cp dunbar on fri 26 mar 99
wasn't it Joyce (itm) that talked about watching tapes and drinking
coffee re: pots (a robin hopper tape as i recollect)
sounds like us
if one is honest about it, we are weird (sorry Joyce)
ok, i was looking at a tape i got for christmas from robbin hopper
(imagine that, polite and all :) )
it was regarding throwing extended forms ie big pots
btw it was a good tape titled Advanced Throwing on the Potter's Wheel
another i am aware of is by Jepson, though he does not do all the
work in it titled, How to throw large pots
this tape features Bill Grossman
both tapes fair, not great
this may not be large for the veterans here but i threw an 18 inch pot
in height, and then i figured that most of the
rules that we use for normal pottery do not exactly fit this category
1 done w. different stages of drying
2 dries differently
3 harder to throw because of sheer size
4 probably will glaze differently because of room taken up in kiln, and
glaze will tend to run more as the figure is more vertical
5 throwing tools must vary - need bigger tools
6 need to have a torch or much patience ( i bought a torch)
7 these bug'rs are hard to trim, and they don't fit a giffin grip
8 forms tend to be classical or similar to old large storage jars
i wonder if anyone knows of texts that describe the unique problems of
throwing large
any other tapes ? i vaguely remember an oriental dad and son with a
plate big enough to fly in (orientals are hungry)
life is kind of like that - more problems if you throw large
easier on your body to stay small
nothing new to figure out
problems similar to everyone else
me - i still prefer to throw life large when i can
and suck up all the marrow that is within it
more arthritis, more risk, but tis better to have thrown life large
than never to have thrown at all
cp, by the pond
the d___ lilly pads are coming up and i must find a way to kill them
i feel remotely like wiley coyote
Joyce LEE on sat 11 sep 04
Thank you, thank you, David H., for saying that YOU....
a Major Guru..... need to practice newer forms and
larger amounts of clay than you've been throwing in a
while. When I left clay I was centering
15 pounds or so..... and occasionally a little more.....
the "little more" was a struggle but I could do it...
a few times as much as 25.
Now I'm finding that my old Bad Habits that I thought
I'd eliminated through practice practice practice......=20
have jumped right onto that Shimpo into the clay, and
I'm having to work on them once more. Drat.
Same ol'/same ol'. I can center the ball of clay=20
(less than 15 pounds) but I'm either opening poorly or
I'm forming a lopsided ball of clay in the first place.
Figures, I guess. Eyebrows are lopsided... smile is
the same.... feet.... nose. BUT I more or less
conquered this magical process once..... any ideas
why I cannot now....... and how to correct it. I've
thrown dozens and dozens of pots recently and cut
them in half...... sure enough, there's ALWAYS part
of a wall&rim that is thinner than the rest.
Thank you for any responses. I know most of you
throw beautifully and maybe no longer think about
your exact process ....... I do indeed envy you.
Joyce
In the Mojave where rain, thunder, lightning, flash
floods surround our area........ but nothing here......
Roly Beevor on mon 13 sep 04
Joyce LEE wrote: there's ALWAYS part
of a wall&rim that is thinner than the rest.
As one very much still thinking about how do throw
I wonder, is this to do with the way one pulls up? If
you pull up by bending the elbows will the fingers
tend to move together, more than if you use the shoulders
and back, so moving the arms up as a whole?
Roly Beevor
Joyce LEE on mon 13 sep 04
Joyce LEE wrote: there's ALWAYS part
of a wall&rim that is thinner than the rest.
Roly Beevor responded:
As one very much still thinking about how to throw
I wonder, is this to do with the way one pulls up? If
you pull up by bending the elbows will the fingers
tend to move together, more than if you use the shoulders
and back, so moving the arms up as a whole?
--------------------------------------------------
Some incredibly thoughtful and time-consuming posts
have come my way since writing the above. I'm
paying close attention to each of them. =20
One simple suggestion ... that I'd forgotten about since
venturing away from clay for a bit ... is to be mindful of
keeping the Pull Up Speed equivalent to the Speed at
which the Wheel Turns. Thank you, Gay.
AND Richard M., Mike G., Tony C., Bonnie S. .... what gifts
you have
given me of time and directly applicable help! How special
you've made this day for me. I was frustrated but this
gets me back on track. Once again I was jumping the gun
on my abilities. I'm canceling my scheduled shows and
learning to THROW thanks to all of you .... and to many others
who've added a meaningful sentence here&there about
the whole throwing process.
Are we some kind of group, or what!
Joyce
In the Mojave where Cinder (short for Cinderella) visited the westie =
yesterday .... a young part Lab....
many times taller than Mojo ..... Cinder pounced and gamboled....
where did the westie develop that ferocious growl and evil
bark ..... as the two tore across the scrub acreage, in and out
of the studio, westie nipping at Cinder's heels..... a large yellow
streak and a tiny white ball of fluff. Where and when did the
westie come up with that warlike reaction to such play? Amazing.
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on tue 14 sep 04
Dear Joyce Lee,
I am intrigued by your statement <<....be mindful of keeping the Pull
Up Speed equivalent to the Speed at which the Wheel Turns...>> I am
confused as to what this might mean.
Are you saying that for each revolution you move your hands a small
but identical amount. If you are, what is the ideal distance to lift
your fingers during each rotation? Is this constant for all occasions?
If not, what are the factors which govern the rate of lift?
Best regards
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
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