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copper sulfate

updated fri 26 feb 99

 

Paula Dalton on thu 18 feb 99

Fellow clayarters,

Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?

TIA P Dalton

Barbara Lewis on fri 19 feb 99

P. I get mine from a Southern States store. Any store that sells primarily
to farmers -- possibly a feed store. Barbara

At 07:42 AM 2/18/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Fellow clayarters,
>
> Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
>firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
>does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?
>
> TIA P Dalton
>
Wellspring Clayworks
5412 Well Spring Road
La Plata, MD 20646
blewis@crosslink.net

Dannon Rhudy on fri 19 feb 99


Hardware stores (real ones) usually carry it, because it is used
to clear sewer lines of roots. You can also buy it from clay suppliers,
but more costly. The hardware store stuff is 99.9% copper sulphate.

Dannon Rhudy



At 07:42 AM 2/18/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Fellow clayarters,
>
> Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
>firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
>does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?
>
> TIA P Dalton
>
>
>

K L on fri 19 feb 99

Hi,
I had to go to a local chemical supply store to get mine. Found them in
the yellow pages. Hope this helps.
Klare


>Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:42:13 EST
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>From: Paula Dalton
>Subject: copper sulfate
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>
>----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
>Fellow clayarters,
>
> Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
>firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
>does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?
>
> TIA P Dalton


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Lana Reeves on fri 19 feb 99

Ceramic Supply of New York & New Jersey. I can't find their # this minute,
but they are in Lodi, NJ and New York City.

Lana who has the flu in Somerville, MA =^..^=
kilnkat@javanet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Paula Dalton
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 7:42 AM
Subject: copper sulfate


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Fellow clayarters,

Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?

TIA P Dalton

Tom Buck on fri 19 feb 99

Paula:
Are you closeby farms, orchards? CuSO4 is used as a multi-use farm
material. So try a "feed-store".

Tom Buck ) tel: 905-389-2339
& snailmail: 373 East 43rd St. Hamilton ON L8T 3E1 Canada
(westend Lake Ontario, province of Ontario, Canada).

June Perry on fri 19 feb 99

Check under the name Bordeau mix at the gardening centers. It's a cheap form
of powdered copper to use in pitfirings, saggars, etc.

Regards,
June

Charlie and Linda on fri 19 feb 99

Paula Dalton wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Fellow clayarters,
>
> Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
> firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
> does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?
>
> TIA P Dalton


Try hardware store in the "septic system cleaner" dept. Several brands
are just copper sulfate.

Charlie

Howard Jacobson on fri 19 feb 99



Paula Dalton wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Fellow clayarters,
>
> Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
> firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
> does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?
>
> TIA P Dalton

Copper Sulfate also known as Blue Vitrol is used in the Ag industry as an
eradicator of sapling trees and schrubs. In the plumbing industry it was
once used to kill roots in sewage lines that had a tendancy to clog up ( In
most cases it killed the tree too). Metalsmiths, and tinworkers used
copper sulfate to etch new galvanized metal so it would provide a tooth for
painting.
A good source for copper sulfate is a large volume distributor of chemical
products for agriculture to be found in the yellow pages under
chemicals-agriculture. It is most often available in the early spring of
the year. Be prepared to by a Minnium of 50 pounds.

Phyllis E. Tilton on fri 19 feb 99

Paula: Try and INDEPENDENT pharmacy or a farmer's supply place. The pharmacy
will order for you if they don't happen to have it in stock. One reason that
it might be difficult to find is the merchandise control which is often
computer or inventory related. If there is not a big demand and the items on
the shelf are not moving, the product gets removed. Pharmacy owners have to
pay taxes on the merchandise after a store wide inventory is taken. Many
products have a date either stamped on or encoded on the container and almost
always encoded on the price sticker. That is part of the inventory control.

Good Luck!!
Phyllis Tilton
Daisypet@aol.com

billie schwab on fri 19 feb 99

In the North East you can buy it at Agway stores too. I recently got
ten pounds and remember it did not cost much at all.........

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Louis Katz on sat 20 feb 99

My Understanding is that Bordeaux mix has other metalic compounds mixed with
it. Either way I would take a good look at safety information on copper
sulphate, and stay away from the fumes from the firing.
Louis

June Perry wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Check under the name Bordeau mix at the gardening centers. It's a cheap form
> of powdered copper to use in pitfirings, saggars, etc.
>
> Regards,
> June

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J. Carl Meigs on sat 20 feb 99

At 07:42 AM 2/18/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Fellow clayarters,
>
> Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
>firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
>does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?
>
> TIA P Dalton
>
>Paula,

You've gotten good advice on the list; in Connecticut, Agway wouldn't sell to
me without a license. In case you run into that problem: I got some from
U>S> Pigment in Kentucky, I believe. They advertise in Ceramics Monthly and
are very good about taking phone orders. I didn't have to buy 50 lbs either!
Gor! That would last longer than my life expectancy!
Let me know if you have trouble finding the numbers for US Pigment and I
will dig them up for you.

Good luck,
Carl Meigs
Brooklyn, CT

Marty Anderson on sun 21 feb 99

Hello, I must have missed the beginning of the post on copper sulfate for
pit firing. We use copper carb in our pit fires, what difference would
using copper sulfate be? I guess I am not familiar with the sulfate.

thanks

marty
martya@airmail.net

-----Original Message-----
From: K L
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: copper sulfate


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi,
I had to go to a local chemical supply store to get mine. Found them in
the yellow pages. Hope this helps.
Klare


>Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:42:13 EST
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>From: Paula Dalton
>Subject: copper sulfate
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>
>----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
>Fellow clayarters,
>
> Where is everyone buying copper sulfate for sawdust
>firings? The garden stores don't carry it anymore and neither
>does Columbus Clay. Is there still a supplier available?
>
> TIA P Dalton


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Jim Brooks on mon 22 feb 99

Marty..copper sulfate is a copper salt.....it is water soluable. so would not
normally be used in glazes. It is available in your area at feed stores.
it is also known as blue stone... it used to cost much less than
carbonate..so was cheaper to use. The price where u live has changed and it
cost almost as much as Copper Carb....

Joseph Herbert on tue 23 feb 99

Ms. Dalton: Copper sulfate is easily available as sewer line root
killer in a hardware or home center store. It is usually about $6.00
per pound. Go the the sewer line root killer section of the store and
read the lables. One will say copper sulfate or blue vitrol. Look for
large blue crystals in the container.

Joseph Herbert
Joseph.Herbert@att.net

Jeremy M. Hellman on thu 25 feb 99

Copper sulphate is listed in the Standard Ceramics 1999 catalog at $3.00
(US) a pound for one pound, going down to $2.75 for 5 lbs or more, $2.50
for 10 lbs or more and $1.75/lb when you buy 25 lbs. Usually by the time
you're thinking of 25 lbs it pays to buy the whole bag (which isn't
listed in the catalog but which is frequently available). With many
ingredients, the 25 lb price times the price per pound equals the cost of
a 50 lb bag.

I haven't priced the stuff in feed stores, but certainly shipping costs
are not minimal.

Bonnie

Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh, PA

(A satisfied customer of Standard Ceramics, with no business ties to them)

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