Jeanette Harris on thu 1 apr 99
Does anyone have the e-mail address of the potter's supply place in Florida
(?) who offered to sell Talisman Sieves in either January or February for
around $75.00, shipping free?
Thanks much
Jeanette
Ravit Birenboim on fri 2 apr 99
Hi, do not have the information, but I wanted to ask if the Talisman sieves
are usefull?
Thank you.
Ravit
Timothy Dean Malm on mon 5 apr 99
Greetings: Though the sieves are not inexpensive, I find them to be an
excellent tool. It saves me a ton of time in spreparing glazes.Sincerely,
Tim Malm
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7oise?= Bazard on mon 12 apr 99
Dear Jeanette,
I'm not sure but I think the provider of Talisman Sieves was :
http://www.kruegerpottery.com
Best regards
--
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mailto:francoise.bazard@beaux-arts.com 67800 HOENHEIM FRANCE
http://www.le-village.com/musee/bazardceram
http://www.multimania.com/fbazard
Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman on thu 16 may 02
Hi All,
I'm getting ready to take the plunge and buy a Talisman sieve, and wondered
if I should buy the replacement brushes at the same time? Do they wear out
quickly? Will I get 100 5-gallon glaze batches out of one set? More? Less?
I see that Axner sells them for $119 fo rthe 80 mesh sieve. Does anyone know
where I might find a better deal?
Any comments on them before I send away my money?
TIA
Bonnie
Bonnie Hellman
home email: mou10man@sgi.net
work email: oliviatcavy@juno.com
Neil Grant on fri 17 may 02
we have used the sieve at the school for close on twenty years. and the =
brushes take years to wear. It's more the students grabbing them for =
other things and making them disappear.
Neil Grant
Otago Polytechnic
School of Art
New Zealand
www.tekotago.ac.nz/art/=20
>>> mou10man@SGI.NET 05/17/02 12:38PM >>>
Hi All,
I'm getting ready to take the plunge and buy a Talisman sieve, and =
wondered
if I should buy the replacement brushes at the same time? Do they wear out
quickly? Will I get 100 5-gallon glaze batches out of one set? More? Less?
I see that Axner sells them for $119 fo rthe 80 mesh sieve. Does anyone =
know
where I might find a better deal?
Any comments on them before I send away my money?
TIA
Bonnie
Bonnie Hellman
home email: mou10man@sgi.net=20
work email: oliviatcavy@juno.com=20
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David Hendley on fri 17 may 02
You can make your own glaze sieve that is as fast as the Talisman,
for about $10.
Throw the basic shape of the body on the wheel.
I made mine upside down, with the wide end on the bat.
On the small end (the top as you are throwing) make a half-inch
wide flat spot with a lip on the edge. The outside diameter should
be 11-12 inches in diameter, so it will fit in a pickle bucket, and so
12" wide sieve screen will fit over it.
Once glazed and fired, attach the screen with an extra long stainless
steel hose clamp on the flat area. If you can't find one long enough,
you can hook several together.
I get my sieve screen at Trinity Ceramic supply for about $6 a
square foot.
Buy a brush at the dollar store for brushing the glaze through
the screen. The best brush I found had a handle, and I cut it off.
Bonnie, I know I couldn't convince you to build your own extruder,
and you will probably go ahead and buy this imported beauty, but
just in case someone else is interested.....
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Talisman Sieves
> Hi All,
>
> I'm getting ready to take the plunge and buy a Talisman sieve, and
wondered
> if I should buy the replacement brushes at the same time? Do they wear out
> quickly? Will I get 100 5-gallon glaze batches out of one set? More? Less?
>
> I see that Axner sells them for $119 fo rthe 80 mesh sieve. Does anyone
know
> where I might find a better deal?
>
> Any comments on them before I send away my money?
>
> TIA
>
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie Hellman
>
> home email: mou10man@sgi.net
> work email: oliviatcavy@juno.com
>
Joseph Dallas on fri 17 may 02
Hey Bonnie,
Buy it! I've had mine for 10 years. And I'm sure I've run
a hundred batches of glaze through it. The brushes haven't
worn out yet. It makes mixing glazes much less of a chore.
The first time you use it, you'll kick yourself for not
getting it sooner.
Anyway...that's my 2 cents.
