James Bailey on tue 8 jun 99
Thank you Marcia Selsor for the compliments on our new wheel, the ST-50.
As a point of clarification to ClayArt subscribers, Bailey makes 5 models
of wheels. Marcia's wheel is designed to throw up to 50 lbs of clay, so
she is correct in saying that it is not designed to throw "huge pieces".
However, we do have 2 models specifically for "huge pieces" (up to 100
lbs) as well as 2 other models with a 50 lb rating for a full range of
options. Another point of clarification on the speed: our wheel can be
internally adjusted to rotate at higher RPM's, comparable to any brand.
We find most potters have no need for centering speeds above 200 RPM's,
so we set our ultimate speed to this amount. This has an advantage of
keeping the pedal from being "hyper sensitive" in the ratio between
actual travel distance of the pedal and the effect on acceleration of the
wheel head. In other words, we don't want the wheel to "take off" with a
minimal advancement of the pedal. This provides better control when
throwing at all speeds.
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A. Holt on sat 12 jun 99
I have been a subscriber to clayart for a year now and really enjoy it. I am=
in
the fortunate position of being able to afford a new electric wheel ( have a
homemade motorized kick wheel now) and saw a post about Bailey wheels a few
weeks back, then another a couple days ago from the Bailey company. I am =
looking
for a wheel suitable for a hobby potter and would like to know if anyone has
experience with the Bailey wheel, good or bad. Would be grateful for your
comments.
Ann, from sunny (but unseasonably cool) Kelowna,
British Columbia, Canada
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Sharon R Pemberton on mon 14 jun 99
After 30 years of throwing, teaching ceramics, running a studio, visiting
studios, and setting up studios in various learning institutions, I have come
to the conclusion that wheel pref comes from personal experience and, quite
often , first exposure.
My first wheel exp was on a Brent. Then I was gifted an off center, homemade,
motorized kick wheel with the message, "if you can learn to throw n this, you
can throw on anything!" In 1974 I saw an add in CM for a Creative Indusrties
wheel for $350. At that time a production run was 20 wheels and they were
being manuifactured in a garage. It was a good price, less that everything
else, but the only reason I bought it was because it had a TABLE, a very
large TABLE. I knew nothing about wheels, but it had a 1 1/4 hp motor and
that sounded good to me.
I figure it has facilitated in excess of 100 tons of clay, there were some
years I did not throw. I have lugged it to probably 25% of the schools in the
valley of the sun, taken it to resident art facilities for summers, had
hundreds of students use it and it has never been serviced and has never had
any type of maintenance. I do not know how the CI wheels are today, the new
ones that is. I also really really like the Pacifica. I also have a Soldner.
My list would go: Pacifica, CI, Soldner, Brent and Shimpos would not even
make my list. CI and Pacifica are the easiet to clean too. Brent splash pans
crack at the connection and Shimpos are a royal pain in the butt to clean.
Probably more than you wanted to know.......
Pax,
Pug
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on mon 14 jun 99
I just talked to 'Bailey' on the phone about their new Bailey Wheels.
Has anyone purchased one or used one? How does it compare to Brent C?
'They' say their 1/4 h.p. motor has the power to the wheel of the Brent
C's 1/2 hp, and I don't understand how that works. I need opinions!
Thanks!
Joanne in Tucson.....super windy.
eric nissen on fri 4 feb 00
Hey guys! I am thinking about adding a Bailey wheel to my studio. I
have always had Brent which I am very pleased with but having purchased
a Bailey slab roller last year, the quality is superb, it makes me want
to try one of their wheels. Does anyone have any experience with one
of their wheels to share with me before I make a final decision? I work
in the studio everyday and have a couple of students come in almost
every day, too. Thanks so much!
Sandra
Woodstock, GA where spring WILL be here soon!
Dannon Rhudy on sat 5 feb 00
At 05:43 PM 2/4/00 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
Does anyone have any experience with one
>of their wheels to share with me ........
