DONALD G. GOLDSOBEL on sat 12 jun 99
I am building a fountain and am contemplating an antique copper pipe for
the return water. I want to either antique a piece of copper tubing or
glaze an extruded tube witha copper patina. Any help? Advice from the
experienced will be appreciated
TIA
Donald in the San Fernando Valley, where I am waiting to getter plants for
the fountain\pond
Pam Duncan on mon 14 jun 99
Donald,
You can turn that copper pipe almost any color you want by going to a
stained glass supply store and purchasing their oxidation agents. It is
really easy to do. If you don't have a local store there are several on the
www that do mail order. Pam in rainy WI.......still hanging on to all that
stained-glass stuff from my past life
-----Original Message-----
From: DONALD G. GOLDSOBEL
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: copper patina
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am building a fountain and am contemplating an antique copper pipe for
the return water. I want to either antique a piece of copper tubing or
glaze an extruded tube witha copper patina. Any help? Advice from the
experienced will be appreciated
TIA
Donald in the San Fernando Valley, where I am waiting to getter plants for
the fountain\pond
F PARKER on mon 14 jun 99
There is a book whose exact title/author I have forgotten, but it's
something like "The Coloring and Patination of Metals" or maybe "The
Patination and Coloring of Metals." It provides great detail on formulas,
procedures, etc. for non-ferrous patination. I'm sure an Amazon.com search
will turn up the exact title. Unfortunately, it's a little pricy at $50
plus.
Also, go to http://members.aol.com/crocusdes/ and look under "Techniques."
If you dig deeply enough there you'll probably find an answer.
Fred Parker
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am building a fountain and am contemplating an antique copper pipe for
> the return water. I want to either antique a piece of copper tubing or
> glaze an extruded tube witha copper patina. Any help? Advice from the
> experienced will be appreciated
Faye Clarke on tue 15 jun 99
This may sound rather crude but I know one of the ways to antique copper is
to Literally Pee on it... the urine is an acid -- many copper roofs are
given a patina early this way... I guess thats one way for workers not
having to come down... My other thought is that the copper pipe would be
better than the clay-- more water proof.. Good luck...Let us know how you
make out!! Faye
This further note is for everyone on ClayArt and Just a suggestion that if
we all give a place where we are from-- particularly those giving info on
workshops or selling things it sure would be easier....Enjoy the sharing
very much...
Weather here on Vancouver Island, Canada has finally warmed up...Summer--YES!!
At 09:08 AM 6/12/99 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am building a fountain and am contemplating an antique copper pipe for
>the return water. I want to either antique a piece of copper tubing or
>glaze an extruded tube witha copper patina. Any help? Advice from the
>experienced will be appreciated
>
> TIA
>
>Donald in the San Fernando Valley, where I am waiting to getter plants for
>the fountain\pond
>
>
Mike Gordon on wed 16 jun 99
Hi,
Try using some liver of sulphur, found at jewelery shops. Heat the pipe
and test the solution on it. Its mixed with water... try several
strengths. Mike
dave morrison on wed 16 jun 99
there is also a compound you cna buy that instantly turns copper green.
cant recall what it is, only that i used it when doing some stained glass
repairs. look into stained glass tools and equipment and you should find
it.
dave.
from bemidji minnesota!
were the mosquitos are as thick
as youre ever going to see.
-----Original Message-----
From: Faye Clarke
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: copper patina
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This may sound rather crude but I know one of the ways to antique copper is
to Literally Pee on it... the urine is an acid -- many copper roofs are
given a patina early this way... I guess thats one way for workers not
having to come down... My other thought is that the copper pipe would be
better than the clay-- more water proof.. Good luck...Let us know how you
make out!! Faye
This further note is for everyone on ClayArt and Just a suggestion that if
we all give a place where we are from-- particularly those giving info on
workshops or selling things it sure would be easier....Enjoy the sharing
very much...
Weather here on Vancouver Island, Canada has finally warmed
up...Summer--YES!!
At 09:08 AM 6/12/99 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am building a fountain and am contemplating an antique copper pipe for
>the return water. I want to either antique a piece of copper tubing or
>glaze an extruded tube witha copper patina. Any help? Advice from the
>experienced will be appreciated
>
> TIA
>
>Donald in the San Fernando Valley, where I am waiting to getter plants for
>the fountain\pond
>
>
Jeff Lawrence on wed 16 jun 99
Donald in the San Fernando valley was wondering about copper patinas...
Hello Donald,
In my business, a lot of work goes into making ceramics look like weathered
metal. My big competitors do it with (high organic volatile) paints
containing a lot of flakes of copper metall, which they then dip into nasty
acid baths for the color, then spray with another witches brew of clear
coat. Personally, I like my internal organs current harmony, so I've
adopted the approach of splatter-coating layers of green and turquoise onto
a black base. If your base coat is thick, the splatters melt right in and
you can get a very interesting and studiedly insouciant effect. Use your
spray gun with less air for bigger globules.
I've been selling this surface for several years with success; only problem
is you can always tell who did a particular piece -- hard to duplicate
somebody else's hand.
Jeff
P.S. Stay with mats -- glossy looks really corny.
Jeff Lawrence Sun Dagger Design
jml@sundagger.com Rt. 3 Box 220
www.sundagger.com Espanola, NM 87532
vox 505-753-5913 fax 505-753-8074
Gary Holt on wed 16 jun 99
Donald, Bryant Laboratory Inc. in Berkeley, CA., has information on several
combinations of compounds for different patina finishes. They sell the chemical
individually and, I believe, already made up into mixes for each patina color.
can't give you the name of a certain person to ask for, but there are quite a fe
metal sculptors around this area who use Bryant's mixes, so I think just about
anyone who handles the phones should be familiar with what you need. Bryant
Laboratory, Inc.
1101 5th Street
Berkeley, CA.
94710 (510) 526-3141 Good
luck. Gary Holt
Berkeley, CA
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> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >I am building a fountain and am contemplating an antique copper pipe for
> >the return water. I want to either antique a piece of copper tubing or
> >glaze an extruded tube witha copper patina. Any help? Advice from the
> >experienced will be appreciated
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >Donald in the San Fernando Valley, where I am waiting to getter plants for
> >the fountain\pond
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