kurt l wild on wed 19 aug 98
There are those out there who will scream all sorts of phrases: however,
I don't care! I do not like to throw but I do like to decorate and am
looking for someone (good) who is willing to throw pieces for me. Must
be within 150 miles of Mpls/St. Paul. Any interest?
--
Kurt Wild
1000 E. Cascade
River falls, WI 54022 Phone: (715) 425-5715
web site: http://www.uwrf.edu/art/faculty/Wild
elizabet on thu 20 aug 98
Why should anyone scream? I've read where ones who love to throw but not
decorate, team up with someone who loves to decorate and together, they are
DYN-O-MITE!!! Hope you find someone who would just love to have you decorate
their thrown ware.
Elizabeth
kurt l wild wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> There are those out there who will scream all sorts of phrases: however,
> I don't care! I do not like to throw but I do like to decorate and am
> looking for someone (good) who is willing to throw pieces for me.
kurt l wild on fri 21 aug 98
Thanks Elizabeth for the support. I was just anticipating negative comments
from some of the "holier than thou" Clayarters.
elizabet wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Why should anyone scream? I've read where ones who love to throw but not
> decorate, team up with someone who loves to decorate and together, they are
> DYN-O-MITE!!! Hope you find someone who would just love to have you decorate
> their thrown ware.
>
> Elizabeth
>
> kurt l wild wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > There are those out there who will scream all sorts of phrases: however,
> > I don't care! I do not like to throw but I do like to decorate and am
> > looking for someone (good) who is willing to throw pieces for me.
--
Kurt Wild
1000 E. Cascade
River falls, WI 54022 Phone: (715) 425-5715
web site: http://www.uwrf.edu/art/faculty/Wild
marc mancuso on sat 22 aug 98
Hi Kurt,
Why would anyone take a "holier than thou" attitude about thou decorating
someone else's pots?
I wonder what their reasoning might be....
There are certainly examples of two- and three-person teams whose work and
work processes are quite well admired. Maybe you could consider your idea a
form of anonymous collaboration!
There's so many parts to making a finished piece of pottery or sculpture.
Choose which ones you want to become more familiar with. Some people want
to have a hand in the process from the moment their shovel brings up a lump
of clay from the ground to the moment a pot leaves their supervision after
the sale. This is neither good nor bad, but simply one way an individual
can choose to involve themself in the process. Not all of us have the
inclination or the resources to do it that way.
I admit there is a certain kind of continuity about the finished work when
one person is responsible for the whole process. That "unified source"
manifests as little clues all over the pot, just like the way our
handwriting has a continuity to it. After all, movie directors can end up
with a film that is undeniably theirs, even though there are many people
involved in the process.
It's also a valid choice to give up control in one area in favor of
focusing on another, as in the process of writing a letter. You might make
the choice to allow someone else to make the paper and pen, so that you can
take up the process of letter writing from there.
It seems like a great challenge when two people are working on a pot. You
might choose to focus on developing decorating skills that enhance the
existing qualities of the pot. Or, conversely, you might try to *exploit*
the fact that the decoration is being done by someone else. Some pots might
even come out of the kiln with a sort of schizophrenic quality. That's not
necessarily a bad thing.
Go for it!
Marc
Marc Mancuso
Senior Staff Assistant
Publishing Services Bureau
email: mmancuso@mit.edu
phone: 617.258.9380
fax: 617.258.9390
FRANK GAYDOS on sat 22 aug 98
kurt wild wrote:
I do not like to throw but I do like to decorate and am
> looking for someone (good) who is willing to throw pieces for me.
> Dont scream at me.
Kurt,
Life is funny that way, I love to throw and get into ruts when it comes
to decoration. What I like to do is make large bisque platters and
invite my fine artist friends to decorate. I take care of the technical
aspects and they do the decoration. Its nice to see how THEY solve the
problem of decoration. We divide the platters evenly and a refreshing
break is had by all. Its called collaboration and is nothing to be
screamed at for.
What do I get out of it besides beautiful platters by nationally known
artists? Well, each time I try to do a new technique so its a learning
experience for me also. Plus, I learned not to say anymore,"You cant do
it that way!" :>)
And then there are the Husband/ Wife teams working together. Gertrud and
Otto Natzler, Susan and Steven Kemeneffy and most recently, The
Rankins(SP?) come to mind.
Enjoy!
--
Frank Gaydos
510 Gerritt St.
Philadelphia,Pa.19147-5821 USA
fgaydos@erols.com
Mike Gordon on sun 23 aug 98
Hi,
Keep in mind a lot of very famous glass blowers work in teams, sculptors
have art foundries cast and finish their work. I have thrown plates
which were decorated by a women friend of mine who couldn't throw large
enough to give her the surface she needed to express herself and have
fun. It worked out well, Mike
Andrew Buck on mon 24 aug 98
On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, marc mancuso wrote:
> Why would anyone take a "holier than thou" attitude about thou decorating
> someone else's pots?
> I wonder what their reasoning might be....
>
> There are certainly examples of two- and three-person teams whose work and
> work processes are quite well admired. Maybe you could consider your idea a
> form of anonymous collaboration!
I don't know why the collaboration has to be anonymous. It is quite easy
to write or stamp the bottom of each piece with a "thrown by - decorated
by" statement. Heck, if someone else does the firing, put that on there
too.
Andy Buck
Raincreek Pottery
Port Orchard, Washington, USA
Karen Gringhuis on wed 26 aug 98
Andy Buck's point about "collaboration with two signatures"
was well taken. I have some pots like this & love them - the
decorator simply didn't throw but the resulting work was extremely
strong. When the thrower changed, however, the work weakened
significantly and to me, lost that special something.
Karen Gringhuis
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