I purchased a couple of Bailey's sometime last fall, for student/studio
use. So far, I really like them. They are silent unless the wheel
head is turning, and then they are nearly so. They are sturdy, stable,
and I've set one up on blocks to use standing. The pedal is smooth,
with even acceleration. So far, so good. Of course, early days yet,
but I'd buy another in a minute. I got the ST-200, and would recommend
the same. They're shipped UPS, and you do some small assembly after
they arrive - nothing difficult, and there are directions, step-by-step,
with drawings. They forgot one little item for one of the wheels, and
when I called, promptly sent it without any run-around.
Regards,
Dannon Rhudy
potter@koyote.com
Marcia Selsor on sat 5 feb 00
U have a Bailey wheel. As with all their equipment, it is well made and
has a good design. I have a 20 year old Bailey slab roller and extruder.
Marcia Selsor
eric nissen wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hey guys! I am thinking about adding a Bailey wheel to my studio. I
> have always had Brent which I am very pleased with but having purchased
> a Bailey slab roller last year, the quality is superb, it makes me want
> to try one of their wheels. Does anyone have any experience with one
> of their wheels to share with me before I make a final decision? I work
> in the studio everyday and have a couple of students come in almost
> every day, too. Thanks so much!
> Sandra
> Woodstock, GA where spring WILL be here soon!
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Mark & Pauline Donaldson-Drzazga on sun 6 feb 00
----- Original Message -----
From: eric nissen
To:
Sent: 04 February 2000 22:43
Subject: Bailey Wheels
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hey guys! I am thinking about adding a Bailey wheel to my studio. I
> have always had Brent which I am very pleased with but having purchased
> a Bailey slab roller last year, the quality is superb, it makes me want
> to try one of their wheels. Does anyone have any experience with one
> of their wheels to share with me before I make a final decision? I work
> in the studio everyday and have a couple of students come in almost
> every day, too. Thanks so much!
> Sandra
> Woodstock, GA where spring WILL be here soon!
> Dear Sandra,
I have just purchased an electric wheel made to my specifications (should
throw 100lbs weight of clay without slowing down, extremely slow low speed,
masses of torque so top speed is quite low too as you don't need speed) and
I would recomend to anyone in the world this guy. He makes a range of
wheels, but as in my case adapted a standard to make me a superb wheel,
email Sales@Pottersmate.co.uk and his name is Malcolm Headley-Saw, his tel.
is+44(0)1787237704. I have no financial involvement with Malcolm, just want
to pass on a fantastic engineer, he really knows his onions.
Happy potting Marek http://www.moley.uk.com
Antoinette Badenhorst on sun 6 feb 00
Sandra I have a Bailey. Make sure that you get the
upgraded one. I worked on a Brent several times. What
I do not like of Brent is the bucket around the wheel,
but it has a great and smooth speed. Bailey has a
bucket which suites me well. They phoned a while ago
for comments on the wheel.I found it well working,but
I prefer a little bit more speed. To clean under the
wheel head is a little difficult(not too much)The
distance between the wheel head and the bucket closest
to where I sit is also a little small(for cleaning
purposes). On the other hand if they increase the
distance one might sit too far away from the wheel
head. Maybe a longer shaft so that one can come in
easier under the wheel head will do the thing.Other
than that I really appreciate my wheel. You will want
to make sure of the speed. On the time that I talked
to them,they were working on the speed. I think you
will get good backup on their products. I get the
impression that they care.
The wheel is also not too heavy to move around(for
workshops)
Previously I used a standing wheel which was
mechanical driven,so it was difficult for me to
adjust,but I survived it!
O yes ask for them to include a smooth,not rippled
pipe for drainage,specially if you change clays and
want to keep the color pure,like porcelain!
Yesterday I demonstrated at a college on a Bailey.
This one has no switch for left to right handed
persons. Make sure that you address that if you need
that(when teaching).
Good luck.
Antoinette.
--- eric nissen wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> Hey guys! I am thinking about adding a Bailey wheel
> to my studio. I
> have always had Brent which I am very pleased with
> but having purchased
> a Bailey slab roller last year, the quality is
> superb, it makes me want
> to try one of their wheels. Does anyone have any
> experience with one
> of their wheels to share with me before I make a
> final decision? I work
> in the studio everyday and have a couple of students
> come in almost
> every day, too. Thanks so much!
