Don Jones on fri 12 feb 99
Hi,
I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a different
material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the slab
too much?
Don Jones
claysky@highfiber.com
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Dee Clay on sat 13 feb 99
Hi Don,
I always lightly run a rib over the slab not only to get rid of any pattern
but to make sure all the air bubbles are gone.
By compressing the clay again with the rib, the air that's trapped will
surface. You can also try using a plain cotton sheet but I think you will
still get some kind of imprint.
Good luck and have fun. We just got a North Star Roller where I teach and the
students love it. No more rolling pins and slats. Perfect every time.
Diane in Miami
Elizabeth Chambers on sat 13 feb 99
Don, I use a squeege to get the canvas texture off of my slabs and transfer
them to several layers of news paper (supported with a masonite board).
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Jones [mailto:claysky@highfiber.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 6:43 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: texture in rolling slabs
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi,
I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a different
material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the slab
too much?
Don Jones
claysky@highfiber.com
:-) implied in all messages and replies
http://highfiber.com/~claysky
Cathy Harris on sat 13 feb 99
Don,
Try using a heavy sheet of plastic (film from laminators), perhaps even a
dry-cleaning bag (if you can get it wrinkle free between the canvas and the
clay. Clean, smooth and no canvas material texture.
Good luck,
Cathy
Aurora, Ontario
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> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi,
> I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
> nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a different
> material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the slab
> too much?
>
>
>
> Don Jones
> claysky@highfiber.com
> :-) implied in all messages and replies
> http://highfiber.com/~claysky
>
Candise Flippin on sat 13 feb 99
Hello all!
I bought remnants of a fabic backed vinyl. It has a very tight weave and
leaves a small amount of texture. Then I spray the slab lightly with water
and use a rib to smooth out the surface. Hope that helps.
Thanks, Candise in Sunny San Diego
Don Jones wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi,
> I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
> nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a different
> material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the slab
> too much?
>
> Don Jones
> claysky@highfiber.com
> :-) implied in all messages and replies
> http://highfiber.com/~claysky
joe & lisa cecere on sat 13 feb 99
To get the canvas texture out go to your local cloth shop an d get a smooth
100% cotton, not to thin,fabric. Cut to the width and length you need x 2.
One for the bottom, spread on canvas and one for over the clay. Only one
problem occurs when rolling, the additional fabric can bunch up...the
solution...pull the fabric, counter the roller, as your rolling it
through. One hand turns the wheel the other holds the 2ndary fabric to
insure a smooth slab. Even my begining students get it by the 2nd roll,
unfortunatly they always put the clay in at the wrong direction!...thats a
harder concept to grasp. LKC -----Original Message-----
From: Don Jones
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 5:27 AM
Subject: texture in rolling slabs
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi,
I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a different
material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the slab
too much?
Don Jones
claysky@highfiber.com
:-) implied in all messages and replies
http://highfiber.com/~claysky
doug shea on sat 13 feb 99
Don Jones wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi,
> I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
> nice slab without the canvas texture. <
Don,
Here are a couple of things that you can use. Lining fabric for
suits has almost no noticeable texture and works quite well. Also
innerfacing (interfacing?) is the stuff that goes between layers of
fabric and can be ironed to both layers. This stuff works well, and
both fabrics can be found at any fabric store. (innerfacing is
cheaper). You also can use the squeegee used for silkscreening to
smooth out the surface after you rol it out on regular canvas. A couple
of swipes and the surface is smooth and without texture.
Hope this helps.
Jim Shea
PS Are you or anyone out there going to be at Baltimore ACC at the end
of the month? I'm going with several people from our community studio
and I'ld like to check out the work of the people I hear from here.
(Websites only go so far.)
Laurel Carey on sat 13 feb 99
Don Jones wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi,
> I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
> nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a different
> material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the slab
> too much?
>
> Don Jones
> claysky@highfiber.com
> :-) implied in all messages and replies
> http://highfiber.com/~claysky
Hi, Don. I guess you could put a very fine grained fabric inside the
canvas, I think you would still need to use the canvas on the outside
for strength. I have tried putting newspaper inside, but as the clay
stretched, it ripped the paper.
But what I usually do is just to run a soft rubber rib over it. Usually
when you see these sold they have black (hard) and blue (soft). The
blue is what you want . It doesn't move the clay, just smooths it. If
you need to do both sides, put newspaper on top, then flip the slab over
still stuck to the canvas, there will be less distortion that way. Then
peel the canvas off and run the rib over that.
I'll be waiting to hear what you make with slabs. I still get pleasure
daily from your "atmosphere". Remember, if you are ever in the mood to
make a black hole torus in the smaller size, please think of me first.
