Betty Morgavan on thu 17 sep 98
Hello...
I have two questions.
One: I have been looking for a pottery use for the outer shell and dye
from black walnut. I have a tree next to my house and it would be great to
find a used for the nasty, outer slime of these nuts.
Two: A rather old Ceramics Monthly had an article about the Sanufu (sp?)
tribe that used the bark of a tree (not named) that had both tannins and
oils in it. The tree bark was pounded down and then put into water. Large
pots were fired and, when cooled a bit, taken from the firing with a stick
and put into the water. The pounded bark had enough oil in it to float the
tannins on the water and the ending result was a wonderful brown/black
mottling on the pots. Any suggestions as to a bark (I'm thinking maybe
pine) here in the U.S. that might give a similar look?
This article made me think of using the walnuts because they have a strong
dye in them. Unfortunately, they do not have enough oils to keep the
pounded ooze floating on the water. So a friend of mine tried rolling the
somewhat hot pots in the mixture of ooze, but neglected to put gloves on
while doing so. The pots didn't turn out so good looking, and her hands
look like she stuck them in something that's not talked about in polite
company. Those of us that know of black walnut's dying properties know not
to do this, sometimes we just forget.
Any conversation or suggestions would be much appreciated. And as to my
friends stained hands.... I think she will remember the gloves next time.
Thanks
Betty Morgavan
Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on fri 18 sep 98
Betty:
Here in Washington, DC at the Museum of African Art, they show a short video of
a woman potter doing exactly what you describe. The pot is put directly from
the pit fire while still hot into the oily liquid and rolled around. It would
seem that the pot would explode, but for some reason it doesn't, perhaps because
the liquid is also hot. The process is done in the hot African sun.
Sandy D.
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From: Betty Morgavan [SMTP:Betty.M.Morgavan@cmich.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 9:15 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: use for black walnut and...
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hello...
I have two questions.
One: I have been looking for a pottery use for the outer shell and dye
from black walnut. I have a tree next to my house and it would be great to
find a used for the nasty, outer slime of these nuts.
Two: A rather old Ceramics Monthly had an article about the Sanufu (sp?)
tribe that used the bark of a tree (not named) that had both tannins and
oils in it. The tree bark was pounded down and then put into water. Large
pots were fired and, when cooled a bit, taken from the firing with a stick
and put into the water. The pounded bark had enough oil in it to float the
tannins on the water and the ending result was a wonderful brown/black
mottling on the pots. Any suggestions as to a bark (I'm thinking maybe
pine) here in the U.S. that might give a similar look?
This article made me think of using the walnuts because they have a strong
dye in them. Unfortunately, they do not have enough oils to keep the
pounded ooze floating on the water. So a friend of mine tried rolling the
somewhat hot pots in the mixture of ooze, but neglected to put gloves on
while doing so. The pots didn't turn out so good looking, and her hands
look like she stuck them in something that's not talked about in polite
company. Those of us that know of black walnut's dying properties know not
to do this, sometimes we just forget.
Any conversation or suggestions would be much appreciated. And as to my
friends stained hands.... I think she will remember the gloves next time.
Thanks
Betty Morgavan
Louis Katz on fri 18 sep 98
Betty,
I feel as though I am dredging the far reaches of my mind, It is something I
should be able to remember. Some American nut shell gives off poisonous smoke
when burned, I am pretty sure it is walnut, but I don't know for sure and
can't remember where the information came from. So, if someone is thinking of
burning nut shells, it might be worth looking into.
I have seen pictures of the mottled surface and think that it was in a
ceramics monthly article on African pots. But it may also have been a poster
displayed at the Woodfire conference held in Iowa city a few years back.
People used to use walnut juice for ornimental purposes. From Gilbert and
Sullivans Mikado " and pinches her figure is painted with vigour in permanenet
Walnut Juice."
Louis
Gary Huddleston on sun 20 sep 98
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Try boiling acorn nuts in with the black walnuts, acorns have an extreemly =
high
tanin content, which is one of the reasons we humans don't eat the nut, but =
it
can be used in other areas.
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=3E ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
=3E Hello...
=3E
=3E I have two questions.
=3E
=3E One: I have been looking for a pottery use for the outer shell and dye
=3E from black walnut. I have a tree next to my house and it would be great=
to
=3E find a used for the nasty, outer slime of these nuts.
=3E
=3E Two: A rather old Ceramics Monthly had an article about the Sanufu =
(sp?)
=3E tribe that used the bark of a tree (not named) that had both tannins and
=3E oils in it. The tree bark was pounded down and then put into water. =
Large
=3E pots were fired and, when cooled a bit, taken from the firing with a =
stick
=3E and put into the water. The pounded bark had enough oil in it to float =
the
=3E tannins on the water and the ending result was a wonderful brown/black
=3E mottling on the pots. Any suggestions as to a bark (I'm thinking maybe
=3E pine) here in the U.S. that might give a similar look?
=3E
=3E This article made me think of using the walnuts because they have a =
strong
=3E dye in them. Unfortunately, they do not have enough oils to keep the
=3E pounded ooze floating on the water. So a friend of mine tried rolling =
the
=3E somewhat hot pots in the mixture of ooze, but neglected to put gloves on
=3E while doing so. The pots didn't turn out so good looking, and her hands
=3E look like she stuck them in something that's not talked about in polite
=3E company. Those of us that know of black walnut's dying properties know =
not
=3E to do this, sometimes we just forget.
=3E
=3E Any conversation or suggestions would be much appreciated. And as to my
=3E friends stained hands.... I think she will remember the gloves next =
time.
=3E
=3E Thanks
=3E Betty Morgavan
=3E
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