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sand....texture.......pots...

updated tue 15 sep 98

 

Beth Yeatman Spindler on fri 11 sep 98

Greetings........
Using earthernware.......want to make flowerpots.....but with a
grip/texture....non-slippery when wet from watering flowers, plants....could I
use sand on the outside to give me this non-slip texture that I would like???
and when would be the best time to apply the sand....and would it affect the
firing time??? the more primitive-looking the pot..the better....want to
"plant" some of these pots in various spots in my yard,,,but bring them up
everso often for fresher air and water....:)
Any suggestions???
Would appreciate it..........
Thanks,
Beth in the beautiful Blue Ridge Mtns foothills, VA
As mentioned earlier...the weather is GRAND!!

John K. Dellow on sat 12 sep 98



Beth , how about trying running a comb or fork up & down the pot when leather
hard. Remember to lightly sponge ( with an almost dry sponge) the surface
afterwards, so you don't cut or scratch yourself when moving them.
John Dellow The flower pot man

Rex Cornelius on sat 12 sep 98


> Greetings........
> Using earthernware.......want to make flowerpots.....but with a
> grip/texture....non-slippery when wet from watering flowers,

Hi Beth...

Have experimented with lots of stuff for texturing the outside of pots,
mostly low fire. Using something that will burn away does good work for
non-skid pots: sawdust, coffee grounds, etc. I use them in hand building
but don't see why you couldn't beat some into the outsde of a thrown pot.
I would try it as soon as the piece is dry enough to hold shape well. (as
a matter of fact, will try it myself) If you brush off the dry greenware
before firing most of the organics come off before getting all the way
into the kiln.

I generally wash the bisque with black copper oxide or manganese dioxide &
wipe off to give depth/age.

BTW my favorite is a stash of ancient "floor sweep" -- the stuff you strew
around the shop floor before you hit it with a broom. It's a coarse-ish
chippy sawdust with some sand in the mix... think in its youth it probably
had some cedar oil in it for smelling good. I'm sure you could find it at
custodial supply places, but asking for a sample of it at auto shops ought
to work.

Cheers, let us know
-R
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Rex Cornelius .yaw ym ti ees ot yrT
rexc@southwind.net
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Cindy on sun 13 sep 98

Beth,

If I were to attempt this project, I'd start by filling a powdered sugar
sprinkler with silica sand, and apply the sand to the wet, newly-applied
handles. If you mean to cover the entire pot with sand, I would do this
immediately after throwing/forming. Alternately, just use a groggy body and
don't glaze it. I doubt you'll find it unmanageable when wet. Watering pots
meant to be kept outside don't have to hold water for long periods of time,
so I wouldn't bother with any glaze anywhere. They will seep, but who
cares? If you want them to look primitive, you may even want to pit fire
them, either following a low bisque or without the bisque. Of course, if
you don't bisque first, you do run a higher risk of losing your ware to the
fire by breakage. Good luck, have fun.

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels
Custer, SD
USA http://blackhills-info.com/a/cindys/menu.htm

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> From: Beth Yeatman Spindler
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Sand....texture.......pots...
> Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 9:55 AM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Greetings........
> Using earthernware.......want to make flowerpots.....but with a
> grip/texture....non-slippery when wet from watering flowers,
plants....could I
> use sand on the outside to give me this non-slip texture that I would
like???
> and when would be the best time to apply the sand....and would it affect
the
> firing time??? the more primitive-looking the pot..the better....want to
> "plant" some of these pots in various spots in my yard,,,but bring them
up
> everso often for fresher air and water....:)
> Any suggestions???
> Would appreciate it..........
> Thanks,
> Beth in the beautiful Blue Ridge Mtns foothills, VA
> As mentioned earlier...the weather is GRAND!!
>

Dennis Davis on sun 13 sep 98

Hi Beth,

Not totally clear on the object of this exercise.

Non-slip texture? Many things come to mind to help pick up things.

The simplest thought is that unglazed stoneware is not going to be slippery no
matter how wet it is.

Handles like on a casserole.

Strong flared out rim to get your hands unde; also found on some casseroles..

Use roulette to impress strong texture on outside.

Use modeling tool to texture (cut/gouge/?) the surface.

Irregular (random?) faceting of the surface, especially if it is a rounded pot.

If made from slabs, the slabs could be rolled on coarse wood shavings which woul
burn out in the firing leaving a rough surface.

Lots of ways to accomplish the same thing.

Dennis in Stafford, VA

amy parker on mon 14 sep 98

I spoke with a potter at the Atlanta ACC show who had very heavy sand textures
on his pot rims - sorry, I have forgotten his name! He said that he "washed"
the rims of his groggy pots with a damp sponge until the texture emerged. If
you have enough grog in your body, you could try this. I think soft-leather
hard is the right stage for this.

Potters at ACC are always so nice!! They are so willing to share any info
that they have with you!!! Thanks to all of you who have shared with me!!!
amy parker Lithonia, GA
amyp@sd-software.com

Stephen Mills on mon 14 sep 98

I once had a project where I had to produce a set of "pipes" which
looked like an African Mole Rat burrow. This was for TV programe. I got
the gravel/sandy interior by slipping the thrown tubes with very sandy
slip, about 40% 30-40 mesh sand. Worked a treat.

Steve
Bath
UK


In message , Cindy writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Beth,
>
>If I were to attempt this project, I'd start by filling a powdered sugar
>sprinkler with silica sand, and apply the sand to the wet, newly-applied
>handles. If you mean to cover the entire pot with sand, I would do this
>immediately after throwing/forming. Alternately, just use a groggy body and
>don't glaze it. I doubt you'll find it unmanageable when wet. Watering pots
>meant to be kept outside don't have to hold water for long periods of time,
>so I wouldn't bother with any glaze anywhere. They will seep, but who
>cares? If you want them to look primitive, you may even want to pit fire
>them, either following a low bisque or without the bisque. Of course, if
>you don't bisque first, you do run a higher risk of losing your ware to the
>fire by breakage. Good luck, have fun.
>
>Cindy Strnad
>Earthen Vessels
>Custer, SD
>USA http://blackhills-info.com/a/cindys/menu.htm
>
>----------
>> From: Beth Yeatman Spindler
>> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>> Subject: Sand....texture.......pots...
>> Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 9:55 AM
>>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Greetings........
>> Using earthernware.......want to make flowerpots.....but with a
>> grip/texture....non-slippery when wet from watering flowers,
>plants....could I
>> use sand on the outside to give me this non-slip texture that I would
>like???
>> and when would be the best time to apply the sand....and would it affect
>the
>> firing time??? the more primitive-looking the pot..the better....want to
>> "plant" some of these pots in various spots in my yard,,,but bring them
>up
>> everso often for fresher air and water....:)
>> Any suggestions???
>> Would appreciate it..........
>> Thanks,
>> Beth in the beautiful Blue Ridge Mtns foothills, VA
>> As mentioned earlier...the weather is GRAND!!
>>
>

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Steve Mills
Bath
UK
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