Later,
Joe Dallas
Dallas Pottery & Architectural Ceramics
Columbus, GA
jedallas@att.net
http://home.att.net/~jedallas
Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm getting ready to take the plunge and buy a Talisman sieve, and
wondered
> if I should buy the replacement brushes at the same time? Do they wear out
> quickly? Will I get 100 5-gallon glaze batches out of one set? More? Less?
>
>
Karin Hurt on fri 17 may 02
try: www.bigceramicstore.com
I've bought several things through them and been pleased.
Karin Hurt
www.laughingbearpottery.com
claybair on sat 18 may 02
I made my sieves also. I cut the bottom out of large plastic salad bowls I
picked up at K-mart ( blue light special). I bought 80 & 100 mesh screen at
a hardware which I "glued" in place with silicon caulk.
They fit over my 5 gal. buckets perfectly.
I've been using them for several years now the only wear being the caulk
lifting slightly due to my overly vigorous brushing.
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of David Hendley
You can make your own glaze sieve that is as fast as the Talisman,
for about $10.
Throw the basic shape of the body on the wheel.
I made mine upside down, with the wide end on the bat.
On the small end (the top as you are throwing) make a half-inch
wide flat spot with a lip on the edge. The outside diameter should
be 11-12 inches in diameter, so it will fit in a pickle bucket, and so
12" wide sieve screen will fit over it.
Once glazed and fired, attach the screen with an extra long stainless
steel hose clamp on the flat area. If you can't find one long enough,
you can hook several together.
I get my sieve screen at Trinity Ceramic supply for about $6 a
square foot.
Buy a brush at the dollar store for brushing the glaze through
the screen. The best brush I found had a handle, and I cut it off.
Bonnie, I know I couldn't convince you to build your own extruder,
and you will probably go ahead and buy this imported beauty, but
just in case someone else is interested.....
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Talisman Sieves
> Hi All,
>
> I'm getting ready to take the plunge and buy a Talisman sieve, and
wondered
> if I should buy the replacement brushes at the same time? Do they wear out
> quickly? Will I get 100 5-gallon glaze batches out of one set? More? Less?
>
> I see that Axner sells them for $119 fo rthe 80 mesh sieve. Does anyone
know
> where I might find a better deal?
>
> Any comments on them before I send away my money?
>
> TIA
>
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie Hellman
>
> home email: mou10man@sgi.net
> work email: oliviatcavy@juno.com
>
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Ababi on sat 18 may 02
When about a year or two there was a thread about the talisman, I meant
to buy, but 120$ four times 480 in my money! A lot of money!
I found this answer. Do you know the rubber disk you attach to an
electric drill I think 5 inches wide? You add sandpaper to it? First I
asked my good friend Shimon he added a longer rod. On the
other side where you suppose to attach the sandpaper I glued with
contact cement a piece of rubber from a car wheel's tube. to avoid the
head of the screw, ruin the sieve's screen. You can use it with or
without drill works fine. I added a picture to my site_utility page
Ababi
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/
Klyf Brown on sun 19 may 02
Bonnie,
I consider my sieves to be the easiest to make and long lasting. Large
sieve area makes them fast to use.
Most all of us five gallon plastic buckets. Most all of them stack
together. This sieve requires two of them.
Take one of the buckets, if you have a wheel place it on the wheel
and while spinning mark it with a magic marker about an inch below
the last rib (where the bail attaches). Use a wood hand saw and cut
the bucket off at your marking. The cut does not have to be perfectly
flat or even, but it helps. A jig saw could also be used. Cut off the
burrs with a sharp knife.
Use a one square foot piece of screne (hardare cloth). Place the
screne so that it covers the entire bottom of the cut off bucket (short
piece with handle).
Use a soldering iron on high heat, I use a stained glass iron as it is
heavy and hot enough. Place it on the screne at one point and hold it
down until the plastic melts and the screne is pressed into the molten
plastic. when you release the iron, the plastic will solidify quickly and
the screne will be embeded in it. Go to a point 180 degrees from the
original tack and repeat the process while holding the screne tightly.
Repeat at 90 degrees, both sides. You now have a tightly streched
screne attached at four points. Go back to your starting point, press in
the iron till the plastic melts, as you press down slide the iron the
width of it's head, hold, repeat untill you have gone around the whole
thing and have a continous weld all around the bucket and the screne
is embeded in it.
Now thke a sharp knife or sizzors and cut off the extending screne
and overlaping weld material till the cut off bucket is round again. This
screne fits perfectly into a five gallon bucket with no spilling out
possible and has a large area of screne to sieve with. It also holds a
lot of material and the weight of the material helps push it through.