> Sandra
> Woodstock, GA where spring WILL be here soon!
>
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Sue Cox wrote:
> Have any of you used a Bailey wheel? If so, what is your opinion. I am
> considering buying some for our new art school
I bought a Bailey last year and had it shipped to me in Dubai; it was a
gamble as I had never even seen one in person. I had read all about Brents,
Pacificas, CI's, etc on Clayart and used Brents and Shimpos at the Dubai Art
Center. I ordered a Bailey. The Bailey is stable, quiet, smooth and very
fast. (You might consider fitting speed governors on the foot pedals.) I
have my wheel in a bathroom that my family still insists upon using. The
design of the wheel helps keep things as clean as can be hoped and that
should be a plus in a communal situation where beginners' flying clay balls
and water bowls are a regular hazard, albiet an amusing one.
Best regards,
Carol
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Jimmy Greene on sun 11 feb 01
Greetings:
I'm new to pottery and the list.
I began learning to throw about 4 months ago & am getting along much better
than I expected... (After my first week of disasters & depression, that is).
My goal is to learn something creative to keep me occupied upon retirement
in 6-8 years.
Now I'm considering getting a wheel. Used ones are few & far between, so I'm
saving up my pennies for a new wheel. I've been using a Creative, Model JR,
& feel that it is straining under centering of 10 lbs or so, & the pedal
isn't really as smooth as I'd like.
Bailey wheels seem to be reasonably priced & have many nice features, but I
know of nobody who has any experience on one.
Is there anybody out there that can help me on this?
Thanks much,
Jimmy
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Dannon Rhudy on mon 12 feb 01
>
>Now I'm considering getting a wheel.
>......Bailey wheels seem to be reasonably priced & have many nice features,
>...Is there anybody out there that can help me on this?......
A year or so ago I bought a couple of Bailey wheels for the ceramics studio
for student use. So far, no problems of any kind. The pedal is extremely
smooth, the wheels are dead quiet when on and make a bare whisper
in use. I like them myself, and intend to get a couple more. It made a
difference to the studio because the price is less by a couple hundred or
so from similar other brands. Don't get the smallest size motor - that is
just advice, mind you. The price difference is negligible - you'll keep
your wheel a long time, never know what you might ask it to do.
Both of these get a lot of use, since it is a student situation. They
arrive in two pieces and have to be put together, but it is merely a matter
of attaching a belt and some bolts (they're shipped UPS, and two pieces
meet the weight requirement). As I said, so far no problems.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Chomsky501@AOL.COM on fri 23 feb 01
Hi! I hope this isn't too late!
I recently bought a new Bailey wheel, and for my money it sucks big-time!
Yes, the pedal is continuous and smooth, and the adjustable legs are
good...after that it's all downhill, for the following reasons:
1. Hard to clean - fixed splashpan means digging right in there...in the
"tight spot" forward of the wheel, forget it! Short of sluicing it, there's
no way. ....bad news if you switch back and forth between stoneware and
porcelain.
2. If you ever use large bats, or need more space for trimming, you will
have to buy the "head extender". A nuisance factor, at best.
3. After only a month I noticed corrosion on the wheel head. It's rough,
pitted, and getting worse. repeated steel wool burnishings help little. It
looks the same as any other wheelhead - but it isn't.
4. The "hole to nowhere" through the bottom with drain tube is a puzzle:
Unless you pour water over your clay, you're not likely to accumulate enough
to drain through. Mine justs points at the floor...it's unnecessary. So is
the little "gate" on the side to facilitate removal of trimmings, cleaning,
etc. ...NOTHING can facilitate cleaning.
5. The on / off switch is located in a not-very-visible spot. I am
forever inadvertantly leaving it on...sometimes for days at a time. But
then, that's probably just me!
