Bob Schroeder on thu 8 apr 99
I ve been an artEEst for 40 years and a student of others art for 30 years.
Can t recall ever reading any statement an artist ever wrote than said
anything worthwhile. As for me I ll start writing artist statements as
soon as authors start drawing their novels. It s a tits on a boar kinda
thing if you ask me.
Becky in Litchfield
Vince Pitelka on fri 9 apr 99
>I ve been an artEEst for 40 years and a student of others art for 30 years.
> Can t recall ever reading any statement an artist ever wrote than said
>anything worthwhile. As for me I ll start writing artist statements as
>soon as authors start drawing their novels. It s a tits on a boar kinda
>thing if you ask me.
Becky -
I appreciate the fact that you state this clearly as an ecclectic personal
opinion, and are not implying that others should agree with your point of
view. Thank you for that. But I wonder why you would admit such a thing on
Clayart. Are you proud of this? In all my years of teaching, I have never
come across anyone who claimed to be a student of art who would make such a
sweeping, all-exclusive, profoundly negative statement about art. You are
basically saying that visual artists are incapable of saying anything
worthwhile with the written word, which is of course patently ridiculous.
Such a point of view severely limits the potential to understand and
appreciate the artistic expression of others. That's a hell of a way to be
a "student of art."
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
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Larry Phillips on sun 11 apr 99
Vince Pitelka wrote:
> You are basically saying that visual artists are incapable of saying
> anything worthwhile with the written word, which is of course patently
> ridiculous.
I don't get that from her posting at all. I think she is saying that
visual artists exprtess themselves BEST with visual work, just as
novelists express themselves BEST with the written word.
I thgink Frank Zappa said it best, when he said "Talking about music
is link dancing about architecture."
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dickt on sun 11 apr 99
NEW MESSAGE.Ref. ARTISTS STATEMENTS
Here is my artist statement: " I'm a potter, I make pottery. Some people
like what I produce. Those that like my pots buy them, those that don't,
don't." I must admit that I don't understand what most artist say in their
"statement". If they fail include a photograph of their work in the
statement, I wouldn't have any idea what they produce.
In my humble opinion, most statements are vague and without definition. They
are only valuable to other artists who have written a similar vague
statements. When I am accepted into exhibitions, I only include a
"statement" if it is required for entry. I include my name, where I live,
where I have been trained and most importantly a GOOD PHOTO OF MY WORK.
Through this process I been successful in entering and receiving recognition
in most shows.
The whole idea of artists statements seem to be perpetuated by galleries and
the academic community.
Oh, by the way, I am left brained, way left. As if you haven't already
guessed.
Vince Pitelka on mon 12 apr 99
>The whole idea of artists statements seem to be perpetuated by galleries and
>the academic community.
The implications here may be offensive. I'm not saying they ARE offensive,
because I am quite certain that the author did not intend to offend.
But this is typical of quite a bit of rather disturbing rhetoric on Clayart
which seems to be anti-academia. It is such narrowminded bullshit. We are
all better than that, I hope. Are there really people out there who are
threatened by the fact that some of us get paid to think about clay and
write about clay from a scholarly or intellectual point of view? Is this
really a problem? No, of course it is not. It is an absolutely necessary
part of the gathering and processing of knowledge. But at the same time, it
is an inescapable reality that some academics tend to lose themselves in the
intellectual convolutions of their own thinking and/or writing. Those ones
are easy to spot, and often not worth deciphering. It's your choice how you
want to interpret and understand the artwork you view. But please consider
this. Any blanket generalizations you make about artist's statements only
reflect badly on you.
The statement at the top seems to imply that the galleries and the academic
community are mounting an evil conspiracy against the true lay-appreciator
of fine art, attempting to subvert honest interpretation and understanding
of art by couching it in a twisted veil of intellectual rhetoric. Come on,
folks, let's get real here.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Fay & Ralph Loewenthal on tue 13 apr 99
Vince quoted ">The whole idea of artists
statements seem to be perpetuated by galleries
and the academic community."
He then replied "The implications here may be
offensive. I'm not saying they ARE offensive,
because I am quite certain that the author did not
intend to offend.
But this is typical of quite a bit of rather disturbing
rhetoric on Clayart which seems to be anti-
academia. It is such narrowminded bullshit. We
are all better than that, I hope"
Vince in our neck of the woods it is just like that.
The academia control the Regional Potters'
Associations to such an extent that we noted last
year in our regional exhibition all the prize winners
were either lecturers or students at the Technikon.
This is a tertiary education institution where, until
recently, only diplomas are conferred. They now
can confer degrees as well. I may sound like "sour
grapes", or paranoid, and that may be correct. It is
the hard experience of feeling bad about oneself
and work that has taught us not to enter these
exhibitions. We do not conform to the academia's
rules and this is taboo, so we refrain from those
exhibitions where they are in control.
This is another viewpoint which is not "bullshit", but
hard fact. Ralph in PE SA.
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