dave morrison on sat 22 may 99
on the fiber kiln i am building right now i am using sairset mortar as a
skim coat. it was suggested to me by a.p. green as it will fire to a nice
hard crust, but not soak into the fiber. i believe that the 3 gallon bucket
i bought was only about 20 bucks, it thins with water, and bonds well to the
fiber.
-----Original Message-----
From: John K Dellow
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: coating for fiber
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am at the moment re-building my kilns in soft brick & diatoms and
>intend to put a fibre door on them.
>
> I was given the following formula for a top coat to be sprayed or
>brushed on to the hot face fibre.
>
> My question is ,has anyone tried it & if so what were the results.
>
> Fibre paint.
> 220# china clay 2kg
> Zircon flower 1kg
> 1 teaspoon bentonite
>
>
> John Dellow "the flower pot man"
> ICQ : #2193986 {jacka}
> E-mail : dellowjk@kewl.com.au
> 25 Hugh Guinea Ct, Worongary Q 4213
> Ph:+61-7-55302875 Fax:+61-7-55253585
>Home Page http://www.welcome.to/jkdellow
>
John K Dellow on sat 22 may 99
I am at the moment re-building my kilns in soft brick & diatoms and
intend to put a fibre door on them.
I was given the following formula for a top coat to be sprayed or
brushed on to the hot face fibre.
My question is ,has anyone tried it & if so what were the results.
Fibre paint.
220# china clay 2kg
Zircon flower 1kg
1 teaspoon bentonite
John Dellow "the flower pot man"
ICQ : #2193986 {jacka}
E-mail : dellowjk@kewl.com.au
25 Hugh Guinea Ct, Worongary Q 4213
Ph:+61-7-55302875 Fax:+61-7-55253585
Home Page http://www.welcome.to/jkdellow
Anne Hunt on mon 24 may 99
Hokay, Dave...I've been following the fibre kiln thread w/ great interest.
Was mildly confused by the recipe in John's post, as it gave quantities for
only a few of the ingredients. Now you come up with Sairset as a "skim
coat"...
Does a skim coat stabilize the fibre more than anything else? If no,
what would be the relative merits of using ITC or a knock-off (as available
at Clay Art Center, Tacoma for 1/2 the price--you're welcome, Joe) versus
the Sairset? Hep me, hep me ...
By the bye, are you using formal plans? Are you using multiple wraps of
1" fibre, or 2"?How many burners? What's the cube? Etc, etc.
Thanks in advance for the info.
anne in sequim, where the deer just did a number on the russian sumac, fruit
tree blossoms, white lilies (they don't like the orange or red), and new
rosebush growth...grrrrr.
dave morrison on tue 25 may 99
the kiln i am building is a 4 foot cube, hard brick floor, and no door.
lol. what i have done is welded together an angle iron frame, and welded
expanded metal mesh inside that. i then have been using sairset to affix
ridgid fiber panels i purchased from ap green to the inside of this.
starting from the top, then the sides, (like sheet rocking). the panels are
rated to 2300, 2600 or 3000 degrees. they come in 1, 2 and three inch
thicknesses, but have the same rating regardless of thickness. my plan is
to do cone 6 oxidized soda firings. the panels are already high in alumina,
but i wanted to protect them from salt/soda damage and the rep at a.p. green
told me to apply a skim coat of the mortar i am using to bond the panels
together, thinning it with water to make it more trowelable. it hardens
like cement, and fires to an even harder coating. i dont know about the
other products you listed. but id rather go with a cement than a clay based
coating. we had a soft brick kiln at a place i worked at in mich, and they
used a kiln wash coating to protect it from salt. (i know, a soft brick
salt????) probably no more idiotic than a fiber one!! anyway, i had to
recoat it almost after each firing. and then there were the flakes. im
hoping to avoid this with the cement. to make a long story longer, no
door you ask?? well, like the lid on my other kiln, this one will be
counter balanced via a cable and pulley system, and the whole kiln will lift
off the base for loading and unloading. thus no door to sag, no extra
bricks to buy. if this works it'll be a miracle! im trying to make it very
inexpensive, and so far have come in at around $800.00. im using two
burners i made from an old cerm monthly issue, and forced air. it is
ofcourse an updraft. (less bricks once again). ive looked with no luck for
6 years for used affordable hard brick and found none here in the sticks.
this is my answer to a need for more kiln space. good luck to me! lol.
a.p. greens number in chicago is 708-474-5350 if you have more sair set
questions. thanks for the interest, ill hopfully be firing in mid june.
ill give an update then. cross anything you can! dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Anne Hunt
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: coating for fiber
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hokay, Dave...I've been following the fibre kiln thread w/ great interest.
>Was mildly confused by the recipe in John's post, as it gave quantities for
>only a few of the ingredients. Now you come up with Sairset as a "skim
>coat"...
> Does a skim coat stabilize the fibre more than anything else? If no,
>what would be the relative merits of using ITC or a knock-off (as available
>at Clay Art Center, Tacoma for 1/2 the price--you're welcome, Joe) versus
>the Sairset? Hep me, hep me ...
> By the bye, are you using formal plans? Are you using multiple wraps
of
>1" fibre, or 2"?How many burners? What's the cube? Etc, etc.
> Thanks in advance for the info.
>
>anne in sequim, where the deer just did a number on the russian sumac,
fruit
>tree blossoms, white lilies (they don't like the orange or red), and new
>rosebush growth...grrrrr.
>
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