Kvetch, Kvetch, Kvetch...If you still want one, I'll sell you mine real
cheap, when I get back to Toronto. (June). However it doesn't come with a
manual....Tuckers promised to send me one, but never did. ( I still don't
know how to remove the wheelhead, if I ever have to!!!)
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the Florida sunshine, and my spring semester at
Florida Atlantic University....an excellent ceramic arts choice!
cheers,
Garry Dick
Andie Carpenter on sat 24 feb 01
I usually try to avoid these types of conversations, but I have to defend Bailey
here. I have a Bailey wheel, bought it from them new, and love it. It's not
perfect, but pretty close. And the people at Bailey can't be beat. The few problems
I've had with my wheel they've jumped to correct, and are open to ideas about
improving their line.
So far as Garry's specific problems:
1. Hard to clean - fixed splash pan means digging right in there...in the
"tight spot" forward of the wheel, forget it! Short of sluicing it, there's
no way. ....bad news if you switch back and forth between stoneware and
porcelain. Well, yes. Until you buy some big, smooshy industrial sponges,
which just push everything down. I actually find my cleanup is easier with the
Bailey than the Creative Industries I learned on.
2. If you ever use large bats, or need more space for trimming, you will have
to buy the "head extender". A nuisance factor, at best. This is true.
You do have to buy the extender, but by that same token, I find my extender is
useful for a variety of things - trimming minis up close, large bats, even for
throwing on larger bats, and it brings things up to a nice height for me.
After only a month I noticed corrosion on the wheel head. It's rough,
pitted, and getting worse. repeated steel wool burnishings help little. It looks
the same as any other wheel head - but it isn't. I've had my wheel for
two years, and haven't noticed this at all. I would call Bailey about this - my
wheel has an awesome complete warranty, if yours is covered, I'd bet they'd LOVE to
replace your wheel head.
4. The "hole to nowhere" through the bottom with drain tube is a puzzle:
Unless you pour water over your clay, you're not likely to accumulate enough to
drain through. Mine justs points at the floor...it's unnecessary. So is the
little "gate" on the side to facilitate removal of trimmings, cleaning, etc.
....NOTHING can facilitate cleaning. I love the drain system - I have a
piece of hose attached on the bottom, leading into my slurry bucket, and although I
do have to push the slurry into the hole with a sponge, then it's clean and empty
and draining wherever I want it to go. I didn't know there was another way to do
this. The Creative Industries wheel I learned on had the same hole, only it was
placed so that the bucket under was always getting kicked over.
So far as not having a manual, again, call Bailey. I can't stress enough how
wonderful they are over there, and what a difference it makes. I love having a
reason to call them - and talking to them, listening to them brainstorm ways to
help me out, makes my whole week.
Don't want to come across like I'm dissing Garry, since it sounds like he DID end
up with a crappy wheel head, and because he's totally entitled to his opinion. Just
wanted to offer the flip side of the coin.
: ) Andie Carpenter
Handful of Earth Pottery
www.andie.net
Marcia Selsor on sun 25 feb 01
Dear Garry, Andie, and Linda,
I got my Bailey Wheel almost 2 years ago because I worried that my
little dog would get caught in the fly wheel of my beloved Stuart Thomas
wheel-a fine wheel. My dog follows me everywhere and has made surprise
leaps into my lap when I am throwing.
I love my Bailey. I got the extended legs model so I could reduce back
problems. I got the wheel head adjustment so I could use large bats.
This is really clever and there are other wheels where large bats only
fit if you remove the splash pans- Brents, Lockerbies, Stuart Thomas and
Shimpos for example. My experience with those brands came from my
classroom at MSU-B.
My drain hole came with the hose and I have it drain into a buckets of
the variety of porcelain, stoneware and terra cotta. I collect all that
and recycle. I throw rather dry so it is usually crumbs from trimming.I
had to assemble mine because it was shipped to Montana. Perhaps Garry
got his already assembled and it was missing the hose.
I think it cleans up very easily with a sponge. I also have other
products by Bailay and think they are quality items and very well
designed. My Bailey slab roller and extruder are at least 22 years old
and working just fine. I always say hello at NCECA and see what is new
at their booth. Nice people. Someday I'd love to visit their place in
upstate NY.
