Veronica Honthaas on sun 10 jan 99
Sure would like to hear how the folks in clayartland sharpen their trimming
tools. I am never satisfied with how mine turn out.
Thanks, Veronica.
Ric Swenson on tue 12 jan 99
Veronica Honthaas wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Sure would like to hear how the folks in clayartland sharpen their trimming
> tools. I am never satisfied with how mine turn out.
> Thanks, Veronica.
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Use a file and/or a sharpening stone and go... s l o w l y ......
.........a half round fine tooth file or a round knife stone works for
me.
Patience and NO use of a grinding machine.
Even sandpaper wrapped around a pencil is better than a grinder. A few
short minutes of patience is well worth the result...IMHO
Regards,
Ric Swenson
artsovt@sover.net
Vince Pitelka on wed 13 jan 99
>Patience and NO use of a grinding machine.
>Even sandpaper wrapped around a pencil is better than a grinder. A few
>short minutes of patience is well worth the result...IMHO
>Regards,
>Ric Swenson
Ric -
Each to his/her own. I use a fine-grit stone on a bench grinder, holding
the trimming tool securely against the steady rest, and feeding it against
the stone very carefully. It does a beautiful job, and it does it QUICK.
But then, I just love machines.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
arturo m devitalis on wed 13 jan 99
My deer-hunting, lake fishing, and all-around camping guy lets me borrow
the stone he uses to keep not only his knives (he dresses his own deer!)
but his fish hooks! Best description I can give is: 2" X 6" X 1/2 thick,
flat rectangular, which he keeps wrapped up in a newspaper that is soaked
with some sort of oil. The Dolan tools let me sharpen them it I don't
get them so distorted (worn out) before sharpening. Takes a little
practice but they do sharpen.
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Kenneth D. Westfall on fri 15 jan 99
The use of a bench grinder is fine if your talking about sharping cheap
throw away tools like those by kemper and alike. A bench grinder is sure
death for a fine tempered Dolan tool. Unfortunately most people will try
to grind too much too fast and will over heat the steel and take out the
temper. After the temper is gone you got just another expensive kemper
throw away that will not hold its edge. Hand sharping will always give you
the best results and the longest life of a trimming tool.
Kenneth D. Westfall
Pine Hill Pottery
R.D. #2 Box 6AA
Harrisville, WV 26362
pinehill@ruralnet.org
http://www.ruralnet.org/pinehillpottery
Vince Pitelka on sat 16 jan 99
>The use of a bench grinder is fine if your talking about sharping cheap
>throw away tools like those by kemper and alike. A bench grinder is sure
>death for a fine tempered Dolan tool. Unfortunately most people will try
>to grind too much too fast and will over heat the steel and take out the
>temper. After the temper is gone you got just another expensive kemper
>throw away that will not hold its edge. Hand sharping will always give you
>the best results and the longest life of a trimming tool.
Well, this does not leave room for many other options. I have been seeking,
studying, handling, collecting, using, coveting, cleaning, and (when
necessary) sharpening fine hand-tools for about 35 years now. There ain't
no absolutes. If you overheat your fine Dolan tool on a bench grinder, then
you don't have much sense. Equip your bench grinder with a fine-grit wheel.
Have a bucket of water standing by. Check out the angle of the cutting
edge, and carefully hold the tool firmly on the steady rest at that same
angle, barely touching the cutting edge to the wheel. Frequently dip the
tool in water to keep it cool. Observe the ground edge, and grind no more
than is necessary to get a good cutting edge. If you overheat the tool you
will ruin it. If you grind off too much you will shorten its life. A good
bench grinder is a wonderful tool, but it is capable of hogging off a great
deal of material very quickly, and therefore must be used with the greatest
care and control.
Good luck -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Anthony Allison on mon 18 jan 99
Hi,
Two cents on "ruined tools"
Tools can be restored if the temper is removed. Some tool steel is oil
hardening, some is water hardening. If you dont know, you can try and
experiment. Heat the cutting end of the tool to bright red heat and plunge
in oil or cold water. If in oil, take precautions as hot oil vapors can
ignite. If you want the hardest cutting edge available, leave the tool in
the quench until cold. If you want a hard edge but still want to retain a
lot of tool toughness, remove the tool when it turns purplish to blue. Let
it then cool slowly. Your tool will need regrinding. Just make sure to avoid
letting the blade get real hot. Frequent quenchings in cold water eliminate
the problem. Finishing with a fine hone after grinding will give you the
sharpest edge possible.
Tony
At 09:35 PM 1/16/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>The use of a bench grinder is fine if your talking about sharping cheap
>>throw away tools like those by kemper and alike. A bench grinder is sure
>>death for a fine tempered Dolan tool. Unfortunately most people will try
>>to grind too much too fast and will over heat the steel and take out the
>>temper. After the temper is gone you got just another expensive kemper
>>throw away that will not hold its edge. Hand sharping will always give you
>>the best results and the longest life of a trimming tool.
>
>Well, this does not leave room for many other options. I have been seeking,
>studying, handling, collecting, using, coveting, cleaning, and (when
>necessary) sharpening fine hand-tools for about 35 years now. There ain't
>no absolutes. If you overheat your fine Dolan tool on a bench grinder, then
>you don't have much sense. Equip your bench grinder with a fine-grit wheel.
>Have a bucket of water standing by. Check out the angle of the cutting
>edge, and carefully hold the tool firmly on the steady rest at that same
>angle, barely touching the cutting edge to the wheel. Frequently dip the
>tool in water to keep it cool. Observe the ground edge, and grind no more
>than is necessary to get a good cutting edge. If you overheat the tool you
>will ruin it. If you grind off too much you will shorten its life. A good
>bench grinder is a wonderful tool, but it is capable of hogging off a great
>deal of material very quickly, and therefore must be used with the greatest
>care and control.
>Good luck -
>- Vince
>
>Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
>Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
>Appalachian Center for Crafts
>Tennessee Technological University
>1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
>
Kathleen Weiler on mon 8 feb 99
I've had one of these sharpening stones for 30+ years. Dad recommended it.
Mine is in it's own fitted wooden box. I use 3-in1 oil on mine.
wrapped up
I also sculpt in maple and other hard woods. I keep my chisels sharpened with th
Grandma K.
Santa Monica
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