Dai Scott on mon 23 nov 98
I also have a fairly old Shimpo (at least 25 years old), which is pretty
noisy, but I am living with it. It has the two-piece splash pan (actually,
one piece is the pan, the other, the "deck") that they don't make any
more---I can't understand why!? A friend has a newer Shimpo with a dicky
little splash pan effort and a deck area not even big enough to put a pail
of water! I LOVE the older splash pan---never leaks, no matter how much
slop is in it, easy to take apart and clean (on the rare occasion that I do
this), nice and sturdy, room on the deck for water and tools. I'm not
looking forward to the day when this old friend packs it in for good and I
have to buy another, more "modern", but less accomodating wheel.
As for mending the splash pan, I would think that, as it is fiberglas, you
could use one of the patching kits for fiberglas auto repair (you know, with
the glass cloth and foul-smelling resin). Good luck! Now, if anyone knows
how to make the cone-drive wheel any quieter.......
Dai Scott, Kelowna, B.C. (one more show to go!)
"I love deadlines....I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they
go flying by." Anon.
Suzanne Wolfe on mon 27 sep 99
We have some older shimpo wheels, with the slide on type splash pan. The
pans are in pretty bad shape, and some have been totally demolished over
the years. Apparently Shimpo does not make these any longer, but our
wheels are still good and the students use them. Does anyone have any
information about/ ideas about what to use as a replacement? (These slide
on splash pans are rectangular shaped, with the end toward the user being
large, and the smaller end away from the user fits over the top of the
larger portion.)
Possible solutions --
1. find some clandestine supplier who still has some
2. fabricate your own (I think not too possible)
3. do some sort of conversion of the wheel head housing that allows the
newer type splash pans to be used
4. etc.
Thanks for the help.
Suzanne Wolfe
Lori Pierce on tue 28 sep 99
Suzanne, Hi...before Shimpo wheels had splash pans we used to wedge a sponge
against the side of the wheel head, holding it in place with a couple of
pieces of hard brick, or impaled on needle tools imbedded in clay; I use it
today for I find the pan cumbersome for a five foot tall potter, and can't
get close enough to the wheel head with the new round ones in place. The
sponge soaks up the water as the wheel spins. Lori in New Port Richey, Fl.
-----Original Message-----
From: Suzanne Wolfe
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:14 PM
Subject: Shimpo splash pans
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We have some older shimpo wheels, with the slide on type splash pan. The
pans are in pretty bad shape, and some have been totally demolished over
the years. Apparently Shimpo does not make these any longer, but our
wheels are still good and the students use them. Does anyone have any
information about/ ideas about what to use as a replacement? (These slide
on splash pans are rectangular shaped, with the end toward the user being
large, and the smaller end away from the user fits over the top of the
larger portion.)
Possible solutions --
1. find some clandestine supplier who still has some
2. fabricate your own (I think not too possible)
3. do some sort of conversion of the wheel head housing that allows the
newer type splash pans to be used
4. etc.
Thanks for the help.
Suzanne Wolfe
Maxine Cohn. on tue 28 sep 99
Hi Suzanne,
It is true that we do not make any of the old style splash pans, but we do
make a one piece small pan that will fit all RK-2's (Ringcone-popets and gray
and orange wheels with no markings), all RK-10's and all of our masters
wheels. You will need to remove the wheel head and two of the four bearing
holder bolts below the wheel head to secure it on. If you still have
questions, call me direct at 630-671-2137 or 800-237-7079 and ask for Laura
in the Ceramics Division.
Regards,
Laura Barov
Shimpo Ceramics
Frank Tucker on tue 28 sep 99
At 01:13 PM 9/27/99 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>We have some older shimpo wheels, with the slide on type splash pan. The
>pans are in pretty bad shape, and some have been totally demolished over
>the years. Apparently Shimpo does not make these any longer, ...
It's true that Shimpo no longer makes those older splash pans, but the
newer one-piece pans will fit your wheels.
It does mean that the wheelhead has to come off to properly clean up, but
at least you'll have a pan.