Marcia in Montana
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Jimmy Greene on thu 1 mar 01
I want to thank all of you who responded with your input on Bailey Wheels.
As soon as I finish paying off the plumber, It's off to Bailey-ville.
I just purchased one of their Bailey banding wheels, & it came yesterday.
Mechanically it was GREAT, however the finish was terrible; pitted
turntable, runs all over vertical surfaces & a huge chip out of the base. (A
concern since the wheel is cast iron, & subject to corrosion on exposed
surfaces).
I called them this morning & received nothing but stellar service! They
apologized for the slip in their quality control & assured me that since the
wheels are manufactured on site, they receive much better quality control.
I'm not really concerned.
They're sending me a new banding wheel & arranged fro a no-cost pick up by
UPS of the old one; all I have to do is leave it on my front porch.
In the meantime, I get to wait to see how my glaze tests from Georgies come
out so I can use them with the new banding wheel. FUN!!!
Marcia Selsor on tue 19 jun 01
Hi Aerwyne and Lori,
Just yesterday I turned my Bailey over to work on the slipping fly
wheel.-second time in three years. The wheel head fell off. It hadn't
been slipping. I got it all back together but the allen wrench set is
too small for the wheel head set screw. I tightened it with my fingers
and will remember to bring a bigger allen wrench to the studio.
I will give bailey a call. This seems to be a big problem if all these
wheels are having the same symptoms.
Marcia Selsor.
Lorraine Pierce wrote:
>
> Hi Aerwyne...Was glad to see your Bailey wheel posting. I have had mine for
> several months now and have had the same problem you have. I also purchased
> mine unassembled,put it together, then early on had to take it apart
> because the set screw that holds the wheel head to the drive shaft slipped.
> ( Have they used a softer metal than they should have? I have noticed the
> wheel head is not as hard an aluminum as my Shimpo.) I called Bailey and
> was told what to do and cautioned that tightening the screw against the
> round part of the shaft (where it had slipped to) could do damage. I
> carefully and forcefully tightened it to the flat side of the shaft as
> instructed. It has again slipped , I have removed the set screw, and I
> cannot remove the wheel head from the shaft no matter how I pull. I hesitate
> to pry it off with a tool. I had first fixed the problem by disassembing
> from the top, down, but of course cannot now do that since I cannot remove
> the head. When you took it apart by turning it upside down, could you get
> the wheel head off before turning it over? I assume mine is jammed on since
> the set screw is out and I can use the wheel, tho there is a vibration which
> tells me the belts may be out of line. I loved the foot pedal, control etc,
> and the spash pan,tho cleaning is difficult in the tight space as you say.
> I have an old workhorse of a Skutt wheel, and a Shimpo I have had no
> problems with. I had thought the Bailey to be an answer to a back
> problem...and for a while it was! (Tho back is fine now.)
>
> One more comment...the instructions stated that the wheel head did not need
> to be removed ever again after the first assembly...or words to that effect.
> I would like to hear from owners who bought the factory assembled units.
> Dannon, are you still away? Have you people had problems? I will be off on
> the 25th of this month thru the 13th of July...hope someone answers by the
> weekend. Lori Pierce in New Port Richey, Fl.
>
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Aerwyne@AOL.COM on tue 19 jun 01
Just a note about Bailey wheels. I bought my first wheel in August of last
year. Previousy, I had been using brents, shimpos or pacificas at school.
My teacher swore by her Brent B. She bought it used 20 years ago, and it is
still going strong. A group of students from my university were at NCECA
2000, where we saw and fell in love with the design ideas incorporated in the
Bailey design.(trimming disposal, drainage hole, and no awkward splash pan to
mess with) Three of us ended up buying Baileys for our 1st wheels. Once
they were delivered and we got them put together, we thought we would be in
business...wrong! We are having problems with the screw which holds the
wheelhead and shaft inside the drive mechanism becoming loose, repeatedly.