Many different brushes or paddles will help to keep material flowing
(see other recent posts for tips on these).
After use, flip it upside down over another bucket and hose it off,
collecting the residue for OSHA and EPA approved disposal
methods. HARRR.
I have used many screnes of varrying mesh sizes to sieve hundreds of
gallons of material with this design. The handle is also handy to hang
this screne on the wall to keep it out of the way or you can stack
several of them together, or you can stack it in another bucket.
I otta patten this method. Then I could spend the rest of my life with
lawyers.
Price, $2 to $10 per sieve depending on mesh size.
Klyf in New Mexico usa
>> I see that Axner sells them for $119 fo rthe 80 mesh sieve. Does
anyoneknow >> where I might find a better deal?
>> Any comments on them before I send away my money?
>> TIA
>> Bonnie
Roger Graham on sun 19 may 02
Been following the thread on commercially made glaze sieves, and the ideas
offered for home-made versions. In particular, Gayle Bair's good one using a
plastic salad bowl, bottom cut out, sieve attached with silicon caulk. Our
most-used glaze sieve was made years ago from a plastic polythene bucket,
bottom carefully cut out in the usual way. Then the square of gauze was laid
over the open end, and a large hot soldering iron applied carefully all
around the contact line. The idea of course is to melt the thermoplastic
stuff so it squishes up through the meshes of the gauze and seals over the
wires as the hot iron moves along. When it's all sealed over, go around the
edge of the bucket with stout scissors and cut away the excess gauze. Lasts
for ever, and easier to clean up than a fancy expensive one. Just brush the
glaze through with a suitable paint brush.
Gayle's version using a big salad bowl sounds better than mine, if it sits
comfortably over the 5-gallon glaze bucket. Didn't think of that. Ours has
to hang by its handle, on a little hook, from a length of chain fixed to a
rafter over the workshop sink. Can adjust the height up and down by choosing
which link to hook into. But the salad-bowl idea is a winner.
Roger Graham. http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rogergraham
Steve Mills on mon 20 may 02
Or buy a heavy duty plastic bucket, cut the bottom out leaving the foot,
warm up the griddle to about 300F, put a large piece of baking foil on
the griddle, mesh on the foil, bucket on the mesh and press until the
bucket and mesh are fused, run under cold water, peel off the foil, trim
the mesh and it's finished. All you need then is a washing-up brush to
complete the set. Cheap, easy to clean, and dead easy to use. What more
do you need!
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , David Hendley writes
>You can make your own glaze sieve that is as fast as the Talisman,
>for about $10.
>Throw the basic shape of the body on the wheel.
>I made mine upside down, with the wide end on the bat.
>On the small end (the top as you are throwing) make a half-inch
>wide flat spot with a lip on the edge. The outside diameter should
>be 11-12 inches in diameter, so it will fit in a pickle bucket, and so
>12" wide sieve screen will fit over it.
>
>Once glazed and fired, attach the screen with an extra long stainless
>steel hose clamp on the flat area. If you can't find one long enough,
>you can hook several together.
>I get my sieve screen at Trinity Ceramic supply for about $6 a
>square foot.
>
>Buy a brush at the dollar store for brushing the glaze through
>the screen. The best brush I found had a handle, and I cut it off.
>
>Bonnie, I know I couldn't convince you to build your own extruder,
>and you will probably go ahead and buy this imported beauty, but
>just in case someone else is interested.....
>
>David Hendley
>Maydelle, Texas
>hendley@tyler.net
>http://www.farmpots.com
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:38 PM
>Subject: Talisman Sieves
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm getting ready to take the plunge and buy a Talisman sieve, and
>wondered
>> if I should buy the replacement brushes at the same time? Do they wear =
>out
>> quickly? Will I get 100 5-gallon glaze batches out of one set? More? Le=
>ss?
>>
>> I see that Axner sells them for $119 fo rthe 80 mesh sieve. Does anyone
>know
>> where I might find a better deal?
>>
>> Any comments on them before I send away my money?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Bonnie
>>
>> Bonnie Hellman
>>
>> home email: mou10man@sgi.net
>> work email: oliviatcavy@juno.com
>>
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Bob Johnson on sat 31 mar 07
Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up the
work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
price---about $125?
Bob - in Oregon
William & Susan Schran User on sat 31 mar 07
On 3/31/07 1:54 PM, "Bob Johnson" wrote:
> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
> brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up the
> work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
> in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
> price---about $125?
