone ever come across this, as far as returning the items to a museum?
>Why cannot I make clay outta this river bed clay.?.
>
>
>What would I have to do about making it and testing it? What would I have
to
>add to the clay to make it work for me? I am assuming that I would dig
the clay
>let it dry...seive out the larger particles and then remoisten to a
workable
>clay?
>
>If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would surely appreciate it!
>
>Thanks,
>
>The Aimster
>Amy Gossett
>Located in "Peachy" Albany, Georgia alongside the Flint River.
>***NOTE TO CLAYART DISCUSSIONS**: When Responding to a post directly to
>me...please include CLAYART in the subject line!
>CoolPotter@worldnet.att.net
>http://home.att.net/~coolpotter/welcome.html
>AOL Instant Messenger: BADBEAMER
>*************************
>2A************************
>A*********************
>"Television does not make a perfectly sane man go out and kill 5 people.
> Not even "must see TV"."---Fox Mulder, The Xfiles
>*************************
>2A************************
>A**********************
>