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new electric kiln setup: questions

updated mon 26 apr 99

 

Tena Payne on wed 21 apr 99


Just got my new Skutt! It's a big 'un, too.

Aculpla questions:

This is a long-standing question of mine... why do we put kilns on
stands? Why not just put fiber down (on a concrete floor) and place the
kiln directly on the floor? It sure would make loading it easier and
seems it would help in heat retention. Don't know about the fumes....
but since I don't have an envirovent, ???

Since it is a PK model, the book says to hardwire it to the box. I did
that, but does it matter to which pole the wires are connected in the
breaker? There's no distinction on the black wires.... I did notice on
some other breakers that one wire is red or has a red stripe, and the
other just black. But not on this Skutt pigtail. Yeah, I put the green
ground in place, plugged in the new 100 amp breaker, but got thrown
twice (the power, not me ;>). Curious thing.... the main lighting
breaker is throwing... not the kiln breaker. Could it be 'cause it's 60
amp and not 100? Would replacing the main lighting breaker fix it?
The two breakers are getting warm during the firing -- the kiln 100 amp
and the main lighting 60 amp.

No, I'm not an electrician, but can read a schematic and have rewired
my older kiln several times, a few lamps etc.... I just understand the
basics... don't stick a screwdriver in the box, make sure your
connections are very tight, and in general, just be careful.

Any thing I'm missing? I'm mostly concerned that I got the wires
reversed in the new breaker.

Thanx in advance!

Tena
in Birmingham, fooling around with things I oughtn't.;>
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Euclids on thu 22 apr 99

> This is a long-standing question of mine... why do we put kilns on
> stands? Why not just put fiber down (on a concrete floor) and place the
> kiln directly on the floor?
Hi Tena,
### The #1 reason is safety. To approve the kilns they must be on stands or
have legs.
Another thing that can happen, if a kiln is placed right on the floor, is
that the bottom of the kiln tends to be cooler than the top. The heat is
transferred from the bottom brick slab into the floor so that there is a
constant loss of heat from the bottom of the kiln.
> Since it is a PK model, the book says to hardwire it to the box. I did
> that, but does it matter to which pole the wires are connected in the
> breaker?
### I believe that the PK kilns do not require a neutral line, so to answer
your question, It shouldn`t matter ... just double check that the kiln is
getting the correct voltage.
> Curious thing.... the main lighting
> breaker is throwing... not the kiln breaker. Could it be 'cause it's 60
> amp and not 100? Would replacing the main lighting breaker fix it?
> The two breakers are getting warm during the firing -- the kiln 100 amp
> and the main lighting 60 amp.
### This could be considered as "warning bells" going off. The kiln should
have its own dedicated breaker (it`s hard to tell if this is the case). The
amperage rating of the kiln should not exceed 80% of the breaker rating.
The voltage supplied to the kiln should match the voltage on the
specifications plate on the kiln itself.
What model is the kiln?
Chris @
Euclids Kilns & Elements
1-800-296-5456
euclids.com
mail@euclids.com

Gail Phillips on thu 22 apr 99

Tena -

Generally, there are two different colored screws - one gold, one silver.
The black wire (hot) goes to the gold, the white (return) to the silver. I
am confused about which breaker is which, as you refer to it in your post.
If you would like to call me, I can get my National Electrical Code book
out, and we can go over what you have there.

- Gail Phillips
317-783-5963

Tena Payne wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> Just got my new Skutt! It's a big 'un, too.
>
> Aculpla questions:
>
> This is a long-standing question of mine... why do we put kilns on
> stands? Why not just put fiber down (on a concrete floor) and place the
> kiln directly on the floor? It sure would make loading it easier and
> seems it would help in heat retention. Don't know about the fumes....
> but since I don't have an envirovent, ???
>
> Since it is a PK model, the book says to hardwire it to the box. I did
> that, but does it matter to which pole the wires are connected in the
> breaker? There's no distinction on the black wires.... I did notice on
> some other breakers that one wire is red or has a red stripe, and the
> other just black. But not on this Skutt pigtail. Yeah, I put the green
> ground in place, plugged in the new 100 amp breaker, but got thrown
> twice (the power, not me ;>). Curious thing.... the main lighting
> breaker is throwing... not the kiln breaker. Could it be 'cause it's 60
> amp and not 100? Would replacing the main lighting breaker fix it?
> The two breakers are getting warm during the firing -- the kiln 100 amp
> and the main lighting 60 amp.
>
> No, I'm not an electrician, but can read a schematic and have rewired
> my older kiln several times, a few lamps etc.... I just understand the
> basics... don't stick a screwdriver in the box, make sure your
> connections are very tight, and in general, just be careful.
>
> Any thing I'm missing? I'm mostly concerned that I got the wires
> reversed in the new breaker.
>
> Thanx in advance!
>
> Tena
> in Birmingham, fooling around with things I oughtn't.;>
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

CNW on sun 25 apr 99

Tena- I would call Skutt and ask them your questions. I purchased an old
kiln from a school and had some questions about it. I called Skutt and a
lady there called back and was very helpful in answering all my electrical
questions. She was very friendly and chatted with me on their dime for quite
a while.

Celia- where we could use rain-but this drought is my fault as I planted
grass in the pastures and that causes a drought every time.