This necessitates turning the wheel upside down, and taking the panel off the
bottom of the wheel to fix the problem. Rather time consuming when in
production mode. Plus, each time that screw loosens there is a little more
wear on the shaft face, which eventually will wear a groove in the shaft.
Other considerations: the table of the wheel is not angled so that the
slip/water actually flows toward the drain hole. A small thing, but why have
it if it doesn't work? Second, the rim of the table is just high enough
that you have to use a wheelhead extension to use a large bat...anything over
15-16 inches will not fit in the space provided. And finally, there is not
enough space between the wheelhead and the wall at teh back of the wheel,
making it very difficult to clean back there. If you change claybodies
often, or are a clean freak*ha* or have very large hands...this is a pain.
All in all, I am not so sure I would buy this wheel again, even though I like
the trimming door to push trims into a reclaim bucket, and the price was
really good. I just hate that the wheel is less than a year old, and I've had
to tighten that screw numerous times already. What lies ahead?
Robert and Mary Ann Sparacin on tue 19 jun 01
Dear Aerwyne,
I have not seen how this wheel head is actually set up, but I am wondering if
the tightening screw is a set screw, which takes an allen key to tighten. If so, a
short set screw can be used to lock the wheel head in, and another set screw can
then be turned into the hole and tightened on the top of the first screw, thus
locking it in position. Also, a dimple can be drilled into the shaft for the set
screw to turn into. Also, another set screw hole, 120 degrees form the first can be
installed. This hole can be for a second dimple and set screw, or could go
straight through, and a roll pin, or similar pin with a locking nut, be installed.
Bailey should be willing to make these changes for you, or if not, a local machine
shop could do it if you do not have the needed tools. You might talk to them and
see what they say.
RJS
Aerwyne@AOL.COM wrote:
> Just a note about Bailey wheels. I bought my first wheel in August of last
> year. Previousy, I had been using brents, shimpos or pacificas at school.
> My teacher swore by her Brent B. She bought it used 20 years ago, and it is
> still going strong. A group of students from my university were at NCECA
> 2000, where we saw and fell in love with the design ideas incorporated in the
> Bailey design.(trimming disposal, drainage hole, and no awkward splash pan to
> mess with) Three of us ended up buying Baileys for our 1st wheels. Once
> they were delivered and we got them put together, we thought we would be in
> business...wrong! We are having problems with the screw which holds the
> wheelhead and shaft inside the drive mechanism becoming loose, repeatedly.
> This necessitates turning the wheel upside down, and taking the panel off the
> bottom of the wheel to fix the problem. Rather time consuming when in
> production mode. Plus, each time that screw loosens there is a little more
> wear on the shaft face, which eventually will wear a groove in the shaft.
> Other considerations: the table of the wheel is not angled so that the
> slip/water actually flows toward the drain hole. A small thing, but why have
> it if it doesn't work? Second, the rim of the table is just high enough
> that you have to use a wheelhead extension to use a large bat...anything over
> 15-16 inches will not fit in the space provided. And finally, there is not
> enough space between the wheelhead and the wall at teh back of the wheel,
> making it very difficult to clean back there. If you change claybodies
> often, or are a clean freak*ha* or have very large hands...this is a pain.
> All in all, I am not so sure I would buy this wheel again, even though I like
> the trimming door to push trims into a reclaim bucket, and the price was
> really good. I just hate that the wheel is less than a year old, and I've had
> to tighten that screw numerous times already. What lies ahead?
>
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Lorraine Pierce on tue 19 jun 01
Hi Aerwyne...Was glad to see your Bailey wheel posting. I have had mine for
several months now and have had the same problem you have. I also purchased
mine unassembled,put it together, then early on had to take it apart
because the set screw that holds the wheel head to the drive shaft slipped.
