Katie Cordrey on wed 23 jun 99
Ok, go easy...
I have a friend who would like me to use the ashes of a loved one in a
vessel and glaze. I'm curious to know if anyone has done such a project and
what you may have learned from it.
I've read the archives on this. Robust ethical discussion, and there was a
little technical information and opinion, but I didn't find much in the way
of actual experience or use. Might just be me not knowing how to look.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who can help with this.
Thanks!
Katie Cordrey
http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/columbiagorgeartists/
L.P. Skeen on thu 24 jun 99
Katie Cordrey wrote:
> I've read the archives on this. Robust ethical discussion, and there was a
> little technical information and opinion, but I didn't find much in the way
> of actual experience or use. Might just be me not knowing how to look.
Katie,
As I said in private email to you, I have found animal ash to be approximately
= to bone ash that is an ingredient in many glaze recipes. I went to the
animal crematorium and asked for a box o' bones. Then I ran the bones through
a sieve, and from a bag o' bones of less than 1sqft, I ended up with a Gatorade
jar full of bone ash. Dinna have to re-calcine any at all.
Bone ash in an iron bearing reduction glaze can, if you hold your mouth just
right, produce iridescence. (See _Clay and Glazes for the Potter_ by Dan
Rhodes). In an oxidation glaze, I believe if I remember right it's supposed to
be an opacifier but i won't swear on that one. In any case, I tested glazes
containing bone ash with both commercially prepared and my "homemade" bone
ash. There's little or no difference between 'em.
Good luck!
--
Lisa Skeen ICQ# 15554910
Living Tree Handmade Pottery & Soaps, Summerfield, NC
****A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.****
~*~* Religions should get out of politics, or be taxed. *~*~
James Blossom on thu 24 jun 99
Hi Katie.
Just a pointer to the excellent Nat. Geo. piece this month
on color. Seems artists in the "midevil" times used a color
called 'mummy' .... you guessed it, made by grinding up
Egyptian mummies. Yeech.
Mike Blossom
Sleeping Dog Designs
Albuturky, N.M., USA
('member when a town in Japan was supposed to
change its name to Usa in order to avoid anti -
made -in -the- USA feelings? ) :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Cordrey
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:48 AM
Subject: Human Ash
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Ok, go easy...
>
>I have a friend who would like me to use the ashes of a loved one in a
>vessel and glaze. I'm curious to know if anyone has done such a project and
>what you may have learned from it.
>
>I've read the archives on this. Robust ethical discussion, and there was a
>little technical information and opinion, but I didn't find much in the way
>of actual experience or use. Might just be me not knowing how to look.
>
>I'd really like to hear from anyone who can help with this.
>
>Thanks!
>Katie Cordrey
>http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/columbiagorgeartists/
K. Hurt on thu 24 jun 99
I had a friend who saw a lovely pottery jar and took it home thinking that
her or her husband's ashes might some day go in it. His are in it. I guess
I can see someone doing that, but have difficulty thinking of using human
ashes IN the clay or glazes. From a purely technical standpoint, I would
think it would work.
Karin Hurt
----------
> From: Katie Cordrey
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Human Ash
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:47 AM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Ok, go easy...
>
> I have a friend who would like me to use the ashes of a loved one in a
> vessel and glaze. I'm curious to know if anyone has done such a project
and
> what you may have learned from it.
>
> I've read the archives on this. Robust ethical discussion, and there was
a
> little technical information and opinion, but I didn't find much in the
way
> of actual experience or use. Might just be me not knowing how to look.
>
> I'd really like to hear from anyone who can help with this.
>
> Thanks!
> Katie Cordrey
> http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/columbiagorgeartists/
Katie Cordrey on fri 25 jun 99
Karin
This type of decision is highly personal. I would never encourage someone
who had reservations about it to do such a thing. I understand your point of
view.
From my perspective, our bodies are comprised of the same elements that make
stardust. In life, we use them as a vessel for our soul. When our soul has
no further need for them, they become enchanted stardust in a sense because
they were once inhabited by the magic of the human spirit.