Michael Leonard
Tuckers Pottery Supplies
1800-304-6185
Susan Fox on tue 28 sep 99
I, too, have trouble with my old Shimpo splash pan. They always were
flimsy - mine broke the first time I put it on (in 1971!) and have
become more and more brittle. I've patched mine with, of course, duct
tape, but there is a limit. The wheel is still great, if noisy. So
please let me know if you find a solution. Thanks - Susan
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Pottery by Dai on wed 29 sep 99
I, too have an old Shimpo, and dread the thought of the splash pan packing
it in; as it's made of fibreglass (I think), would it be possible to patch
it with the fibreglass auto-body repair kits---you know, the toxic-smelling
stuff and the glass cloth? Might not look the greatest, but would keep the
mud in the pan. I love the way it's so easy to get off and on for cleaning
(on those rare occasions when I do), and would hate to have to replace it
with something less convenient!
Dai in Kelowna, B.C.
potterybydai@home.com
deborah goletz on thu 30 sep 99
Suzanne - I faced your problem of old cracked splash pans and needed to
replace several on a limited budget. Here's want I did: Purchase some
large round plastic wash tubs ... make sure the diameter at the bottom of
the tub is at least as big as your wheel head (not much larger though). I
found them for $6.00 each in Chinatown in New York City but I would guess
they can be found at hardward stores or places that carry inexpensive
kitchen items. I cut off a few inches of the rim because the sides were
taller than needed. Tin snips worked well for this task (though it was a
bit tough on my hands). Then I cut out a wedge (like a slice of pie) that
was approximately 1/3 the size of the whole (the trick is to make sure the
width of the opening in the larger piece is big enough to slide around your
wheel head). Now all you need to do is cut a "hole" in the center of the
tub (both pieces) to fit your wheel (use the old splash pan as a guide).
Though the pieces did not "snap" together, students found these spash pans
effective and easy to clean (the brightly colored tubs made a cheery
classroom too).
If you choose to buy the new Shimpo spash pans (one-piece) you can remove
the wheelhead with an allen wrench (the nut is right under the wheel head).
You'll want to get quite a LONG allen wrench because to replace the wheel
head after the new pan is in place, you have to negotiate the wrench
through the splash pan's drain hole. It's actually a pretty easy job.
Good luck,
DeBorah Goletz
Suzanne Wolfe on thu 30 sep 99
Vince --
You have my absolute support here -- and I hope Shimpo is listening
because one-piece splash pans are indeed an abomination.
Suzanne Wolfe
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Vince Pitelka wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >It is true that we do not make any of the old style splash pans, but we do
> >make a one piece small pan that will fit all RK-2's (Ringcone-popets and gray
> >and orange wheels with no markings), all RK-10's and all of our masters
> >wheels. You will need to remove the wheel head and two of the four bearing
> >holder bolts below the wheel head to secure it on. If you still have
> >questions, call me direct at 630-671-2137 or 800-237-7079 and ask for Laura
> >in the Ceramics Division.
>
> I can't resist the opportunity to be very vocal about this while Shimpo
> might be listening. The Shimpo one-piece splash pans suck! Shimpo makes
> such good wheels (except for that RK-2 piece-of-crap with the tilting motor
> mount), and it is absolutely appalling that they use a one-piece splash pan
> which cannot be removed without removing the wheelhead. We have a bunch of
> RK-2s here at the Appalachian Center for Crafts, and we have done away with
> all the original one-piece splash pans. Instead of using another one-piece
> pan, I purchased the later model two-piece splash pans and ground out the
> inside diameter to make them fit the RK-2s. It is a pain in the neck, and
> even when ground to fit they do not work all that great. You cannot place
> any appreciable weight on the "table" extension at the back of the splash
> pan, because it will come apart and spill its contents all over the place.
> And the greatest insult is that these two-piece splash pans cost 60 bucks
> apiece, when you can get a beautiful, heavy-duty, unbreakable, snug-fitting
> two-piece splash pan for a Brent wheel for 35 bucks.