We use the Talisman sieve at school, with 30m & 80m screens.
For larger batches - 5,000/10,000 grams, or larger, it does speed things up
a bit.
Yet my studio assistants still like to use the usual sieves that will sit
comfortably in a 5 gallon bucket. They use a bristle scrub brush to move the
material through the screen. They say the Talisman takes longer to clean.
We also have Talisman test sieves. They work great for small test amounts of
glaze. We use a stiff bristle brush, like a stamping brush, to push material
through the screen.
If you have a small studio and don't make large batches of glaze very often,
it might make more sense to get regular and test size sieves and just use
stiff brushes to push the chemicals through.
Alex Solla on sat 31 mar 07
To answer your question Bob...
in a word; YES.
Without a doubt it is one of the biggest time savers in our studio.
I have used ours weekly since 2001, and I LOVE IT.
I have always used a drill mixer to get things mixed up and then
a seive to ensure all the chunks and bits dont end up on pots.
Absolutely wonderful combination. Sure, some folks will say that seiving
isnt necessary if you are using a drill mixer... and yeah, sure,
if you have glazes that dont NEED to be mixed perfectly...but the Talisman
is so easy to use. Our glazes DO need to be seived periodically... so this
workflow works perfectly for us.
$125 is a lot of dough to a potter, but my attitude is sell a couple pots,
and dont even think about it again!
cheers,
Alex Solla
Cold Springs Studio Pottery
4088 Cold Springs Road
Trumansburg, NY 14886
607-387-4042 voice/fax
info@coldspringsstudio.com
www.coldspringsstudio.com
Bob asked:
Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
price---about $125?
Bob - in Oregon
Bonnie Hellman on sat 31 mar 07
A few years ago I posed the same query to clayart. Most people liked it for
sieving larger quantities, but many people complained that they "lost" a lot
of glaze in the brushed and cleanup was a pain.
I bought mine anyway, and for sieving larger quantities, it's great. Maybe
there is some glaze "lost" in the cleanup in the brushes, but IMHO it's far
easier than any other method for making a bunch of gallons of glaze. Frankly
my time saving is worth far more than the small amount of glaze I may waste.
You'll have to choose what mesh sieve you want when you buy it, or spend
what seemed like a disproportionately large amount of money in buying a
second sieve.
So the definitive answer to whether it's worth the money to buy one comes
down to whether you can afford it, how much glaze you make, and how valuable
you consider your time. I used to use, and still use for smaller quantities,
a nylon brush on a handle sold in the kitchen section of most supermarkets
designed to clean dishes. Costs about $2-3, but takes longer than the
Talisman sieve.
Bonnie
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Ouray, Colorado 81427
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Johnson"
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:54 AM
Subject: Talisman sieves
> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
> brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up the
> work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
> in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
> price---about $125?
>
> Bob - in Oregon
>
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Jeanette Harris on sat 31 mar 07
>Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
Hey, Bob,
I love my Tailsman sieve! I was lucky enough to get one in NZ where
they are made and at a really good price. I bought a set of brushes
just in case, but I've never had to replace them and I use the sieve
almost exclusively. They are so simply made, lightweight, easy to
disassemble and clean and just don't have anything quirkey about them
to go wrong. You do, however, have to make sure you clean them well
after use, as you would any good tool. Even at the US price, it's
well worth the investment, I think.
Cheers,
Jeanette
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Poulsbo WA
Taylor Hendrix on sat 31 mar 07
Bob,
If you're a do-it-yourselfer, you might consider making a similar
thing with an old electric icecream churn or even the hand crank kind.
Just need to work out a way to attach stiff brushes above a sieve and
a way to support the motor/crank. I've got an old electric churn motor
sitting on a lower shelf just waiting for me to pay it some attention.
Oh where does all the time go?
Taylor, in Rockport TX
On 3/31/07, Bob Johnson wrote:
> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
> brushes on a crank handle.
claystevslat on sat 31 mar 07
Bob --
What could take a half hour with a conventional sieve takes
5 minutes or less with a Talisman. Some of my glazes require
2x or 3x sieving each time I use them, and without the Talisman
they would be a tremendous headache. With it, it's no issue to
use them --
The Talisman also seats itself very firmly in a 5 gal bucket,
and it's pretty easy to disassemble and clean (I usually shoot it
from the underside with water first to clean pieces, then
disassemble, then wash individual parts. The brushes are quite
durable, though at some point they do need to be replaced.