I would love to know my magical ashes had been mixed with the thing that
gives me so much joy in life and put to some use. The unused portion I'd
like tilled into my flower garden. I find it far more appealing than the
idea of underground burial or loose ashes in a jar. Could be that's the
utilitarian in me. For some of us, I think it is appropriate. But not for
you.
Katie
-----Original Message-----
From: K. Hurt [mailto:nirak@redrivernet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 10:33 PM
To: katales@geocities.com; CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Human Ash
I had a friend who saw a lovely pottery jar and took it home thinking that
her or her husband's ashes might some day go in it. His are in it. I guess
I can see someone doing that, but have difficulty thinking of using human
ashes IN the clay or glazes. From a purely technical standpoint, I would
think it would work.
Karin Hurt
----------
> From: Katie Cordrey
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Human Ash
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:47 AM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Ok, go easy...
>
> I have a friend who would like me to use the ashes of a loved one in a
> vessel and glaze. I'm curious to know if anyone has done such a project
and
> what you may have learned from it.
>
> I've read the archives on this. Robust ethical discussion, and there was
a
> little technical information and opinion, but I didn't find much in the
way
> of actual experience or use. Might just be me not knowing how to look.
>
> I'd really like to hear from anyone who can help with this.
>
> Thanks!
> Katie Cordrey
> http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/columbiagorgeartists/
Pamala Browne on fri 25 jun 99
My mom wanted to be cremated and have me make her ashes into a glaze on
"her" pot. Alas when the time came my little sister refused to have her
"burned" and we couldn't do it.I had thought that I would just make an ash
glaze with her ashes as a substitution-- a test would've been done but there
isn't alot to work with and to waste something that precious would've been
hard.Good luck and I will keep my ears open for recipe ideas.Right now I'm
in a place of fringe dwellers and it's possible someone has done it here.
pamalab
----- Original Message -----
From: K. Hurt
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: Human Ash
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I had a friend who saw a lovely pottery jar and took it home thinking that
> her or her husband's ashes might some day go in it. His are in it. I guess
> I can see someone doing that, but have difficulty thinking of using human
> ashes IN the clay or glazes. From a purely technical standpoint, I would
> think it would work.
> Karin Hurt
>
> ----------
> > From: Katie Cordrey
> > To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> > Subject: Human Ash
> > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:47 AM
> >
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Ok, go easy...
> >
> > I have a friend who would like me to use the ashes of a loved one in a
> > vessel and glaze. I'm curious to know if anyone has done such a project
> and
> > what you may have learned from it.
> >
> > I've read the archives on this. Robust ethical discussion, and there was
> a
> > little technical information and opinion, but I didn't find much in the
> way
> > of actual experience or use. Might just be me not knowing how to look.
> >
> > I'd really like to hear from anyone who can help with this.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Katie Cordrey
> > http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/columbiagorgeartists/
>
Jeff Brett on wed 30 jun 99
I have an interesting story to relate on the subject of human ash in Ceramics.
I was working as a lab tech in a college Fine Arts department a number of
years ago. We had a student whose brother had recently died, tragically and
unfortunately at a very young age. In her studies the student was
particularly drawn to Ceramics and decided to use his ashes in a glaze. We
started by taking a small amount of ash and testing it to see when it
fluxed. It behaved much like wood ash. She then developed a wonderful glaze
from it. She made a set of functional pots, glazed them with the ash glaze
and gave the pieces as gifts to her family members. It was one of the most
remarkable, heartwarming projects i've ever assisted a student with and I
will never forget it.
...Jeff
____________________________________
Jeff Brett
Lab Assistant - Fine Arts, North Island College
2300 Ryan Road, Courtenay, BC, Canada, V9N 8N6
Phone: (250)334-5055
Fax: (250)334-5018
E-mail: brett@nic.bc.ca
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Hank Murrow on wed 11 aug 99
Good Evening Group: Can anyone direct me to discussion in the archives
concerning the use of human ash in formulating glaze? Thanks, Hank in Eugene
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