Fabienne Cassman on mon 12 apr 99
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Hello folks,
I just lost another plate while trimming it because the bottom warped. I
really was not interested in keeping it that way so I recycled it. The
larger the plate, the harder it is to trim without incurring this problem.
I thought of supporting the underside with foam or something, but it seems
rather excessive to have a circle for every plate size I make. If I let
the plate dry some more so it doesn't warp, it is difficult to trim it. I
don't push down on the plate=3B I really am careful after seeing it happen
enough times. How do you deal with it? Do you use any hip tools to assist
you?
Thank you so much.
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Faye 04/09/99-new pics =40 http://clay.justnet.com
Yes, I have learned from my mistakes...
I can reproduce them exactly.
Liz Willoughby on tue 13 apr 99
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Hello Faye,
Use a 6=22 disc, or thin bat, cover with a larger circle of thin foam, and
use it to support the upside down plate on the wheel. You don't have to
use a disk the same width as the plate. It is usually the centre of plate
that slumps so it is really only necessary to support the centre. You can
use this size for most plates.
Good luck,
Liz
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=3EHello folks,
=3E
=3EI just lost another plate while trimming it because the bottom warped. I
=3Ereally was not interested in keeping it that way so I recycled it. The
=3Elarger the plate, the harder it is to trim without incurring this =
problem.
=3EI thought of supporting the underside with foam or something, but it =
seems
=3Erather excessive to have a circle for every plate size I make. If I let
=3Ethe plate dry some more so it doesn't warp, it is difficult to trim it. =
I
=3Edon't push down on the plate=3B I really am careful after seeing it =
happen
=3Eenough times. How do you deal with it? Do you use any hip tools to =
assist
=3Eyou?
=3E
=3EThank you so much.
=3E
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=3EFaye 04/09/99-new pics =40 http://clay.justnet.com
=3E
=3E Yes, I have learned from my mistakes...
=3E I can reproduce them exactly.
Liz Willoughby
R.R.=23 1
2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
Grafton, Ontario
Canada
e-mail, lizwill=40phc.igs.net
Gordon on tue 13 apr 99
Faye-
I have been using socks filled with rice for awhile to make sure
my plates stay nice and flat when they are drying.I found another use for
them-I was looking around for foam to put under very large plates that
needed trimming and when none could be found I picked up these rice socks.
They are perfect for the job ! I put them under the large platters and
they supported the flat bottom from bending as I trimmed it- since the
rice sock is "mallable" you can push it around until it gives the correct
support.I used 2 or 3 for the platters but one would work well for a plate.
Good luck on your next plate trimming session.
Kathleen Gordon
Palo Alto,Ca
email:emgordon@batnet.com
voice:650-328-9164
"If things seem under control you are not going fast enough"
Mario Andretti
Tom Wirt on wed 14 apr 99
>>>From: Fabienne Cassman
Subject: Trimming Plates' Bottoms
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Hello folks,
I just lost another plate while trimming it because the bottom warped. I
really was not interested in keeping it that way so I recycled it. The
larger the plate, the harder it is to trim without incurring this problem.
I thought of supporting the underside with foam or something, but it seems
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Hi again Faye,
The tools I use for platters are the Kemper R-4 and R-1. They are the
ribbon tools and give a very fine touch. I used to put foam under the
center, but quit when going to these tools. If you do use foam, all you
need is maybe a 6" circle in the center. I stacked up 1/4" pieces to adjust
for depth. But as I said, don't do that now. Sharp tools are also
critical.
Tom Wirt
Fabienne Cassman on thu 15 apr 99
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Thank you for sharing your darkest secrets on trimming plates =3B) I made
another large plate last night=3B I can't wait to trim it.
Ideas shared:
-sox filled with rice
-6=22 foam disks 1/4=22 each to adjust for depth
-6=22 bat covered with foam
-Sharp Kemper tools no. R-4 and R-1
-Folded towels
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Faye http://clay.justnet.com
Yes, I have learned from my mistakes...
I can reproduce them exactly.
Timothy Dean Malm on thu 15 apr 99
I used to throw many charger size platters. Trimming the wide bottoms
caused slumping of the bottom during the process. I overcame the problem
by purchasing some foam rubber sheets. I put layers of foam rubber into
the service area before placing a lightweight board onto the rim
thus allowing the batt,platter,foam rubber,and board to be inverted onto
the board while the foam rubber supports thewidth of the service area.This
makes the plate able to be trimmed without concern for slumping.
It works well for me. Cheers,Tim Malm in beautiful Seattle
Vince Pitelka on fri 16 apr 99
>Thank you for sharing your darkest secrets on trimming plates ;) I made
>another large plate last night; I can't wait to trim it.
Faye -
I have not followed all of these messages, so I do not know if anyone has
suggested a thrown chuck. This system has served me well for several
decades on plates and platters up to 24" in diameter. This is hardly worth
it for just one platter, but if you have a number of them to trim it is well
worth it. Take a large lump of clay, and make a very thick coil, at leat 4"
thick. Bend this into a doughnut, and roughly center it on the wheel. Wet
it down, and "throw" it to make it symmetrical and even, especially on the
top. If necessary, trim the top surface of the chuck to make it absolutely
smooth and centered. The outside diameter of the top of the chuck should be
slightly smaller than the "well" in your plates - the flat area in the
inside bottom of the plate. The center of the chuck should be open, so that
you can thump on the middle of your plates as you trim them and gauge the
bottom-thickness by the hollow sound.
Use a stainless steel rib to remove all moisture from the surface of the
chuck, so that it is once again like clay fresh from the bag. Carefully
invert your leather-hard plate or platter and set it on the chuck.
Obviously, the height of the chuck will have to be appropriate for the depth
of your plates or platters, so that you can easily set the plate or platter
in place with space beneath the rim for your fingers. You cannot slide the
plate around on the chuck - you will have to pick the plate up and move it a
few times to get it on center, but this is no problem at all once you get
used to it. You need nothing more to hold the plate or platter in place
while you trim it. The leather-hard plate will stay in place, but it also
will not stick at all when you remove it. I use this technique for plates
and platters with very complex slip-trailed and feather-combed decoration,
and the thrown chuck does not damage that decoration at all.
If you trim some plates, and need to wait a day or two to trim more, you
should initially form the chuck on a bat, so that you can lift the whole
thing off the wheel, wrap it up, and later put it back on the wheel when you
need it again. You cannot keep it useable indefinitely this way, because
the clay needs to be very soft for the chuck to behave OK, but you can keep
it useable for a week or so if you spray it down frequently. In a dry
climate, you will need to spray the surface after every few plates, letting
the moisture soak in, before you put another plate on the chuck.
Good luck -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
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Jim Brooks on fri 16 apr 99
I found that i can use a sponge.. the common household sponge..( or common
studio).. Place it under the plate/dish and let it support the center of the
piece.. If the sponge is wet,, then place a small piece of plastic on top..
to prevent the clay and sponge from coming in contact ....... simple..but
it works for me.......
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