Monona Rossol on fri 16 apr 99
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:50:10 EDT
From: Lee Jaffe
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Poisonous materials stuff, yet again
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Dear Lee Jaffe
I was so impressed with your fine answer about the Beatrice Woods' of this
world. People who point to a couple of aged potters as proof that there is
no problem are engaging in the George Burns theory of health. It may have
worked for old George, but 5 martinis and 12 cigars a day killed a lot of
other people much earlier than age 100.
I also wonder how many people Beatrice Woods has killed. I was listening to
a CBS interview with her a few years ago and she talked about buying
commercial lead lustre glazes and altering them with "a pinch of this and a
pinch of that." Then one of her fans told the interviewer that her water
bottles were especially wonderful and water from them actually tasted better
than ordinary water. I'll bet it did!
Small amounts of silver ion in particular taste kind of good. You could only
describe it as a "smooth" sort of taste. A number of lead compounds taste
kind of sweet. The Romans used them flavor wine which just about explains
Nero.
Monona
ACTS
181 Thompson St., # 23
New York NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062
Vince Pitelka on sat 17 apr 99
>I also wonder how many people Beatrice Woods has killed.
Sorry Monona, but this is in very bad taste.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Monona Rossol on tue 20 apr 99
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:28:29 EDT
From: Vince Pitelka
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Poisonous materials
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>I also wonder how many people Beatrice Woods has killed.
Sorry Monona, but this is in very bad taste.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
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I really meant to say exactly that. Some people may feel that artists we
admire for their creativity have no social responsibilities. But I don't.
And when they make errors that could harm either their customers or other
budding artists who emulate their practices, I think we must speak up.
This also holds for art schools. I'm sure the Appalachian Center for Crafts
has the required OSHA hazard communication programs and would not teach
students without proper safety training, ventilation, and safety equipment.
However schools that do not do this are also "killing" people. They are
setting students up for life time exposures to their materials simply because
they will graduate and continue to do the unsafe things they were taught.
There is no artist so revered, and no school so important, that I will not
criticize their safety practices. Ethically, I don't think the artist's
or the school's reputation should even be considered in this case. It is the
public, the individual teachers, and the students that count. These are the
people that make the artists famous and keep the schools running. We owe
them more.
Besides, the comment couldn't be in "bad taste" since I had already why the
water from Beatrice Woods' pots tasted good.
Monona Rossol
ACTS
181 Thompson St., # 23
New York NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062
Gayle Bair on thu 22 apr 99
Sorry Vince I must agree with Monona.
Another person on this thread wrote a possible scenario
laying the steps showing how a pot could go through many
hands and lose the toxic glaze warning.
My suggestion is to label the bottom of the pot functional or
non-functional. Yes it may be a hassle but I will sleep
easier knowing that anyone getting that pot will be informed
as to the function.
Of course this will force me into knowing my glazes..... hmmm...
not a half bad idea!
Gayle Bair reeling from the Columbine HS tragedy 25 miles away
from my home
gaylebair@earthlink.net
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From: Monona Rossol [SMTP:75054.2542@compuserve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 9:22 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Poisonous materials
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:28:29 EDT
From: Vince Pitelka
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Poisonous materials
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I also wonder how many people Beatrice Woods has killed.
Sorry Monona, but this is in very bad taste.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
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I really meant to say exactly that. Some people may feel that artists we
admire for their creativity have no social responsibilities. But I don't.
And when they make errors that could harm either their customers or other
budding artists who emulate their practices, I think we must speak up.
This also holds for art schools. I'm sure the Appalachian Center for Crafts
has the required OSHA hazard communication programs and would not teach
students without proper safety training, ventilation, and safety equipment.
However schools that do not do this are also "killing" people. They are
setting students up for life time exposures to their materials simply because
they will graduate and continue to do the unsafe things they were taught.
There is no artist so revered, and no school so important, that I will not
criticize their safety practices. Ethically, I don't think the artist's
or the school's reputation should even be considered in this case. It is the
public, the individual teachers, and the students that count. These are the
people that make the artists famous and keep the schools running. We owe
them more.
Besides, the comment couldn't be in "bad taste" since I had already why the
water from Beatrice Woods' pots tasted good.
Monona Rossol
ACTS
181 Thompson St., # 23
New York NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062
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