Replacements are not too expensive.
Problems -- When you do a test batch, you can't use it -- a 5 gal
bucket is too big to use, and it doesn't balance well on a smaller
size (I do sometimes use it over a flat-bottomed bowl I threw that
it fits pretty well.) If you don't remember to clean the brushes,
they do get stained with RIO somewhat (though it doesn't seem to
transfer to subsequent glaze batches). The wooden handle will squeak
a bit after a year or so if you don't oil it.
Every once in a long while, they go on sale. As durable as they
are, though, I think the price is not bad. If I lost mine tomorrow,
I'd buy one a full list price -- and I might use strong language
under my breath, but I'd not regret it. Buying a used one is
occasionally possible, and is a good idea. The screens are
inexpensive and easy to replace, as are the brushes, so for a
reasonable price it's good as new.
Best wishes -- Steve Slatin
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Bob Johnson wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
> brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up
the
> work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say
here
> in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
> price---about $125?
>
> Bob - in Oregon
liz gowen on sat 31 mar 07
Agree with the clean up and waste problem with the talisman. At a John H
glaze workshop John pulled out one of those flat cut, round stencil =
brush
and we used it with a regular sieve and it worked great. Fills the bill =
for
both tests and mid size batches and is much easier to clean up, and of
course less waste for me.
Liz Gowen
. They say the Talisman takes longer to clean.
If you have a small studio and don't make large batches of glaze very =
often,
it might make more sense to get regular and test size sieves and just =
use
stiff brushes to push the chemicals through.
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Kathy McDonald on sat 31 mar 07
Had mine about 10 years now.
worth every penny and more if you can afford it.
Kathy
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:55 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Talisman sieves
Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes
with
brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really
speed up the
work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we
say here
in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is
worth the
price---about $125?
Bob - in Oregon
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June Perry on sat 31 mar 07
I love my Talisman sieves. I have several mesh size inserts for mine; and I
also have the smaller ones that I use for test batches. If the glaze is one
of the difficult to sieve formulas, I will use a coarser siever for the first
run through and then switch to a finer mesh sieve.
It is an amazing time and back saver.
For the smaller ones Talisman test sieves, I use an old tooth brush to brush
the material through. What I do is put the toothbrush in boiling water to
soften the plastic and then I bend the brush section so it sit flat when the
stem of the brush is erect. When bent it will look like a capital "L" .
Regards,
June
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Kathi LeSueur on sat 31 mar 07
Bob Johnson wrote:
> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
> brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up the
> work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
> in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
> price---about $125?
>
> Bob - in Oregon>>>
Absolutely! Especially if you are making large quanities of glaze.
Sieving is incredibly fast.
Kathi
>
>
>
Bob Hanlin on sat 31 mar 07
It's one of the best tools I have.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of
Bob Johnson
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:55 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Talisman sieves
Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes
with
brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really
speed up the
work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we
say here
in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is
worth the
price---about $125?
Bob - in Oregon
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Joan Klotz on sat 31 mar 07
As an ex Lab assistant who mixed up a lot of 5 gallon (or larger)
batches of glaze I'd say absolutely yes. The brushes pop out easily
for clean up and you can sieve large batches of glaze in a very short
time. Of course if you have free labor i.e. have volunteer
assistants to make up your glazes then maybe the $125 could be spent
on something more satisfying to you. But I wouls be pretty peeved if
you placed such a low value on my time.
Joan Klotz
At 10:54 AM 3/31/2007, you wrote:
>Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?--
> It looks like it would really speed up the
>work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
>in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
>price---about $125?
Mike on sun 1 apr 07
I bought one last year and it cut my glaze mixing time down by more than
half. I do large batches, usually 30+pounds of material at a go. Well
worth the money, even moreso if you seive a lot of ash. I don't
understand the complaints about cleaning, just pop out the screen and
the brushes and spray with a garden hose. Clean. Maybe I use easily
cleanable materials.
Mike
in Taku, Japan
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potteryofjapan.com
Bob Johnson wrote:
> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
> brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up the
> work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
> in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
> price---about $125?
>
> Bob - in Oregon
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William & Susan Schran User on sun 1 apr 07
On 3/31/07 10:43 PM, "Joan Klotz" wrote:
> Of course if you have free labor i.e. have volunteer
> assistants to make up your glazes then maybe the $125 could be spent
> on something more satisfying to you. But I wouls be pretty peeved if
> you placed such a low value on my time.
