Vince Pitelka on tue 3 nov 98
>Yes this seems to be a constant with teachers about limiting glaze testing!
>Unless your school offers a glaze testing and research class.
>Professors, teachers, and clay-assistants dont have the time to fix what
>someone who might have been mistaken in their calculations by grinding off
>runny glazes!
Amy -
Let's not make unrealistic generalizations here. I am appalled at the idea
that ANY college ceramics teacher would prevent students from testing
glazes. I have certainly never known such a teacher at the college level,
and I cannot see ANY justifiable excuse for such laziness. No teacher or
technician can use the threat of glaze runs as an excuse to limit glaze
testing, because it is very easy to require students to fire any risky glaze
tests on small bisque saucers, so that any runs will not affect the shelf or
kiln.
I am sympathetic with any teacher who is forced to serve a large number of
students in an inadequate facility, with too few kilns. In such cases there
is clear justification for very specific kiln-use and glaze-testing
policies. But even in such situations, denying intermediate and advanced
clay majors the opportunity to test glazes is a blatant miscarriage of
ceramic education.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
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Marcia Selsor on wed 4 nov 98
I'd be tickled pink if my students would be so industrious as to do
experimenting. I usually assign a triangular blend but even those are
met with groans, lately. Any student whose glaze runs all over whether
it be a test or just schlocky application is soon introduced to the grinder.
Marcia in Montana
Vince Pitelka wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Yes this seems to be a constant with teachers about limiting glaze testing!
> >Unless your school offers a glaze testing and research class.
> >Professors, teachers, and clay-assistants dont have the time to fix what
> >someone who might have been mistaken in their calculations by grinding off
> >runny glazes!
>
> Amy -
> Let's not make unrealistic generalizations here. I am appalled at the idea
> that ANY college ceramics teacher would prevent students from testing
> glazes. I have certainly never known such a teacher at the college level,
> and I cannot see ANY justifiable excuse for such laziness. No teacher or
> technician can use the threat of glaze runs as an excuse to limit glaze
> testing, because it is very easy to require students to fire any risky glaze
> tests on small bisque saucers, so that any runs will not affect the shelf or (
>clay majors the opportunity to test glazes is a blatant miscarriage of
> ceramic education.
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
> Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
> Appalachian Center for Crafts
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Amy Gossett on thu 5 nov 98
>I am sympathetic with any teacher who is forced to serve a large number of
students in an inadequate facility, with too few kilns. In such cases there
is clear justification for very specific kiln-use and glaze-testing
policies. But even in such situations, denying intermediate and advanced
clay majors the opportunity to test glazes is a blatant miscarriage of
ceramic education.
- Vince>
Yes Vince...I have heard of this from more than 5 potters that I have met in
my life and it is a situation that I faced myself. I believe that it stems
from lack of equipment and time from the professors. All of these
complaints of not being granted the chance to test glazes are from the
colleges or univerisities that are unable to afford the luxuries that the
larger colleges have. I recently just moved from my hometown where I went
to a private college which is in the top ten for music-arts, but yet we were
not budgeted for FINE arts.
The state supported school here in my new town is the largest univeristy in
the south west Ga, but yet they do not offer any classes on glaze
chem./cal..or even an advanced ceramics course for ART majors! This
university has over 15,000 students and they dont even offer such a course,
where I graduated from there were only 2,800 students total in the whole
college! So it does not matter how far I travel between schools, there is a
lack of these important classes and those who can teach them! Most colleges
require their teachers to teach other Art classes other than just ceramics
which was in my case. My ceramics instructor also taught drawing, painting,
and sculpture! So I think that this is the case in a lot of schools right
now!
When I was in school I visited some of these other "ceramics" departments of
other schools while on workshops and I was in such awe and even in tears as
I had to leave and come back to my college's ceramics lab. Believe me, some
of you have no idea how fortunate and lucky you are/were...
I thought you would understand where I am coming from seeing that I have
emailed you on several accounts, seeking advice and guidance on glaze
questions.
Amy Gossett
Located in "Peachy" Albany, Georgia alongside the Flint River.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Pitelka
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: traveling glazes and Mixing Clay from scratch!
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