>
> With all the old Shimpos out there still in great working condition, I
> cannot imagine any good reason why Shimpo does not design and manufacture a
> decent two-piece splash pan for every wheel they have ever made. A company
> which makes such high-quality machines owes it to their customers to offer
> decent parts and service for those machines. It should be evident to them
> by now, after at least 40 years of service to American potters, that we
> would prefer a two-piece splash pan.
>
> OK, I have had my rant. If you read this far, thanks for listening.
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Home - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
> 615/597-5376
> Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> 615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
> Appalachian Center for Crafts
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
>
Janet Harper on thu 30 sep 99
My Shimpo splash pan broke several years ago after being patched with lots of
duck tape. I replaced it with a homemade wooden pan that works great. I had
read John Glick's article in Studio Potter about standing up to throw and
then an article came out in Ceramics Monthly by a woman (can't remember her
name or the issue) last year about her wooden splash pan. Basically, I cut a
U-shaped piece out of a scrap piece of formica (about 24"x30') which would
slide around the wheel shaft. I screwed on 4" high walls of plywood around
three sides and made the fourth side hinged so that I could easily scrape out
the pan to clean it . The only problem with this was to fill in the u-shaped
piece and to make the pan rest sturdily on the base motor housing. I
accomplished this with strips of wood between the base and the formica pan .
The u-shaped piece that I had cut out originally was simply screwed into the
strips of wood under the formica and ta-da...a sturdy splash pan.
Sounds like a lot of work but it works like a charm. I now stand up to throw
, resting my hips against the front of the splash pan and my elbows can
steady themselves on the sides. My back no longer hurts at all when I throw!
I agree that Shimpo needs to redesign their current splash pan but I
personally like the wooden one. I have a form of rheumatoid arthritis called
Ankylosing Spondylitis (sp) in my spine caused in part from my years as a
full-time potter when I was in my twenties ( more years ago than I want to
think about!). The standing position makes my back feel much better and I
can throw longer. I recommend it! Read John Glick's article on Studio
Potter's website.
Janet
Mike Gordon on thu 30 sep 99
Hi,
I have been trashing all the past msgs about the Shimpo splash pans and
wasn't going to respond, but Vince's reply got me going on a lot of
levels. We've been through the adjustment phase of the old ones, the new
ones are not worth the money and I'll never purchase another one. Brents
are the only good buy. When I unpacked the Shimpo's that I DID buy, I
stored the splash pans and wouldn't let my students even see them. The
are a crutch! Use less water! There I feel better now, :-) Mike
john a gibson on sat 2 oct 99
Suzanne, I guess the Shimpo splashpan discussion is sort of like the
"beauty in the eye of the holder discussion". I have a Shimpo wheel with
a 1 piece spashpan and think the splashpan is great, wouldn't change it.
Regards, J.
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Pamala Browne on wed 6 oct 99
HELLO everyone ! I am trying desperately to catch up ( i've got my e-mail
down to 400 messages EEEEEKKK ! ) , so if this has already been
mentioned---forgive --- On the shimpo splash pans -- I have seen them
repaired with caulking-- works GREAT !!!! Hope everyone one is well
and fine. pamalab
----- Original Message -----
From: Suzanne Wolfe
To:
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:13 AM
Subject: Shimpo splash pans
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> We have some older shimpo wheels, with the slide on type splash pan. The
> pans are in pretty bad shape, and some have been totally demolished over
> the years. Apparently Shimpo does not make these any longer, but our
> wheels are still good and the students use them. Does anyone have any
> information about/ ideas about what to use as a replacement? (These slide
> on splash pans are rectangular shaped, with the end toward the user being
> large, and the smaller end away from the user fits over the top of the
> larger portion.)
> Possible solutions --
> 1. find some clandestine supplier who still has some
> 2. fabricate your own (I think not too possible)
> 3. do some sort of conversion of the wheel head housing that allows the
> newer type splash pans to be used
> 4. etc.
>
> Thanks for the help.
> Suzanne Wolfe
>
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