I have two volunteer assistants, and I certainly value their time.
Whenever I mix 5 gallon bucket batches of glaze, I spend 15 minutes weighing
materials, then 5 minutes sieving with the Talisman, including cleaning.
My assistants choose to use the other sieves.
I walk by and ask why they don't use the Talisman.
They respond that it's too much of a cleaning hassle.
I just shake my head and walk on.
It's their choice, it's their time.
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Lisa E on sun 1 apr 07
Absolutely worth it and you can find them for $15 at:
http://www.euclids.com/tilebatt.htm
Lisa
Squamish, BC
On 3/31/07, Bob Johnson wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
> brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up the
> work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
> in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
> price---about $125?
>
> Bob - in Oregon
>
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Julene on sun 1 apr 07
For potters not needing to make large batches of
glazes, or even if one does and is used to using
the handheld mixer, these, also, work great in
speeding up the sieving process.
Ones usual sieve sits over the bucket. One pours
in glaze. Use blender. The glaze goes through the
sieve quite quickly. Add more glaze until all is
sieved. Sieve back into the original bucket. Add
water to the bucket to clean out bucket and use
this water as needed to adjust your specific
gravity.
Julene, Spring and Spring cleaning. Stray cats
moved into the garage studio over the winter.
Don't know if they are preferable to the squirrels
that tried before them. The cats are fed. Well,
the squirrels are fed, too, but must eat with the
birds. I, now, know why some do not like these
creatures. From my website, one knows I am a cat
lover and protector of strays, but...
Cindi Anderson on sun 1 apr 07
I'm pretty anal about giving up even a small amount of glaze. I just hold
back some water (mix the glaze on the thick side) and use it at the end to
clean most of the glaze off the sieve and into the bucket.
Cindi
Reno, NV
----- Original Message -----
Agree with the clean up and waste problem with the talisman.
WJ Seidl on sun 1 apr 07
Having had the opportunity to use a Talisman sieve recently, I have to echo
the sentiments of their taking longer to clean than a 'regular" sieve.
It seemed to work well, other than a design flaw I found.
Is there a way to get a message to the manufacturer to angle the brushes
(much like the angle on a snowplow) so that the slop is grabbed and sent
toward the center? As it is now, with the brushes perpendicular to the
radius, it allows the slop to move to the edges. Making it all go back onto
the screen from the plastic rim (by hand, I might add) took as long as
cleaning it.
(Yeah, I know, it is designed to be rotated in either direction. But there
is no need, if the brushes can be slipped out and reversed, eliminating the
"memory" of the bristles, much like a push broom.)
Just my $0.01-1/2
Wayne Seidl
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Cindi Anderson
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 2:52 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Talisman sieves
I'm pretty anal about giving up even a small amount of glaze. I just hold
back some water (mix the glaze on the thick side) and use it at the end to
clean most of the glaze off the sieve and into the bucket.
Cindi
Reno, NV
----- Original Message -----
Agree with the clean up and waste problem with the talisman.
Russel Fouts on sun 1 apr 07
>> Has anyone tried a Talisman sieve?---the sieve that comes with
brushes on a crank handle. It looks like it would really speed up the
work of mixing glazes, but it is also pretty "spendy," as we say here
in the Northwest. Any opinions on whether the Talisman is worth the
price---about $125? <<
Any sturdy brush will do. I prefer a large headed, round type of
brush that we have here.
Something like this:
http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Painting-supply/p/bg/1002221594.htm
A whitewash brush will also work well.
BTW, I like these round headed brushes for stirring small batches of
glaze, or maiolica colors in their pots as well as for sieving. They
come in all sizes.
For big batches of glaze, slip and terra-sig, nothing beats a toilet
brush! (nothing. won't even consider using something else. this is
the ONLY way. anything else is a waste of time. period)
Russel
Russel Fouts
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WJ Seidl on sun 1 apr 07
My apologies. The sentence in my earlier post should read "parallel to the
radii". DUH!
Wayne Seidl
As it is now, with the brushes perpendicular to the
radius, it allows the slop to move to the edges.
Lee Love on sun 1 apr 07
There is no "clean up and glaze waste" problem with these for working
batch sizes.
Mine is indispensable. They are especially useful for wood ash
(keeps your hands out of the caustic mix) and other hard to sieve
"natural" materials.
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