( Have they used a softer metal than they should have? I have noticed the
wheel head is not as hard an aluminum as my Shimpo.) I called Bailey and
was told what to do and cautioned that tightening the screw against the
round part of the shaft (where it had slipped to) could do damage. I
carefully and forcefully tightened it to the flat side of the shaft as
instructed. It has again slipped , I have removed the set screw, and I
cannot remove the wheel head from the shaft no matter how I pull. I hesitate
to pry it off with a tool. I had first fixed the problem by disassembing
from the top, down, but of course cannot now do that since I cannot remove
the head. When you took it apart by turning it upside down, could you get
the wheel head off before turning it over? I assume mine is jammed on since
the set screw is out and I can use the wheel, tho there is a vibration which
tells me the belts may be out of line. I loved the foot pedal, control etc,
and the spash pan,tho cleaning is difficult in the tight space as you say.
I have an old workhorse of a Skutt wheel, and a Shimpo I have had no
problems with. I had thought the Bailey to be an answer to a back
problem...and for a while it was! (Tho back is fine now.)
One more comment...the instructions stated that the wheel head did not need
to be removed ever again after the first assembly...or words to that effect.
I would like to hear from owners who bought the factory assembled units.
Dannon, are you still away? Have you people had problems? I will be off on
the 25th of this month thru the 13th of July...hope someone answers by the
weekend. Lori Pierce in New Port Richey, Fl.
Lorraine Pierce on tue 19 jun 01
Hi Aerwyne...I have just talked with both Mike and Jim Bailey about my
problem with my wheel and they are very caring and responsive. I am to place
my wheel on a workbench, remove the pan protecting the flywheel, and make
the necessary adjustments. There was apparently an early flywheel problem
that can be taken care of quite simply. Have you replaced any parts or
setscrews? They really want things to be right, and think they have
solutions to early problems. Call them if you haven't done so already.
I am not trying to make light of this, but now that you are away from
school, you will find yourself confronted with many many technical problems
never mentioned in school or imagined by you. ( Actually working on the
wheel sometimes seems to take the least of ones time!) I'll keep you
posted, and its OK to post me off line. Lori Pierce in New Port Richey, Fl.
Steve Mills on wed 20 jun 01
If I sold a wheel that behaved like that my Customers would be hammering
on the door demanding I do something about it. Have you been in touch
with the Vendor/Baileys? That's why we Suppliers have guarantees so that
problems can be sorted out, and the new owner kept happy. After all
nothing travels as fast as bad news!
Steve Mills
BPS
Bath
UK
In message , Aerwyne@AOL.COM writes
>Just a note about Bailey wheels. I bought my first wheel in August of last
>year. Previousy, I had been using brents, shimpos or pacificas at school.
>My teacher swore by her Brent B. She bought it used 20 years ago, and it is
>still going strong. A group of students from my university were at NCECA
>2000, where we saw and fell in love with the design ideas incorporated in the
>Bailey design.(trimming disposal, drainage hole, and no awkward splash pan to
>mess with) Three of us ended up buying Baileys for our 1st wheels. Once
>they were delivered and we got them put together, we thought we would be in
>business...wrong! We are having problems with the screw which holds the
>wheelhead and shaft inside the drive mechanism becoming loose, repeatedly.
>This necessitates turning the wheel upside down, and taking the panel off the
>bottom of the wheel to fix the problem. Rather time consuming when in
>production mode. Plus, each time that screw loosens there is a little more
>wear on the shaft face, which eventually will wear a groove in the shaft.
>Other considerations: the table of the wheel is not angled so that the
>slip/water actually flows toward the drain hole. A small thing, but why have
>it if it doesn't work? Second, the rim of the table is just high enough
>that you have to use a wheelhead extension to use a large bat...anything over
>15-16 inches will not fit in the space provided. And finally, there is not
>enough space between the wheelhead and the wall at teh back of the wheel,
>making it very difficult to clean back there. If you change claybodies
>often, or are a clean freak*ha* or have very large hands...this is a pain.
>All in all, I am not so sure I would buy this wheel again, even though I like
>the trimming door to push trims into a reclaim bucket, and the price was
>really good. I just hate that the wheel is less than a year old, and I've had
>to tighten that screw numerous times already. What lies ahead?
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Steve Mills
Bath
UK
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