(check out Don's website and see)
Laurel Carey
lacarey@ioa.com
asheville, nc, usa
the Gallaghers on sat 13 feb 99
Don,
At a workshop given by Victoria Christian, we were told about using Pellon,
a fabric interfacing material. This has no noticable surface texture when
rolled through the slab roller.
You can find it at any fabric store and it comes in a choice of thickness.
The width is usually 18 to 24 inches. Be careful and make sure you don't
buy the iron-on kind. The thickest pellon should last a while if you are
careful not to tear it.
Michelle In Oregon
Karen R. Betts on sun 14 feb 99
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Don Jones wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi,
> I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to get a
> nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a different
> material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the slab
> too much?
>
>
>
> Don Jones
> claysky@highfiber.com
> :-) implied in all messages and replies
> http://highfiber.com/~claysky
>
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Hi, Don,
I don't think it's possible to roll slabs without canvas. However, I use
slabs a great deal. What I do is let the slab set up for awhile. (Here in
Florida, where it is quite humid, it is usually at least a day or two.) I
alsays have them sandwiched between newspaper sections, and soft canvas, or
some other absorbent cloth. I leave them on a ware board for at least a day,
and touch them with my finger 'til they don't dent.
After all of this waiting, then I use two rubber ribs, the hard black one,
and then the soft blue one, to smoothe, and also compress, the slab. After
this, I must wait another day, with the slab in a large garbage bag, so that
the moisture level can become equal throughout the slab...this helps to
eliminate cracks. Of course, it also depends on how large the piece is. I
sometimes build quite large.
I hope this helps. The smoothing with the rubber rib serves a variety of
purposes, one of which happens to be removing the canvas texture. Oh! I
forgot...I wipe the slab down with a damp sponge prior to ribbing the slab.
sincerely,
Karen R. betts
Ceramics Senior
University of Florida
doug shea on sun 14 feb 99
Don,
Michelle in Oregon was right. Don't use the iron-on
interfacing. When I saw what she wrote, I actually checked what I use,
instead of what I thought I used. One of the foilbles of ahving the
computer and the studio in different locations.
Sorry,
Jim Shea
David Jenkins on mon 15 feb 99
In the 96 Bailey catalog (1-800 431-6067) on page 65 they sell a spatula
for this very purpose. I have the 18 inch one and it only takes one or
two passes with the spatula to get a beautiful smooth slab. Wipe off
the excess clay that accumulates on the spatula with a wet sponge after
each pass. I can't imagine rolling slabs without it. Good Luck. David
>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:09:28 EST
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>From: "Karen R. Betts"
>Subject: Re: texture in rolling slabs
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>
>----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
>On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Don Jones wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
>> Hi,
>> I bought a new slab roller and I'm now trying to figure out how to
get a
>> nice slab without the canvas texture. Anyone out there using a
different
>> material?. How to you get the texture out without messing with the
slab
>> too much?
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Jones
>> claysky@highfiber.com
>> :-) implied in all messages and replies
>> http://highfiber.com/~claysky
>>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Hi, Don,
>
>I don't think it's possible to roll slabs without canvas. However, I
use
>slabs a great deal. What I do is let the slab set up for awhile. (Here
in
>Florida, where it is quite humid, it is usually at least a day or two.)
I
>alsays have them sandwiched between newspaper sections, and soft
canvas, or
>some other absorbent cloth. I leave them on a ware board for at least a
day,
>and touch them with my finger 'til they don't dent.
>
>After all of this waiting, then I use two rubber ribs, the hard black
one,
>and then the soft blue one, to smoothe, and also compress, the slab.
After
>this, I must wait another day, with the slab in a large garbage bag, so
that
>the moisture level can become equal throughout the slab...this helps to
>eliminate cracks. Of course, it also depends on how large the piece is.
I
>sometimes build quite large.
>
>I hope this helps. The smoothing with the rubber rib serves a variety
of
>purposes, one of which happens to be removing the canvas texture. Oh! I
>forgot...I wipe the slab down with a damp sponge prior to ribbing the
slab.
>
>sincerely,
>Karen R. betts
>Ceramics Senior
>University of Florida
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Jeanne Murdock on mon 15 feb 99
At 01:09 PM 2/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Don Jones wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hell-o Don,
Picked this tip up somewhere....
I went to my local fabric store and bought drapery liner, it's sort of
rubbery, very inexpensive, and works well for me. I place the fabric over
the clay, lay the canvas topper down on the clay and roll it out. There is
very little imprint to deal with..
Good luck,
jeanne- concord, nc>>
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