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a good used wheel is hard to find!

updated sat 17 jul 99

 

RoseHawke on wed 14 jul 99

I was wondering, as I came up from the studio, why the deuce is a used wheel so
hard to find??? Do potters keep them forever, and ever, amen; will them to their
descendants, "Bless you and use this wheel as I did," use them 'til they fall
apart and are good for nothing but the trash and the scrap metal man or what?

I love the clay, and I'm handbuilding/sculpting but I've always been an
immediate kind of person and I dearly want a wheel to "fill in the time" and
produce something in a fraction of an hour instead of many hours or sometimes
days. Also to help fill the kiln. It takes such a long time for me to get enough
for a kiln load. But anything over about a couple of hundred bucks is out of
the question right now. I can probably build a kickwheel (continental style, the
simplest) but as I would also be "learning by doing" I'm not sure if I need the
added problem of trying to control a wheel while I teach myself to throw.

One haunts the classified. And searches the internet ("6 wheels for sale! School
closing!" "Based in New York!" ) And tries the suggested routes
("No, we don't have nuthin' like that." "No, sorry, we've never taught throwing
classes so we don't have any wheels." "No...")

Hmmm, maybe the wheels disappear down a transdimensional hyper-space duct when
their owners die, to be reborn on the other side of creation as embryonic
bearings.

Forgive me, it's been a long morning!

Cindy in Alabama,
Where the torrential downpoars of the past month (now seemingly
over with, thank goodness) have washed the sand out of the brick walk
*again* (I should have known better than to use sand on any kind of a slope!)

***********************************************************
Cindy T. Riley (RoseHawke)
sjones@zebra.net
http://www.zebra.net/~sjones/rosehawke
***********************************************************

Tom Wirt on thu 15 jul 99

Cindy....Yes they do more or less last forever. And they hold their value
well because of that and because there's a good market for them.

Unsolicited advice is, buy a new one. There won't be that much difference
in price and you can always sell it if you decide you don't need it. Also,
get as big a wheel (horsepower) as you can afford. If you stick with pots,
you'll need it later.

For used, the best way to find them is mention it to everyone you meet.
There are myriads of wheels stashed in basements waiting for that day when
get around to it.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
Subject: A Good Used Wheel is Hard to Find!


> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I was wondering, as I came up from the studio, why the deuce is a used
wheel so
> hard to find??? Do potters keep them forever, and ever, amen; will them to

Tom Fallon on fri 16 jul 99

Cindy,
If you're not in immediate need of a wheel, I urge you to keep looking. I
bought my Brent four years ago for a fraction of a new wheel price! The new
wheels are worth their seemingly hefty price tag since they virtually last
forever!

Regards,

Tom (my friends call me Boz)

M. Giles on fri 16 jul 99

Cindy--
Yes. Rarely will you find a potter who will admit they will never use
that wheel again--my mom has not thrown regularly in twenty years, and not
at all in 15 or so, but she won't give up her shimpo no matter how many
times my dad threatens to trash it. I got the kiln, tools, chemicals etc.,
but the wheel is still waiting for her.

Kristen

(who has 2 wheels, two kilns, slab roller and lots of etc..s in storage
because she IS going to find an affordable studio space someday)
-----Original Message-----
From: RoseHawke
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 8:26 AM
Subject: A Good Used Wheel is Hard to Find!


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was wondering, as I came up from the studio, why the deuce is a used
wheel so
>hard to find??? Do potters keep them forever, and ever, amen; will them to
their
>descendants, "Bless you and use this wheel as I did," use them 'til they
fall
>apart and are good for nothing but the trash and the scrap metal man or
what?
>
>I love the clay, and I'm handbuilding/sculpting but I've always been an
>immediate kind of person and I dearly want a wheel to "fill in the time"
and
>produce something in a fraction of an hour instead of many hours or
sometimes
>days. Also to help fill the kiln. It takes such a long time for me to get
enough
>for a kiln load. But anything over about a couple of hundred bucks is out
of
>the question right now. I can probably build a kickwheel (continental
style, the
>simplest) but as I would also be "learning by doing" I'm not sure if I need
the
>added problem of trying to control a wheel while I teach myself to throw.
>
>One haunts the classified. And searches the internet ("6 wheels for sale!
School
>closing!" "Based in New York!" ) And tries the suggested
routes
>("No, we don't have nuthin' like that." "No, sorry, we've never taught
throwing
>classes so we don't have any wheels." "No...")
>
>Hmmm, maybe the wheels disappear down a transdimensional hyper-space duct
when
>their owners die, to be reborn on the other side of creation as embryonic
>bearings.
>
>Forgive me, it's been a long morning!
>
>Cindy in Alabama,
>Where the torrential downpoars of the past month (now seemingly
>over with, thank goodness) have washed the sand out of the brick walk
>*again* (I should have known better than to use sand on any kind of a
slope!)
>
>***********************************************************
>Cindy T. Riley (RoseHawke)
>sjones@zebra.net
>http://www.zebra.net/~sjones/rosehawke
>***********************************************************
>

Earl Brunner on fri 16 jul 99

Using a Brent wheel as an example, (there are many others that are fine wheels)
I do not use the list price as the comparison price I use the offered discount
price from someone like Bennett's or Kickwheel pottery in CM for comparison.
You should be able to get a good used Brent C, or CXC in the $300.00 to 600.00
range. I had a student not long ago that had health problems, had purchased a
CXC Three or Four years ago and claimed that it had less than 20 hours of use
and he wanted to sell it. Unfortunately, he had paid list for it and his
reasoning was that since the prices had gone up on new ones he should be able to
get basically what he paid for it. Since that was in the $1000.00 range I
pointed out to him that for about $850.00 including shipping I could get a new
one with warranty, (nearly new or not his warranty had expired). A used wheel,
depending on how old should be in the 50-70% range of the cheapest place you can
get a new one, maybe less. Tom is right, anymore than that and I would spring
for a new one. Don't let your need or want overcome your good judgement

Tom Wirt wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Cindy....Yes they do more or less last forever. And they hold their value
> well because of that and because there's a good market for them.
>
> Unsolicited advice is, buy a new one. There won't be that much difference
> in price and you can always sell it if you decide you don't need it. Also,
> get as big a wheel (horsepower) as you can afford. If you stick with pots,
> you'll need it later.
>
> For used, the best way to find them is mention it to everyone you meet.
> There are myriads of wheels stashed in basements waiting for that day when
> get around to it.
>
> Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: A Good Used Wheel is Hard to Find!
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > I was wondering, as I came up from the studio, why the deuce is a used
> wheel so
> > hard to find??? Do potters keep them forever, and ever, amen; will them to

--
Earl Brunner
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